Chris Luva Luva wrote:Please show me where the quoted post factually or constructively disproved anything. Additionally, find one post in this entire thread that belongs to me where I didn't provide constructive and sincere discussion. Thanks.
As far as the first sentence, last post down on pg. 8 of this thread. As with anything, it's open to interpretation but since I consider you a respectable poster, I'd like to see your take on it. You may have missed it since it was the last post on the page and those tend to get ignored.
As far as your second sentence, I never said you didn't provide constructive and/or sincere discussion and wouldn't since I believe you do provide constructive and sincere discussion.
Also --- I wasn't trying to save anyone. Riggo can handle himself. I was more interested in your take on my reply. It had nothing to do with Riggo in any way, shape, or form. Assumptions Assumptions........
Chris Luva Luva wrote:You have, and your reply didn't offend me. I simply quipped back because I was quoted in your response and I ASSumed you were talking to me.
Additionally, the message you just quoted was for Mark who rode in on his white horse to save you.
Fine, fine. I give up.
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Chris Luva Luva wrote:I've been sending 98% of my extreme displeasure for Jay Gruden to Jake via SMS... However, in lieu of yesterdays **** show... I figured that I'd share.
- Can someone tell me what this man has accomplished since coming here? - Can someone give me one or two example of Jay Gruden showing good coaching attributes? - The best thing that I can say is that his time management isn't AS bad this year. - And don't feed me a bunch of BS that he needs time to grow. This is the NFL, you're either an NFL HC or not at this point. He's 2 years in. - This offensive guru hasn't improved the offense at all... It's actually regressed. The running game is worse, it's down right horrific. They average 1.8 YPC on MNF, if I'm not mistaken. The QB position is simply better by default, because we have a guy back there that can AT LEAST decipher a defense. - Darrell Young... Where'd he go? One of the best FB's in the league. One of the best FOOTBALL PLAYERS on this team. Yet the Guru, the Mastermind Jay Gruden can't find work for him. - He was brought in to revive RGIII? Failed miserably and arguably didn't really even try. Granted RGIII is largely responsible for this.
I'm all for continuity but not for the sake of just doing it. There has to be some glimmer of hope/progress. IMO, I can't trace back too much of our progress to Jay or McVay specifically. I can trace it back to this years draft. I can trace if back to our FA acquisitions. Obviously, those things lead back to Scot Mccloughan. And I don't think it to be a coincidence that the hammer was brought down on RGIII after his arrival. Jay didn't have the authority to do it, hell... Jay was forced to name RGIII the starter in Feb.
So again? What has Jay Gruden improved/accomplished since coming here?
back to the OP - I was particularly mad about how we played against the pukes - and especially how we kept running plays that were not working
as I've posted before - Jay Gruden has not lived up to expectations - especially with regards to the QB play here and the offense in general
I'm not sure that Scot has anyone in mind to come in here but if so, it can't hurt to make a change - who knows, he might even pick things up a bit around here - I have more faith in a HC of Scot's choosing than I do in one that Dan Snyder brought in
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Interesting take from Keim on the run game and why they stick with it. Seems a little more thoughtful than just "Gruden calls bad plays".
If their running game keeps struggling, why stay committed to it?
The Redskins have done so for one big reason: It sets up a lot of what they like to do with quarterback Kirk Cousins. Namely, play-action and bootlegs. In games in which the bootlegs have worked, the Redskins weren’t running the ball great but they were committed to it, so the defense had to honor the fakes. They can definitely use the quick pass game, designed to pick up five yards and serve as a de facto handoff. And that can put them in favorable situations. Also, the talent at receiver clearly makes that a good option. The problem is, the run game won’t ever be consistent this season, not with a line and tight end group that remains inconsistent in run blocking. Injuries are definitely a part of the problem, but the result is inconsistency. Still, they’ll remain committed – unless they’re consistently getting stuffed for no-gains or one or two yards on first down. They’re not as one-sided as you think on first downs (188 runs out of 355 plays). Nor should they be; staying committed to the run doesn’t mean putting yourself in constant holes.
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I think C'trey and I have been amongst the strongest supporters of "the run game" here - I agree with that piece by Keim, but, there were some strange calls in the Dallas game that pissed me off ...
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
How cool would it be to get a home field playoff game and have Kirk Cousins get tired of running an offense that's not working and call some audibles at the line and we go on to win a playoff game against the Seahawks with Matt Jones running in a 75 yard screen pass for a TD after changing out from the run play that was called ....
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Please show me where the quoted post factually or constructively disproved anything. Additionally, find one post in this entire thread that belongs to me where I didn't provide constructive and sincere discussion. Thanks.
As far as the first sentence, last post down on pg. 8 of this thread. As with anything, it's open to interpretation but since I consider you a respectable poster, I'd like to see your take on it. You may have missed it since it was the last post on the page and those tend to get ignored.
As far as your second sentence, I never said you didn't provide constructive and/or sincere discussion and wouldn't since I believe you do provide constructive and sincere discussion.
Also --- I wasn't trying to save anyone. Riggo can handle himself. I was more interested in your take on my reply. It had nothing to do with Riggo in any way, shape, or form. Assumptions Assumptions........
BUELLER???
BUELLER???
BUELLER???
No response? Come on. I expect that from others here, but not you.
- Can someone tell me what this man has accomplished since coming here? - Can someone give me one or two example of Jay Gruden showing good coaching attributes?
1. A winning season 2. NFC East Championship 3. Smooth transition to post RGIII era with no quarterback controversy 4. Developed Cousins into a good quarterback 5. Five more victories than last year 6. Little or no off the field drama 7. All of the above in spite of Snyder's ownership
Sorry, but I could not resists resurrecting this old post.
Chris Luva Luva wrote:He's fixed a lot of my gripes ... I'm happy to say that he's answered a lot of my concerns.
I'd agree with that - at the beginning of this season I felt that Kirk Cousins and Jay Gruden needed to take advantage of their opportunity ...
Kirk Cousins has had an amazing season and has set himself up to get a huge payday which is fantastic for both he and the franchise
Jay Gruden has done well enough that he should definitely be back here for another season ... at least
The NFC East was one of the worst in the NFL but that does not diminish what has happened here - the Washington Redskins have clearly made incredible progress in fixing the mess Dan Snyder is responsible for - while Scot McCloughan & the FO have done great, Jay Gruden & his coaching staff showed what can happen when players buy into & accept responsibility for their actions on both the practice field & on Sundays
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
- Can someone tell me what this man has accomplished since coming here? - Can someone give me one or two example of Jay Gruden showing good coaching attributes?
1. A winning season 2. NFC East Championship 3. Smooth transition to post RGIII era with no quarterback controversy 4. Developed Cousins into a good quarterback 5. Five more victories than last year 6. Little or no off the field drama 7. All of the above in spite of Snyder's ownership
Sorry, but I could not resists resurrecting this old post.
Hail to the Redskins. Hail to Coach Gruden.
Item 4 is not what we expected at the beginning of the season but we have to give Gruden credit - He identified and helped develop the Redskins starting QB and that was one of the reasons he was hired. Again, not what we expected but he did what had to be done.
I think there's still a lot to learn about Gruden and how far he can go as a coach. You have to admit though that winning a home playoff game this year would be a HUGE accomplishment. Get it done, Jay!!!
Also I know that people want to give most of the credit to McCloughan - he deserves a lot no doubt about it. But its completely wrong to diminish what Gruden has done this year. His week to week focus on games has really paid off for this team. Obviously the QB decision was the biggest coaching move. And looking at how the offense is trending, it seems laughable to look back at the suggestions that he doesn't know how to coach offense.
Thought this comment from Korey Lichtensteiger two days ago was most telling:
“The proof’s in the pudding now,” center Kory Lichtensteiger said. “We’re playoff dancing because of [Cousin]. [At the time of the decision], it was good to see that there’s repercussions and rewards; repercussions for not playing well and rewards for doing the right thing: preparing, performing in practice and the preseason. It was just good to know that you get rewarded for hard work and performing.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/r ... story.html
No doubt he's talking about Cousins/Griffin there, but that's been true of every position on the team this year. Guys have really had to earn their positions on the team. That has to be good for competition and morale on the team.
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I agree. I also think playcalling has been a lot better since that Dallas loss. What I'm coming around to is that Gruden, McVay (who has been the primary playcaller) and Cousins have all grown during that time. We really have a positive future here.