riggofan wrote:Btw nobody has mentioned QB really in "who gets added in FA". We're obviously going to bring in at least one quarterback in free agency.
Do you think there is any possibility they look at someone else to actually compete with Griffin/Cousins? Ryan Mallett maybe?
I think it depends on their mindset, if you are content on keeping RG and Cousins both this season than I think you bring in or draft/sign a young guy. If your thinking is one of them will be gone then I think you go the veteran route with a Hoyer, Mallett , McKown, or …
That's exactly what I was thinking, man. I don't personally think Griffin is going anywhere this year, but its not clear to me how they view Cousins at this point.
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SkinsJock wrote:YES! - I do think that the franchise will be 'better' and I'm hoping that the attitude will be improved as well ...
I think so too, SJ. My question though is really do you think the team can be significantly better on the field this year? I hate to even type this, but significantly better to me would be 7-9. lol.
I hope that's the case, but the defense in particular needs so much help. I'm not sure I can believe it yet.
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we all agree that there's a lot to do - the W/L this season is not as important as seeing better production on the field ...
we were terrible on BOTH offense and defense on 3rd downs last season and we constantly allowed other teams to stay on the field and worse, to score a bunch of points - you're right it would seem that the defense needs the most attention but the O line play also needs help and that is going to take a couple of years - I really believe we are going to be better and might get up to 7 wins but the most important thing is to visually see the evidence on the field in how they play and how they handle adversity
we did not look at all good in many games last season and the attitude IMO really sucked
I really think that Scott is going to not be near as aggressive as some are hoping and that he wants to get a feel for both what Jay wants and needs and what the staff he's got here are able to do
I think Jay realizes the importance of this franchise showing improvement ... everyone is going to be very motivated
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
SkinsJock wrote:YES! - I do think that the franchise will be 'better' and I'm hoping that the attitude will be improved as well ...
I think so too, SJ. My question though is really do you think the team can be significantly better on the field this year? I hate to even type this, but significantly better to me would be 7-9. lol.
I hope that's the case, but the defense in particular needs so much help. I'm not sure I can believe it yet.
Yeah I think they can be too. The key this year is to add the right people. when I posted my suggestions I tried going for young, consistent, low cost, and little to no injury history. Some of the players I posted are FAs that are either on bad teams and are undervalued, or have another big star on the team overshadowing them and requiring the big money.
Beyond that adding the right players in FA, these new coaches doing what they are hired to do, and a little bit of hard work and the skins may actually have a shot of looking good the right way this year.
Oh and also with what is possipossiy some extra cap money left over, we coulf either take a few chances on some 1 year deals on players, or we could restructure some players to pay more forward this year so we have more cap space in future years.
So if we have 15m left over because we cut the right FA's and spend smart in FA and dont waste money. We can look at trent, desean, hatcher, and lichtensteiger, offer a restructure that pays them more this year, keeps their current term and amount of total money the same, so that 15million extra is available next year and the year after.
Kinda like we did with albert, but its a capped year, so now Mara cant nail us on it.
Prowl33 wrote:Oh and also with what is possipossiy some extra cap money left over, we coulf either take a few chances on some 1 year deals on players, or we could restructure some players to pay more forward this year so we have more cap space in future years.
So if we have 15m left over because we cut the right FA's and spend smart in FA and dont waste money. We can look at trent, desean, hatcher, and lichtensteiger, offer a restructure that pays them more this year, keeps their current term and amount of total money the same, so that 15million extra is available next year and the year after.
Kinda like we did with albert, but its a capped year, so now Mara cant nail us on it.
I could see something like this being a good strategy. Using extra cap space this year to give current players a boost in exchange for lightening the impact of their contracts down the road. Could be a very smart move.
I'm not against adding young free agents and I'd like to see a 8 or 9 win season in 2015 - that's all great ...
actually, I'm sure that many here would get all excited if we had a 'great' season like we did in 2012
I'm sure I'm in the minority when I say I'd prefer to have a much improved product in 2015 that we can build on than a 10 win season that then has 2 x 3 win seasons in 2016 and 2017
Scot needs time and I'm sure they'd like to have a miracle turnaround here but IMO that is going to take at least 2 seasons
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Prowl33 wrote:Oh and also with what is possipossiy some extra cap money left over, we coulf either take a few chances on some 1 year deals on players, or we could restructure some players to pay more forward this year so we have more cap space in future years.
So if we have 15m left over because we cut the right FA's and spend smart in FA and dont waste money. We can look at trent, desean, hatcher, and lichtensteiger, offer a restructure that pays them more this year, keeps their current term and amount of total money the same, so that 15million extra is available next year and the year after.
Kinda like we did with albert, but its a capped year, so now Mara cant nail us on it.
I could see something like this being a good strategy. Using extra cap space this year to give current players a boost in exchange for lightening the impact of their contracts down the road. Could be a very smart move.
If we did that, then with Scots strategy the players we really need or want to retain we can afford to. Right now we really dont have a lot of current players worth breaking the bank for, and we shouldnt break the bank on a FA regardless of who it is because we have no clue how anyone will perform for us.
So why not start cutting bait on the guys we know arent worth their money, bring in some young guys coming off their rookie contracts, draft good players, all of which are inexpensive. Get 20-30 million under cap and frontload trent, when we resign kerrigan and morris frontload them, and a few of these guys we have a lot invested in like desean and hatcher.
Prowl33 wrote:Oh and also with what is possipossiy some extra cap money left over, we coulf either take a few chances on some 1 year deals on players, or we could restructure some players to pay more forward this year so we have more cap space in future years.
So if we have 15m left over because we cut the right FA's and spend smart in FA and dont waste money. We can look at trent, desean, hatcher, and lichtensteiger, offer a restructure that pays them more this year, keeps their current term and amount of total money the same, so that 15million extra is available next year and the year after.
Kinda like we did with albert, but its a capped year, so now Mara cant nail us on it.
I could see something like this being a good strategy. Using extra cap space this year to give current players a boost in exchange for lightening the impact of their contracts down the road. Could be a very smart move.
My understanding is that some unused cap can be rolled over to the next year.
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I truly hope we can restructure Garcon's contract so he can stay with the team. He is a top flight WR that didn't have anyone throwing the ball to him. He is MUCH better than his stats indicate. Having a dual threat makes things much easier. Remember 2012? We were 9-1 in games he played in.
That being said, it most likely would have to be a fairly significant pay decrease. He will be 29 by the beginning of next year, so there is room for negotiation.
As far as signing FAs --- I hope the FO breaks their bad habits and they don't sign anyone over 30 years old.....
markshark84 wrote:I truly hope we can restructure Garcon's contract so he can stay with the team. He is a top flight WR that didn't have anyone throwing the ball to him. He is MUCH better than his stats indicate. Having a dual threat makes things much easier. Remember 2012? We were 9-1 in games he played in.
I agree 100%, man. I know DJax is the big home run hitter and stole a lot of the thunder this year. But Garcon is just rock solid, reliable and I trust him to stay healthy more than Jackson.
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markshark84 wrote:I truly hope we can restructure Garcon's contract so he can stay with the team. He is a top flight WR that didn't have anyone throwing the ball to him. He is MUCH better than his stats indicate. Having a dual threat makes things much easier. Remember 2012? We were 9-1 in games he played in.
That being said, it most likely would have to be a fairly significant pay decrease. He will be 29 by the beginning of next year, so there is room for negotiation.
As far as signing FAs --- I hope the FO breaks their bad habits and they don't sign anyone over 30 years old.....
I agree too i think he is an asset, around 4 million or so would be well worth it. If he wont restructure though cutting ties makes the most sense financially.
Redskinsfansince81 wrote:Has Orakpo been cut already? He's too injury prone.
He's a free agent unless we franchise tag him. Doesn't have to be cut.
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Ouch. Not a Redskin among the top 100 free agents?? hah. Here's PFT's list. Any of these guys you would like to see targeted in free agency?
1. Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh.
2. Chiefs outside linebacker Justin Houston.
3. Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant.
4. Broncos wide receiver Demaryius Thomas.
5. Giants defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul.
6. Packers wide receiver Randall Cobb.
7. Patriots safety Devin McCourty.
8. Broncos tight end Julius Thomas.
9. Bills defensive end Jerry Hughes.
10. Steelers outside linebacker Jason Worilds.
11. Cowboys running back DeMarco Murray.
12. Panthers defensive end Greg Hardy.
13. Lions defensive tackle Nick Fairley.
14. Eagles wide receiver Jeremy Maclin.
15. Ravens defensive end Pernell McPhee.
16. Seahawks cornerback Byron Maxwell.
17. Packers offensive tackle Bryan Bulaga.
18. Chargers cornerback Brandon Flowers.
19. 49ers offensive guard Mike Iupati.
20. Broncos defensive tackle Terrance Knighton.
21. Washington outside linebacker Brian Orakpo.
22. Ravens wide receiver Torrey Smith.
23. Chiefs center Rodney Hudson.
24. Bills running back C.J. Spiller.
25. Titans outside linebacker/defensive end Derrick Morgan.
26. Eagles outside linebacker/defensive end Brandon Graham.
27. Broncos offensive guard Orlando Franklin.
28. Cardinals defensive tackle Dan Williams.
29. Texans cornerback Kareem Jackson.
30. 49ers wide receiver Michael Crabtree.
31. Dolphins defensive lineman Jared Odrick.
32. Browns tight end Jordan Cameron.
33. Browns outside linebacker/defensive end Jabaal Sheard.
34. Bears defensive tackle Stephen Paea.
35. Cardinals cornerback Antonio Cromartie.
36. Jets inside linebacker David Harris.
37. Raiders center Stefen Wisniewski.
38. Saints running back Mark Ingram.
39. Packers cornerback Davon House.
40. Bengals tight end Jermaine Gresham.
41. Broncos safety Rahim Moore.
42. Patriots running back Shane Vereen.
43. Packers cornerback Tramon Williams.
44. Chargers running back Ryan Mathews.
45. 49ers cornerback Chris Culliver.
46. Browns cornerback Buster Skrine.
47. Chargers offensive tackle King Dunlap.
48. Dolphins tight end Charles Clay.
49. Ravens running back Justin Forsett.
50. Eagles quarterback Mark Sanchez.
51. Giants safety Antrel Rolle.
52. Seahawks offensive guard James Carpenter.
53. Jaguars defensive tackle Tyson Alualu.
54. Saints cornerback Patrick Robinson.
55. Bengals offensive guard Clint Boling.
56. Patriots linebacker Akeem Ayers.
57. Jaguars wide receiver Cecil Shorts.
58. Cowboys defensive tackle Henry Melton.
59. Bills safety Da’Norris Searcy.
60. Cowboys linebacker Bruce Carter.
61. Bills inside linebacker Brandon Spikes.
62. Chargers wide receiver Eddie Royal.
63. 49ers running back Frank Gore.
64. Chargers cornerback Shareece Wright.
65. Cowboys linebacker Rolando McClain.
66. Texans linebacker Brooks Reed.
67. Cowboys offensive tackle Doug Free.
68. Falcons defensive end Kroy Biermann.
69. Ex-Buccaneers quarterback Josh McCown .
70. Jets defensive tackle Damon Harrison. (RFA)
71. Buccaneers defensive end Adrian Clayborn.
72. Eagles safety Nate Allen.
73. Rams offensive tackle Joe Barksdale.
74. Titans quarterback Jake Locker.
75. Texans offensive tackle Derek Newton.
76. Buccaneers inside linebacker Mason Foster.
77. Falcons linebacker Sean Weatherspoon.
78. 49ers cornerback Perrish Cox.
79. Falcons defensive tackle Corey Peters.
80. Raiders wide receiver Denarius Moore.
81. Browns quarterback Brian Hoyer.
82. Eagles cornerback Bradley Fletcher.
83. Ravens kicker Justin Tucker. (RFA)
84. Colts wide receiver Hakeem Nicks.
85. Browns safety Tashaun Gipson. (RFA)
86. Rams wide receiver Kenny Britt.
87. Rams tight end Lance Kendricks.
88. Chargers safety Marcus Gilchrist.
89. Texans safety Kendrick Lewis.
90. Patriots kicker Stephen Gostkowski.
91. Vikings quarterback Christian Ponder.
92. Eagles defensive end Cedric Thornton. (RFA)
93. Panthers offensive tackle Byron Bell.
94. Jets cornerback Kyle Wilson.
95. Jets defensive tackle Kenrick Ellis.
96. Giants cornerback Walter Thurmond.
97. Seahawks linebacker O’Brien Schofield.
98. Dolphins safety Louis Delmas.
99. Jets running back Chris Johnson.
100. Packers quarterback Scott Tolzien.
I realize we're likely to take a more low key approach to FA with McGloughan, but we're going to have to fill some holes in free agency this year out of necessity.
I still like a safety in free agency. Rahim Moore is the big one on my list, but Marcus Gilchrist from the Chargers might be an interesting one. Good chance Barry will have an opinion on him one way or the other.
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Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Ah thanks! No one came up when I searched Redskins. Forgot PFT won't use the name. lol. I was really surprised Rak wasn't in the top 100!
I'll be curious to see what happens with him next month. I don't really see how any team can offer him much of a contract.
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fredp45 wrote:I'd like to keep Coefield with a new contract...one that doesn't cost us $7.7 against the cap.
I could also see Riley getting cut and saving nearly $2 mil.
I believe you're the second person who broached the idea of keeping Moss one more year, me being the other. All my skins fans say he's gone, 100%. I like his leadership and think he's worth the vet min.
Perry Riley has been pretty good...... if I'm not mistaken?
Proverbs 27:17 As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.
Ah thanks! No one came up when I searched Redskins. Forgot PFT won't use the name. lol. I was really surprised Rak wasn't in the top 100!
I'll be curious to see what happens with him next month. I don't really see how any team can offer him much of a contract.
Yep, I guess someone else did notice.
Florio is a pretty vocal anti-name guy. Not to get that topic stirred up. I'm personally glad we haven't heard much about that in recent weeks.
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Not totally surprising, but apparently Merriweather isn't coming back.
Dianna Russini of NBC Washington is reporting that Redskins sources have informed her that they do not plan on bringing strong safety Brandon Meriweather back next season.
I hope these guys have a plan for safety this season!
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How surprised would you be to see Rak back in DC next year? I wouldn't have a problem with bringing him back at a reasonable price. Just hard to see that happening on either side.
ESPN’s John Keim reports that the Redskins met with free agent OLB Brian Orakpo‘s agent at the Scouting Combine last week.
According to Keim, Washington expressed interest in re-signing Orakpo during their meeting. Although, Keim adds there’s still a “long way to go” in regards to Orakpo being back in Washington next season, and he isn’t sure how much interest the Redskins really have in re-signing him at this point in time. Sources have told Keim that they do not expect Orakpo back in Washington.
At the very least, this is a positive sign that Washington may be willing to consider bringing him back if they can get him at a reasonable price.
The idea of Orakpo departing in free agency has been talked about for several months now, and dating back to October of last year when was placed on injured reserve with a torn right pectoral.
Orakpo, 28, played out the 2014 season under the team’s franchise tag and is once again in line to be an unrestricted free agent. Last year, he made a salary of $11.455 million.
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riggofan wrote:How surprised would you be to see Rak back in DC next year? I wouldn't have a problem with bringing him back at a reasonable price. Just hard to see that happening on either side.
Only for a good price and because im curious to see with a new strength coach hoping the injuries wont be a problem and with a new DC to see if he can develop a technique other than bull rushing..
Id say for us something like a 2 year, 10 million with 4 of it guaranteed would be ok. Rak probably thinks he can get more than that and he is likely right.... but any more than that and id rather use a draft pick
