So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?

[TexasCowboy]

Well clearly you don't have it straight. She wasn't even the defense lawyer in the case cited.

Clearly it's irrelevant Clinton is who the global elite want and it's who they'll get come November

[Countertrey]

Chump just announced he will not be releasing his tax returns, which is not surprising since it's clear he's hiding something but the timing is odd since the DNC can now make a major case of it.

NO candidate is obligated to release his or her tax returns. However, if it's that important to you, perhaps, if Clinton releases her medical records, or, perhaps, Obama releases his high school and college transcripts, you could shame Trump into a release in kind...

I won't hold my breath, but... folks who live in glass houses... yada...

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Chump just announced he will not be releasing his tax returns, which is not surprising since it's clear he's hiding something but the timing is odd since the DNC can now make a major case of it.

NO candidate is obligated to release his or her tax returns. However, if it's that important to you, perhaps, if Clinton releases her medical records, or, perhaps, Obama releases his high school and college transcripts, you could shame Trump into a release in kind...

I won't hold my breath, but... folks who live in glass houses... yada...

It's important because Trump's only credential for the Office of President is his business acumen, or lack thereof. He has absolutely nothing else upon which to run, no political experience, no military experience, no actual knowledge or understanding of domestic or foreign policy or even of how government functions.

[Countertrey]

Chump just announced he will not be releasing his tax returns, which is not surprising since it's clear he's hiding something but the timing is odd since the DNC can now make a major case of it.

NO candidate is obligated to release his or her tax returns. However, if it's that important to you, perhaps, if Clinton releases her medical records, or, perhaps, Obama releases his high school and college transcripts, you could shame Trump into a release in kind...

I won't hold my breath, but... folks who live in glass houses... yada...

It's important because Trump's only credential for the Office of President is his business acumen, or lack thereof. He has absolutely nothing else upon which to run, no political experience, no military experience, no actual knowledge or understanding of domestic or foreign policy or even of how government functions.

there are indications that Hillary's "experience" demonstrates her clear incompetence. I invited folks to provide a list of her successes... crickets... LOUD crickets.

btw... just wondering if ducking sniper fire in Bosnia counts as military experience... oh... wait...

[TexasCowboy]

http://correctrecord.org/the-points/attack-right-wing-ignores-hillary-clintons-achievements-as-senator/

just a short list all though she has had lots of failures

[Countertrey]

http://correctrecord.org/the-points/attack-right-wing-ignores-hillary-clintons-achievements-as-senator/

just a short list all though she has had lots of failures

I see lots of committee memberships, and a couple of "supported this" and "participated in that"... No successes. A lot of activities that you might think was part of the resume of a follower.

This suggests one of two possibilities.
1 She is a follower. Period... or,
2 Her Senate career was one of avoiding the risk of creating a record.

Where are her SecState successes? She is running on that credential... where are the successes? You know... like the Russian Re-set

[TexasCowboy]

I see lots of committee memberships, and a couple of "supported this" and "participated in that"... No successes. A lot of activities that you might think was part of the resume of a follower.

This suggests one of two possibilities.
1 She is a follower. Period... or,
2 Her Senate career was one of avoiding the risk of creating a record.

Where are her SecState successes? She is running on that credential... where are the successes? You know... like the Russian Re-set

I wouldn't say it's not a success if you can get Rebloodlicans to vote in favor
for whatever it is you are trying to get passed, but it takes lot of greasing
and betrayel when it comes time to pay the piper and the Bloods are looking
to cash in on the favor

as for her "success" as secretary of state? there is none she really didn't
negotiate peace deals with any foreign hostile country, She spent her time
shining her seat with her ass but that isn't the half of it

Hillary is part of the global elite she's been spotted at Bildaberg meetings
her days at Yale University were spent as a member of the Skull and Bones
society which selects our elected officials so all around she's not very good
for the country but because the Elite get what they want...Hillary wins the
election in November no matter what Trump says or does

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Hillary was successful at creating united healthcare for our youth as first lady.

Trumps amazing business career was not only handed to him by his father, but is laced with fraud and injustices to the working class. Funny how esteemed a businessman he is considered, yet he's filled for bankruptcy how many times? Screwed over how many contractors?

The real tragedy is that we the people have allowed our two nominees to be these two vile humans. Truly is "who's the lesser evil".

I hope the independent parties get their isht together and get Johnson into the light more, and on the stage for the big debates to come. Being a New Mexico native, hed have my vote if it wasn't a waste of a vote

[Countertrey]

Hillary was successful at creating united healthcare for our youth as first lady.

A bipartisan effort that she had next to nothing to do with. Her focus was on a single payor national health plan... which was a miserable failure.

Trumps amazing business career was not only handed to him by his father, but is laced with fraud and injustices to the working class. Funny how esteemed a businessman he is considered, yet he's filled for bankruptcy how many times? Screwed over how many contractors?

Bankruptcy is only a problem if it is not learned from. Dozens of very successful business folk have failed... some multiple times... during the course of making their millions. The FACT is, bankruptcy is more often than not, the result of taking risks... and NO ONE gets rich without taking risks. The fact that he has recovered... quite nicely... from those episodes says much more than the fact that they happened. The loss to contractors??? Guess what? They take risks too.

The real tragedy is that we the people have allowed our two nominees to be these two vile humans. Truly is "who's the lesser evil".

partly true. Hillary's history, however, tells us much more about her evil, than Trump's does. Until he ran for office, he was a darling of the Democrats... funny how things change.

I hope the independent parties get their isht together and get Johnson into the light more, and on the stage for the big debates to come. Being a New Mexico native, hed have my vote if it wasn't a waste of a vote

Maybe... but I am a libertarian with a small l. The ones running for the White House with capital L's are just more career politicians. The experience with Bernie... a "dedicated" socialist whom was clearly bought off, and is, apparently, "socialist" only when it is applied to others... should be proof enough that no career pol can be trusted.

[Deadskins]

Trumps amazing business career was not only handed to him by his father, but is laced with fraud and injustices to the working class. Funny how esteemed a businessman he is considered, yet he's filled for bankruptcy how many times? Screwed over how many contractors?

Bankruptcy is only a problem if it is not learned from. Dozens of very successful business folk have failed... some multiple times... during the course of making their millions. The FACT is, bankruptcy is more often than not, the result of taking risks... and NO ONE gets rich without taking risks. The fact that he has recovered... quite nicely... from those episodes says much more than the fact that they happened. The loss to contractors??? Guess what? They take risks too.

Please! Have you ever heard of a casino that lost money? No risk there. Those bankruptcies were purely profit-taking opportunities. Contractors taking a job like that would have no reason to think that they were taking a risk. The only risk was that Trump wouldn't screw them over. I can't believe ~40% of voters (if the polls are correct) are willing to take that same risk.

[SkinsJock]

admittedly, Trump may be a 'risky' choice - Clinton is a much bigger mistake - GUARANTEED

[Countertrey]

Please! Have you ever heard of a casino that lost money? No risk there. Those bankruptcies were purely profit-taking opportunities. Contractors taking a job like that would have no reason to think that they were taking a risk. The only risk was that Trump wouldn't screw them over. I can't believe ~40% of voters (if the polls are correct) are willing to take that same risk.

PLEASE! Let's start with the largest casino and gambling interest in the world... Ceasars... and go from there, shall we? There have been multiple casino bankruptcy in Atlantic City alone...

[welch]

Please! Have you ever heard of a casino that lost money? No risk there. Those bankruptcies were purely profit-taking opportunities. Contractors taking a job like that would have no reason to think that they were taking a risk. The only risk was that Trump wouldn't screw them over. I can't believe ~40% of voters (if the polls are correct) are willing to take that same risk.

PLEASE! Let's start with the largest casino and gambling interest in the world... Ceasars... and go from there, shall we? There have been multiple casino bankruptcy in Atlantic City alone...

I want to duck out of this discussion after:

- Have seen Donald Trump in business since about 1980

- In the early '90s, he built his second or third casino / hotel in Atlantic City. The gambling business there was sinking. It's not clear why he decided to invest even more when the experts were pulling out. His company went bankrupt.

- About the same time he was losing money in Atlantic City, Trump bought the Eastern Airlines Shuttle. No idea why. It went bankrupt also.

- After the bankruptcies, European banks wanted to take everything Trump had. The US banks -- mostly New York Banks -- decided to give him a way out. US banks stood to lose more than the European banks. I had a colleague from GE UK who went bananas about Trump's sloppy business methods and the American banks. I had not paid attention to Trump before that.

- Beginning about 1995, banks refused to lend Trump enough money to build large projects. They have been careful.

- There are luxury apartment buildings around New York with Trump's name on them. Many were built by other people and belong to other people. Best I can understand, Trump rents his name to the owners. That looks to be his main business now. Trump is richer than any of us, but he is nothing like the CEO of GE or of Apple or of Amazon...or or any mega-corporation. It appears that the Lerner family, owners of the Nationals, have quietly built an enormous real-estate empire. "Old Man Lerner" cautiously built malls and such around the Washington suburbs, for a start. Trump was more reckless until it all collapsed.