Grab A Snickers - RGIII Is Not Going Anywhere For A While

[oj]

He cost us a spot on the roster, we could have had a kickoff specialist.

[Redskin in Canada]

Forgive me ... just a couple of questions:

What if Cousins throws more interceptions than TDs? What if the team struggles early in the season?

Not useless questions, you understand ...

Do we then have a QB controversy and a three-ring comedy-drama circus?

Only in the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL can issues like this one become the more attractive reason to follow the soap opera named Washington Redskins.

No worries, nor RGIII, nor Jay Gruden will be here in the 2016 season (as predicted a while ago).

My only bet is the following: when will fans begin to become no-show in home games.

My prediction: beginning of November (notwithstanding some individual highlight performances).

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Forgive me ... just one question:

What if Cousins throws more interceptions than TDs? What if the team struggles early in the season?

Not useless questions, you understand ...

Do we then have a QB controversy and a three-ring comedy-drama circus?

Then we admit we have zero quarterbacks and it doesn't matter who plays since none of them will be here next season.

[yupchagee]

Forgive me ... just a couple of questions:

What if Cousins throws more interceptions than TDs? What if the team struggles early in the season?

Not useless questions, you understand ...

Do we then have a QB controversy and a three-ring comedy-drama circus?

Only in the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL can issues like this one become the more attractive reason to follow the soap opera named Washington Redskins.

No worries, nor RGIII, nor Jay Gruden will be here in the 2016 season (as predicted a while ago).

My only bet is the following: when will fans begin to become no-show in home games.

My prediction: beginning of November (notwithstanding some individual highlight performances).

It would be the height of stupidity to play RGIII. A major injury could cost us $16M in 2016.

[SkinsJock]

why does this injury 'issue' keep coming up ....

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

It would be the height of stupidity to play RGIII. A major injury could cost us $16M in 2016.

Not that our team has ever done anything to shatter the glass ceiling of stupidity before, right?

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Should he play and get broken... Does the 16mil we are on the hook for count against the salary cap?

I'd think yes, but when reading the recent cuts I saw "injury settlement"

[oj]

Forget the money, it is gone and has no bearing on winning this weeks' game. Cut it loose, its just baggage, and focus on the important things.

[StorminMormon86]

Gruden ended a presser with a cryptic comment, something to the effect of, "He's [Griffin] still one of our 53...for now." This was after he was asked about potential trades for Griffin.

[SkinsJock]

What if Cousins throws more interceptions than TDs? What if the team struggles early in the season?

Do we then have a QB controversy and a three-ring comedy-drama circus?

Only in the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL can issues like this one become the more attractive reason to follow the soap opera named Washington Redskins.

No worries, neither RGIII or Jay Gruden will be here for the 2016 season (as predicted a while ago).

My only bet is the following: when will fans begin to become no-show in home games?

My prediction: beginning of November

despite a good start by our new GM there is still a lot of work to do, especially with the O line which is going to take some time to fix

NFL teams have a much better chance at success when the offense can run the ball well and the defense is V good against the run

we have now begun an era where this franchise is finally being managed by a FO that has a plan for the future - we're getting there but it will take a few drafts to finally reap the benefits - we do have some good RBs but we do not have a good offensive line and no matter who is playing QB, I see us going 8-8 at best and if these guys don't get off to a good start, it could get ugly here - I'd agree that there is a good chance that both Gruden and Griffin are not here next season although Griffin may benefit from having some more time to develop if they keep him around as a backup - Gruden's future depends on how his offense goes and with this O line that's iffy at best

there are some very good players to build around here on both offense and defense but the O line and defensive secondary are issues

[riggofan]

we have now begun an era where this franchise is finally being managed by a FO that has a plan for the future

Personally I'm going to watch this team for a year before I jump on the rainbow happy joy joy new era unicorn train. I don't want to be told things are different. I want to see it.

we're getting there but it will take a few drafts to finally reap the benefits - we do have some good RBs but we do not have a good offensive line and no matter who is playing QB, I see us going 8-8 at best and if these guys don't get off to a good start, it could get ugly here - I'd agree that there is a good chance that both Gruden and Griffin are not here next season although Griffin may benefit from having some more time to develop if they keep him around as a backup - Gruden's future depends on how his offense goes and with this O line that's iffy at best

I don't really get the negativity about our offensive line. This looks like potentially the strongest offensive line we've started in recent memory. Trent Williams healthy. One of the best o-line coaches in the league. Young guys, much bigger guys. I understand that Moses and Scherff are going to have to some growing to do this season, but O-line isn't really my biggest concern by a long shot right now.

I think the defense is the biggest issue for the team going into the season. They HAVE to be better this year. We have to be able to keep games close, so we can stick with the run game on offense.

[StorminMormon86]

Gruden, as quoted on his Redskins coach's show on channel 4:

"I think, based on all of the evidence, and all the time that we’ve put in, this was not an overnight decision. This was a lot of work that we put in over the last year-and-a-half, and based on all of the evidence, it was easy. Kirk really came out here and did everything right, and we feel like he made the biggest jump from a talent standpoint, from a knowledge standpoint, from a comfort standpoint in our system from Year One to Year Two, and it showed on the game day. So, it wasn’t that hard for us. It was maybe hard for people to grasp, but everybody in the building who saw it and witnessed it, it wasn’t that hard."

"We feel like the skill set that Kirk has, he does everything from rolling out of the pocket, he’s very good throwing on the move. In the pocket he’s very good, he has the best arm strength of the group, and can anticipate throws, and he has a good feel for the pocket. So really, when you talk about all the fundamental areas where you need a quarterback to succeed, Kirk is probably better at every one of them. Not to say the other ones are bad, but Kirk’s probably ahead of them in every category."

"There’s no politics involved. Let’s let them go out there, roll the ball out there, who makes the most progress, who completes the most balls, who makes the best decisions, and it was Kirk."

Those camp reports about Cousins not establishing himself ahead of Griffin must have been waaay off.

[SkinsJock]

I understand the wait and see approach but I think the writings on the wall here for Gruden - make things work here or you are gone

all that stuff about Griffin making progress and keeping him as the starter and now we hear that Cousins has been the choice all along and he's the one that can make all the plays ... etc, etc - if Griffin has not shown any improvement, why is he still here

I'm not buying this at all - I'm going to let these guys prove it to me on the field - I wonder what happens when things don't go well this season

[redskinz4ever]

this organization just needs to go out and win a football game start with week one and go from there ..... winning will make all the BS go away ..... about bob3 he is no longer a concern of mine cousins will handle his business and we will move on ..... HAIL !!!!!!

[PulpExposure]

Should he play and get broken... Does the 16mil we are on the hook for count against the salary cap?

I'd think yes, but when reading the recent cuts I saw "injury settlement"

It's yes.

[OldSchool]

I understand the wait and see approach but I think the writings on the wall here for Gruden - make things work here or you are gone

all that stuff about Griffin making progress and keeping him as the starter and now we hear that Cousins has been the choice all along and he's the one that can make all the plays ... etc, etc - if Griffin has not shown any improvement, why is he still here

I'm not buying this at all - I'm going to let these guys prove it to me on the field - I wonder what happens when things don't go well this season

SJ,

You feign ignorance like you don't already know the answer to the Griffin question. He has been Dan's guy so they did the contract option, designated him as the starter, gave him all the starter reps and laid on all the encouraging words about from camp. Sadly, you were taken in again but you saw with your own eyes Griffin doesn't know how to run Gruden's offense and you are pissed and bitter about it with Gruden. Griffin is going to get released when and if he passes the concussion test. I suspect he won't pass it until he gets the 16M, what is his incentive to pass it?

[SkinsJock]

OS - I get it - I just don't understand how Gruden thought that Griffin was making enough progress that he was the starting QB a couple of weeks before the season - we all saw how bad he was doing - why did Gruden go along with that? that's the only question I have - please don't say that Dan Snyder or someone else was in charge - Gruden was letting all of us know that Griffin was the starting QB because he was the best QB of the 3 in Gruden's estimation - just answer that for me ...

[SkinsJock]

I was not taken in by anything - Gruden informed us that Griffin was the starting QB and then kept him there despite all the evidence

[markshark84]

Those camp reports about Cousins not establishing himself ahead of Griffin must have been waaay off.

Yup --- that is why I roll my eyes when I hear people on here supporting things by using facts about how players are doing in practices or camp. The fact of the matter is --- if you are not actually there and within earshot of Gruden & the coaching staff, you really have no idea what is truly going on.

[SkinsJock]

you're so right - I am easily taken in - Please clarify for me how Griffin gets paid $16M for failing the concussion test ... thanks

[markshark84]

Personally I'm going to watch this team for a year before I jump on the rainbow happy joy joy new era unicorn train. I don't want to be told things are different. I want to see it.

Agree. Every off-season there is a new song and dance about how things are different --- yet we continue to lose.

I stopped believing the BS our media relations team has been throwing out for over 10 years now. Personally, I don't give 2 craps what this franchise says. Performance is all that matters to me.

[SkinsJock]

Those camp reports about Cousins not establishing himself ahead of Griffin must have been waaay off.

The fact of the matter is --- if you are not actually there and within earshot of Gruden & the coaching staff, you really have no idea what is truly going on.

we all know that Griffin was the starting QB - why? don't say that Snyder made that call - the playing decisions are made by the HC ...

[SkinsJock]

I know that Griffin is still here because of Snyder ... if Dan Snyder is still making the calls about who is playing here then it really does not matter who is the QB - nothing matters if this train wreck is still under the watchful eye of Dan Snyder

[DEHog]

you're so right - I am easily taken in - Please clarify for me how Griffin gets paid $16M for failing the concussion test ... thanks

I was wondering that as well...guess RG isn't getting cleared until March 2016??

[DEHog]

I know that Griffin is still here because of Snyder ... if Dan Snyder is still making the calls about who is playing here then it really does not matter who is the QB - nothing matters if this train wreck is still under the watchful eye of Dan Snyder

Well you and I obviously missed the obvious…
Riggo wrote:

You could totally see back in April when Gruden went from having an open QB competition to suddenly naming Griffin the starter for no apparent reason that he was blinking out morse code with his eyelids. "T-H-I-S-I-S-B-U-L-L-S-H..."