Chris Luva Luva wrote:DeSean is not mediocre and is the best deep threat in the league.
Garcon is not mediocre.
Jordan Reed is not mediocre, arguably a top 3 TE in the league right now. Prolly top 5.
Alfred Morris was a top 5 RB before Gruden came along.
Darrel Young a Pro Bowl FB before Gruden came along.
Crowder is not mediocre.
Trent Williams probowl LT.
How can you say this is mediocre when Gruden REFUSES to field the best 11 players? He'd rather stick to his "scheme" than player his best people. Our ProBowl FB is stuck on special teams. I simply believe that a better coach, with a better offensive scheme would make more of this offensive talent. It isn't that I simply dont think Gruden is great. He isn't great and he hasn't really done anything THAT great in the entirety of his NFL career. He was an above average OC... Terrific.
We've watched New England play every offensive linemen out of position for the duration of the year. Yet, their coaches adapt their offensive philosophy to each individual game. Gruden has shown an inability or an unwillingness to do so. And it's cost us wins.
Our DC has done more with lesser known players than Gruden has.
A couple things:
1. Direct answer to the player comparisons:
- Jackson is good, but has only played 6 games this year with a hamstring injury. He also basically lost us the DAL game (having nothing to do with coaching), so there's that.....
- Garcon is playing mediocre right now and on the downswing. A good example is his YAC stats:
2015: 153 YAC on 59 receptions (121st in the NFL)
2014: 293 on 68 (56th)
2013: 667 on 113 (3rd)
2012: 325 on 44 (40th but only played 9 games).
He is average. Not more, not less.
- Agree on Reed.
- Morris was a stud and I love him, but for some reason he isn't playing well. I agree that playcalling is MUCH of the reason but I am starting to believe there is something else; it may be the fact he is 27 and he has had huge carry numbers since he was 18 years old. I also wonder if he is playing hurt and we don't know it.
- Young is great but not a player that will make a huge impact. He's good for his position. For example, yesterday most good players would have scored on the play he was tackled on at the 1. It wasn't a good pass, but he moved in the wrong way and it slowed him down. He also got tackled by a CB, which a 250 pound FB should be able to push 1 or 2 yards against. He's good for the position, but not a player that you "focus" on getting looks. As far as being a pro-bowler --- having a probowl FB is like have a probowl long snapper.
- Crowder has proven to be a good WR. So I agree to an extent. He still has things to improve on.
- Williams is a stud and we try to run thru him the majority of the time. What does that get us? 1 single OL doesn't make even a mediocre OL -- which we don't have.
To me, this doesn't exactly make a convincing argument that we have above average offensive talent..... That said, I absolutely agree we have talent, no question. However, do we have enough where we should be demanding playoff teams or our HC is fired? I don't think so --- especially considering the fact Gruden was the one that made the Cousins decision, in effect putting us in the position we are currently sitting in.
2. And please, lets not compare this squad as it relates to utilizing talent to NE. Gruden is no Belicheck and never will be. We can all agree on that.
3. So you like our DC? Do you think he'll stay here if we fire Gruden? The same goes for Callahan, Cavanaugh, etc.
4. Final Caveat: I'm not a huge Gruden fan. I think we have progressed in the right direction with him and should allow him to continue as long as he continues to make the proper personnel upgrades and progression continues year over year. When that stops, you have to make a decision at that time, but not before it. He is still a horrible playcaller.
RIP Sean Taylor. You will be missed.