mastdark81 wrote:
1. True but it matters to the degree he have improved because we are trying to win right? He wasn't good last year. He's average to above average at best this year. That's still not good enough in a passing league.
2. I state that because that's what the thread topic originally was about
3. numbers don't lie.
4. And your right that's my point of the opinion thing. You cannot say Kirk is better than even you because you have not played. He's not an established player yet. Who's saying that Colt or Rg3 don't pass for 3 or 4 tds when Kirk passes for 2. Who knows? Just because Gruden says they are the best doesn't mean it remain true. What validity has he proven as a coach to properly evaluate talent 100%? He can't even get over .500. Same guy that tends to think Niles Paul is a blocking TE lol.
If Kirk was playing at a pro bowl level prior to this year you can somewhat assume he is the best option...but all 3 quarterbacks have not been playoff caliber qb's in prior years. If you go last year once again...Kirk won 1 game that he didn't even start. Colt won 2 and Rg3 won 2. Colt has the better QBR since you want to bring up STATS last year...so how can anyone all assume that Kirk is the better guy? Hell Rg3 didn't even play against backups if you want to make preseason an indicator. Is Kirk the most well liked guy? Probably so say it. He is the best guy that YOU want to start, not definitively the best option and for sure he should be bench able if he is not playing well.
Go read the papers...no one was edging anyone out in OTA's and Training Camp THIS YEAR. Ask Keim and the boys. Preseason came and Jay anointed HIS QB...and that's fine. Everybody has their "guy" but it is not like Kirk earned it from a fans perspective to see him earn it. We haven't seen Colt nor Rg3 in year 2 of Jay's season with qb coach. Rg3 may continue to look choppy or Colt inconsistent but the game is about more than just looking good and trying not to lose... it is about making plays and helping your team win. Intangibles that the great quarterbacks have that I have not seen from ANY of our quarterbacks recently.
I would take an above average passer any day of the week --- especially since we haven't had one since Brad Johnson nearly 15 years ago (discounting for RGIII's unreal 2012 -- which I consider the best season by any skins QB in my lifetime).
Numbers can lie or at worst be misleading and yours was a good example. We are 25th in offense, but 17th in yards and 21st in scoring. How does that work out?
And I will never buy your "because RGIII or markshark84 hasn't played this year, we don't know if either are better than Cousins" arguement. It doesn't hold up. Over the past 2 seasons (or 21 games), RGIII was statistically the worst (or 2nd/3rd, I forget, but bad enough) starting QB in the entire NFL and had an average QBR in the bottom 3 of eligible QBs for those seasons. The fact Cousins isn't a pro bowler doesn't matter since RGIII was basically a "pro bowler" at sucking in 2013 & 2014. And it didn't appear like he has improved based on his preseason play in 2015. And I shouldn't even get into this but Cousins did play against starters in the preseason vs. the Ravens..... and he didn't go 2-5 for 8 yards and 3 sacks or 4-8 for 36 yards...... Cousins CLEARLY outplayed RGIII against both backups AND starters..... and his regular season performance confirms it when taken against RGIII's preseason performance vs. starters....
So sorry, I am not buying it in any way and I am very confident no one else other than RGIII superfans are either. Sorry, the fact there is a .01% chance that this crazy theory is true, that doesn't make it "uncertain" enough to actually be a consideration. Cousins has PROVEN he is the superior QB, not by the fact Gruden started him, but because he has statistically be superior to RGIII's 2013 & 2014 stats as well as outplaying him in the 2015 season.
And as far as the OTA crap, who gives a dump what the media says. And have you ever played football? And I don't ask that as a snarky comeback; it is only to say this ---- when you do OTAs, preseason stuff, you aren't really trying. You want to stay healthy, get your body & mind ready, go over the plays/understand the playbook, understand how you are going to play with any new guys, etc. Training camp is only a grind for the guys that are looking to make the team; established guys don't work as hard. And for QBs, they don't do crap. No coach will be able to tell that much since the OCs, QB coaches will TELL the QBs who to throw it to because they want everyone to get looks. As a QB (and I was not one), they spend far more time with the coaches, playbook, etc. than competiting. It is literally impossible to judge QBs in OTAs and training camps. IMPOSSIBLE.
Finally, my QB perference is 100% based on relevant play. I was the biggest RGIII fan in the world back in 2012. I also was a huge supporter of his up and until just after midway 2013 --- when I had come to an informed conclusion that he was a "different" QB post-injury. I don't have "a guy" or a preference. I like who looks best on the field --- and that has clearly been Cousins. I felt that way in 2014 and continue to do so at this point. If McCoy or RGIII came in and outplayed him in a consistent manner (say over the span of 4 consecutive games), I'd be the first to say so and move to that player.
You know, I really try to make my posts shorter.
RIP Sean Taylor. You will be missed.
maybe because he's started every game this season ... & because nobody wants to be liable for making a $16M mistake 
