How the NO Stars can win a super bowl LI rotflmao

[TexasCowboy]

You are putting the cart before the horse.

In your world a WR can grab a ball while airborne and horizontal, have an elbow hit, and now the play is over. Unfortunately for you and Dez, that's not the rule.

It's the whole essence of the rule you are ignoring. It says that a guy can't simply get a non-hand down and get away with the ball popping out. He's gotta maintain control all the way through impact - not just until a non-hand hits.

It's really that simple.

so because the Warren commission explains it away it's
immediately perceived as truth? talk about gullible and
manipulated, There BS explanation will never make any
sense but the fact GB tanked the following week and
then Denver took a nosedive in the super bowl tells me
the powers that be wanted the Underdog/Cinderella
scenario to play out and it took a screw job to get
what they wanted

[DarthMonk]

You are putting the cart before the horse.

In your world a WR can grab a ball while airborne and horizontal, have an elbow hit, and now the play is over. Unfortunately for you and Dez, that's not the rule.

It's the whole essence of the rule you are ignoring. It says that a guy can't simply get a non-hand down and get away with the ball popping out. He's gotta maintain control all the way through impact - not just until a non-hand hits.

It's really that simple.

so because the Warren commission explains it away it's
immediately perceived as truth? talk about gullible and
manipulated, There BS explanation will never make any
sense but the fact GB tanked the following week and
then Denver took a nosedive in the super bowl tells me
the powers that be wanted the Underdog/Cinderella
scenario to play out and it took a screw job to get
what they wanted

Good lord.

[TexasCowboy]

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Yes, especially when the truth is the pass was incomplete and ruled as such.

[TexasCowboy]

Yes, especially when the truth is the pass was incomplete and ruled as such.

Let's see?? 9/11 - lie, Oswald shot and killed Kennedy? - lie, Iraq had weapons of mass destruction - lie,
Viet kong fired on American war ships in the Gulf of Tonkin - lie, NFL alters rules and is corrupt to the
point where games benefit the rich and powerful? l - NO truth and that is what this all about...the NFL
may have pulled the wool over your eyes but not this guy so you keep right on thinking they're right
just shows how gullible and brainwashed you really are

[DarthMonk]

You are putting the cart before the horse.

In your world a WR can grab a ball while airborne and horizontal, have an elbow hit, and now the play is over. Unfortunately for you and Dez, that's not the rule.

It's the whole essence of the rule you are ignoring. It says that a guy can't simply get a non-hand down and get away with the ball popping out. He's gotta maintain control all the way through impact - not just until a non-hand hits.

It's really that simple.

[TexasCowboy]

Once again just like your theory/aka their story it's just not true

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Once again just like your theory/aka their story it's just not true

And once again, in yet another thread you've intentionally devolved into this discussion, you're ignoring the fact the pass was ruled incomplete which makes any other arguments moot.

Also, the pass was, in fact, incomplete. The rule is that the receiver has to maintain possession until the play is dead. If the receiver is not ruled down by contact he must maintain possession throughout the entire play until the whistle blows.

That means he must have possession when the whistle blows.

Instead of posting photos which don't prove or disprove anything find a video which includes when they play was blown dead.

Then you will have your answer and you can stop arguing a non-issue.

But I expect you won't do that because then you'd have nothing to complain about.

[TexasCowboy]

Don't you just love the accusations that are totally untrue? I've ignored nothing when it comes
to this subject, ALL factors have been carefully weighed and what this all comes down to? Is
outright tampering of a rule that never needed to be fixed!! So that insider gambling on the
games can continue without serious consequences, Pete Rose is barred from Baseball immortality
for illegal gambling, Yet the NFL is allowed to get away with rigging games? The side judge rules
complete..the head ref overturns the call says incomplete, 1 knee, 1 elbow striking the turf at the
same time makes him down due to the fact, that once he strikes the turf he has completed the
entire process of catching the ball...The liars however want you to believe, He failed to take 2
steps - untrue, took close to 3, can't switch hands, when in fact he can, The play never ended
since he went onto his back and appears to have lost the ball - semi true, keeping in mind that
it's not required for him to attempt to continue, Since players are not always in that position
and even if he throws it out of bounds we go back to the fact he's already down anyways

Folks they may think they can squeeze in inch on me GSGT - Hartman but they aren't
which brings me to this last and important part - The only reason they are celebrating
this? Is b/c they hate Dallas and it brings "misery" to anyone who dares to contradict
the NFL's findings which they believe in 100%

Remember in their eyes - Bin Laden orchestrated 9/11, Oswald killed Kennedy,
Saddam was part of the access of Evil, The Holocaust and Sandy Hook were all
hoaxes and the NFL called this 1 right

I rest my case

[TexasCowboy]

In case you missed the message/point to the initial sarcasm - the government, media and the NFL
doesn't lie to me - the end

[DarthMonk]

The usual drivel

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

The usual drivel

Yup. I'm convinced it's a bot. No human would repeat the same actions with an expectation of different results. That would be insanity defined.

[TexasCowboy]

What I am is what you'll never be...A free thinker who never trusts what anyone says including
corrupt sports such as the NFL, therefore I can't be a bot if I am free thinker because bots are
programmed by designers who give it their artificial intelligence - which leaves you, Monk and
the remaining jokers around here...Who I am convinced are programmed to respond in the
stereotypical way A programmer would want you to respond

they program the lie - You respond with the same lie and you may even evolve to new level
of programming where, You manage to add in some new and interesting lies on your own and
it certainly impresses your programmers Full Metal Jacket quote - grown beyond their control
but in the end it's a joke that you even call yourselves "fans" who understand football when in
fact you know nothing at all

[DarthMonk]

What I am is what you'll never be...A free thinker ...

[TexasCowboy]

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[DarthMonk]

The usual drivel

The pass is incomplete, as the receiver went to the ground in the process of making the catch and did not maintain possession of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground.

WR grabbed ball ? Check.

WR got two feet down in bounds ? Check.

WR started going to ground during this time ? Check.

WR went all the way to ground ? Check.

WR maintained possession of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground ? Oops. Nope. Bummer.

But wait. The DB made contact during the process so the WR is down by contact and all else is moot - right ?

Oops. Nope. Bummer.

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball.

The pass is incomplete, as the receiver went to the ground in the process of making the catch and did not maintain possession of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground.

Relevant example from case book predating the Dez non-catch:

GOING TO THE GROUND—INCOMPLETE PASS
First-and-10-on B25. A1 throws a pass to A2 who controls the ball and gets one foot down before he is contacted by B1. The
contact by B1 sends him across the goal line and to the ground in the end zone. The ball comes out as he hits the ground.
Ruling: Second-and-10 on B25. The pass is incomplete, as the receiver went to the ground in the process of making the
catch and did not maintain possession of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground.

Insults and/or rehashed non-argument to follow.

[TexasCowboy]

He was already considered down and the play ended before he ever
manages to cross the goal line...point 1 ignored, point 2 ignored,
The pilon and his arm obscure proof the ball actually touches the
ground as it has been falsely claimed...however just before this
takes place, The ball is still in the air (in his arm) and it can be
argued that the initial movement was caused by him striking the
ground after the fact having never touched the ground


see ignored point 1, Ignored point 3, Montreal screw job - I
expect a low life scum bag like Vincent Kennedy Mcmahon to
pull something so low and dirty, but the NFL? You're supposed
to be better than that..but I guessed wrong...Rule altered, then
re altered for 2016, I guess somethings are worth hiding if you
are Roger Goodell and the NFL owners, after all corruption needs
it's bad guys and their secret identities right? Ignored point 4, the
Good, the Bad, The gullible

As fun as this has been it can't end without all the rest of the
members here at Thehogs.net...who attempt to claim they think
for themselves, However their stereotypical responses are indicative
of the mass brainwashing and debunking of anything that refutes the
NFL's "official findings" and so they turn any valid argument against
make it appear as though the "person" or persons, Are crazy, or is a
bot...falsely claiming there is ignoring going on when in fact the only
ignoring going on is what is being said in refute

So here's what they can't ignore - their hatred for Dallas it boils their
blood and blinds their judgement...Detroit the week before had a truck
load of "haters" on board, 31 in fact (including the Lions fan base) who
all wanted to see Dallas tank...and felt slighted when there was no PI
call on what was mutual contact and the referee allowed the play to
continue...Dallas wins, The following week Detroit and the remaining
"haters" on board all dawned GB jersey's cheering the Packers on what
would appear to be an easy win since Dallas after all played like crap
anyways...then it got interesting, The "haters" got nervous Dallas had
a real shot ending it and it came down to 1 final play do or die! Bryant
came down down with the ball side judge rules it complete, Head ref
wants to take it under the hood...Incomplete GB takes over 1st and 10
a circle jerk ensues and now we have this topic about a botched call
that is proven to be wrong....Now let's end it here, GB and the NFL
got their screwjob call and the Packers blew a lead in Seattle the
next week as Seattle won the super bowl that year

I guess what goes around comes around and in case if you are
wondering? NO this does not admit that I agree with any idiot
here or in the NFL about what transpired that day

the end

[DarthMonk]

He was already considered down and the play ended before he ever
manages to cross the goal line

Down? No. Play ended? Yes. Incomplete pass.

...point 1 ignored, point 2 ignored,

The pilon and his arm obscure proof the ball actually touches the
ground as it has been falsely claimed

Not at all. Everyone but you sees it hit the ground after clearing the pylon. It's why the ball rockets upward and out of control.

...however just before this
takes place, The ball is still in the air (in his arm) and it can be
argued that the initial movement was caused by him striking the
ground

Exactly ... whence the pass is incomplete.

after the fact having never touched the ground

Everyone but you sees it hit the ground.

see ignored point 1, Ignored point 3, Montreal screw job - I
expect a low life scum bag like Vincent Kennedy Mcmahon to
pull something so low and dirty, but the NFL? You're supposed
to be better than that..but I guessed wrong...Rule altered, then
re altered for 2016, I guess somethings are worth hiding if you
are Roger Goodell and the NFL owners, after all corruption needs
it's bad guys and their secret identities right? Ignored point 4, the
Good, the Bad, The gullible

... the chronic ironic.

As fun as this has been it can't end without all the rest of the
members here at Thehogs.net...who attempt to claim they think
for themselves, However their stereotypical responses are indicative
of the mass brainwashing and debunking of anything that refutes the
NFL's "official findings" and so they turn any valid argument against
make it appear as though the "person" or persons, Are crazy, or is a
bot...falsely claiming there is ignoring going on when in fact the only
ignoring going on is what is being said in refute

^^^ talk about a stereotypical response indicative
of the mass brainwashing - good lord.

So here's what they can't ignore - their hatred for Dallas it boils their
blood and blinds their judgement...Detroit the week before had a truck
load of "haters" on board, 31 in fact (including the Lions fan base) who
all wanted to see Dallas tank...and felt slighted when there was no PI
call on what was mutual contact and the referee allowed the play to
continue...Dallas wins, The following week Detroit and the remaining
"haters" on board all dawned GB jersey's cheering the Packers on what
would appear to be an easy win since Dallas after all played like crap
anyways...then it got interesting, The "haters" got nervous Dallas had
a real shot ending it and it came down to 1 final play do or die! Bryant
came down down with the ball side judge rules it complete, Head ref
wants to take it under the hood...Incomplete GB takes over 1st and 10
a circle jerk ensues and now we have this topic about a botched call
that is proven to be wrong....Now let's end it here, GB and the NFL
got their screwjob call and the Packers blew a lead in Seattle the
next week as Seattle won the super bowl that year

I guess what goes around comes around and in case if you are
wondering? NO this does not admit that I agree with any idiot
here or in the NFL about what transpired that day

the end

[TexasCowboy]

What is Down by Contact?

Any ball carrier who is either tackled to the ground by the opposing team, or who falls to the turf on his own and is touched by the opposing team. Certain body parts such as the knee, elbow, hip, and head are considered down by contact. Basically any body part other than hands, fingers, and feet constitue a ball carrier to be declared down.

The ball is dead the instant the runner touches the ground.

Once again these are ignored because the NFL said it never happened
the same way the Warren and 9/11 commission said terrorists and
Oswald carried out the attacks as lone wolves

can you say guilible and brainwashed?

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Funny thing is: it's ONLY dullass fans (not even most of them) that can't seem to grasp reality; and worse argue about conspiracy theories.

The ball hits the ground. Fez looses control. The ball at one point is completely out of his hands. Thus, it is NOT a catch.

Had he merely bobbled it, lost control, out of hands, but never touched the ground... it's a catch.

OR, had it touched the ground but did not move, er bobble, er come completely out of his hands in this case- it's a catch.

THE FACT that it touched and he lost control, seems it incomplete.

Furthermore, gtfo-ver it. You can't blame a decade of incompetence, poor coaching, worst owner, team of divas whom are among the worst people in the NFL- on a botched catch. Cry about the botched FG hold by Ohno if you're going to cry about past blunders and epic fails... See dropped it.

Case closed.

[TexasCowboy]

Lmao I never mentioned anything about a conspiracy and all of a sudden we have a conspiracy
theory on our hands....Thus the icing on the cake to end this discussion, Well know corruption
(legal) yet illegal game fixing taking place in the NFL, bad/wrong calls constantly made during
games video proof of this presented..but in this case the NFL got it right and we're supposed
to believe it?

thanks for the icing but the cake still tastes like *sh$t*

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Dawg... that's the dumbest interpretation of my post as is humanly possible. Thanks for the laughs!

Fyi- tissue is on sale at Costco... although, me thinks even a palette of 200 cases will fall short for the long nights you have in store.

See ya on dullass week- or bully beat down as it'll be described.. Skins Torch Pukes vs 2.0 a second coming of the last time we met. Can't wait!

[TexasCowboy]

Dawg? this isn't the ghetto and quite honestly your response reeks of the usual banter



The NFL doesn't lie, your just making this up because the call went against you...even if it had been
called the right way, I'd have questioned the NFL because of the fact they are corrupt and fixing of
games is an outright travesty and disgrace that apparently has no shame just as long as? those who
are gambling away their money receive a 10 fold payout in return

[Deadskins]

Lmao I never mentioned anything about a conspiracy and all of a sudden we have a conspiracy
theory on our hands....

Nope, never.

Let's see?? 9/11 - lie, Oswald shot and killed Kennedy? - lie, Iraq had weapons of mass destruction - lie,
Viet kong fired on American war ships in the Gulf of Tonkin - lie, NFL alters rules and is corrupt to the
point where games benefit the rich and powerful?

[TexasCowboy]

The fact the NFL is corrupt is a well known fact (NO conspiracy) You, yourself Monk
agreed the NFL is corrupted now all of a sudden your reversing course? proclaiming
that the great and glorious NFL does no wrong, talk about see no evil, speak no evil
hear no evil...