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I posted the following message on December 15, 2014:

Redskin in Canada wrote:
"This team makes you want to pretend that you don’t see what you actually see, hear what you really hear. The worst and the saddest sight of all is the apparently poisoned relationship between Gruden and Griffin. Especially since owner Daniel Snyder will be tempted, given any option, to side with Griffin — at least to the extent that he may insist Gruden and Griffin coexist next year in the same dysfunctional relationship. Bring ’em both back! What could be worse? So, for this team, that’s what will happen."
Tom Boswel, WP

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/re ... story.html

NO HOPE. Daniel Snyder's PRIDE and the sweet talk of Bruce Allen in his ear will FORCE both Jay Gruden and RGIII to co-exist yet another season.

It will not work, of course. But you all seem to fail to understand the "logic" behind ...

This is about finding a SCAPEGOAT.

This disaster is not the result of Daniel Snyder's decision to make the trade with the Rams for the pick. He is not at fault. ;)

This disaster is not the result of Bruce Allen understanding of Daniel Snyder's "logic" for star power, give "football legitimization" to the decision for the trade and his rise in the Redskins organization just like Rasputin did. ;)

This disaster is not the result of the shortcomings of Robert Griffin III. He is just misunderstood and poorly coached ... twice. ;)

This year's disaster and the disaster NEXT year can and WILL be attributed to Jay Gruden. It is just a bit easier to FIRE a HC after TWO abysmal seasons instead of just ONE. :)

Under this scenario, Daniel Snyder's pride as owner is saved (and his willingness to intervene again in the future). Bruce Allen, the President can escape the responsibility of siding with the owner notwithstanding the fact that his Tampa years brought him to justify most of his actions and he can also STAY as head of the most powerful figure in the organization preventing the possibility of giving any possible control to a true knowledgeable General Manager (an Ozzie Newsome). Robert Griffin also gets at least a year or two to linger around. After all, competition is not really hard against Colt McCoy and Kirk Cousins, is it?

YES, there will be change, just not before the start of next season. Jay Gruden might and he will welcome and enjoy enormously being fired from the most DYSFUNCTIONAL organization in the whole of world sports (Yes, the LA clippers compare favourably against the Snyder Skins). Who would not enjoy an extra 3-year salary on holidays and capable to pay all of his psychotherapy sessions to remove any trauma scars after a 2-year tour of Washington and then enjoy the prospect to coach other teams against and beat Daniel Snyder's team? Other coaches enjoy this pleasure already. Awesome.

A nice quote reminds me of this chronicle announced a year in advance: "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose" or "the more things change, the more it's the same thing".

Poor Redskins fans. Some still suffering from self-deception, delusion, chest thumping win-or-LOSE valour, defrauded emotionally and economically, incapable to distinguish between rational analysis and eternal unfounded hope.

I admire you and I love you guys. I really do. I love you so much that I almost pity you if it was not for the fact that some of you think that ONLY IF the right coach comes, things will be fine. Obviously, Joe Gibbs II did not teach you ANYTHING.

Me? Not a fan anymore of a Daniel Snyder team. I will not attend a game. I will not watch. I will not pay. I want him to FAIL. I want an empty stadium. I want him BROKE. I want him to be focus of national scorn and ridicule. I want him to REMAIN the laughingstock of the NFL and the world of sports. I want him to PAY economically and socially for all the pain and hurt that he has brought to employees, players, coaches, and mostly true fans and their families. over the last 16 years.

You do not have to join many of us now. You will though. We are patient. We have the best ally one can have in support of our cause: Daniel Snyder.


How prophetic could this become? Griffin and Gruden coming back. Not much actually. It was actually VERY predictable outcome PROVIDED that any Washington fans removes its blinders, stops the delusion or prevents its blind loyalty to preserve in an eternal but unjustified hope for change.

Check some highlights of Boswell's WP article today:

Many fans, of course, already have had the sense of self-preservation to stop watching this team. But others have continued, out of masochism, lifelong habit, morbid curiosity or loyalty. For us, Sunday was a relief. What next? A long, blessed respite from buffoonery.

This final defeat, the team’s seventh loss in eight games and its 20th in its past 24 — the worst stretch of play since 1960-61 when the team was 1-9-2 and 1-12-1 — has left the franchise without a single strong suit or central personality around which to build. Will Gruden or Griffin or both be back next year? Probably both but not certainly — not after this stinker. Will defensive coordinator Jim Haslett return? His defense tied for the second-most points allowed — 31st — even worse than the average of his past 13 defenses as a head coach or defensive coordinator (26th).

What hasn’t gone wrong? Only once in the history of the franchise has Washington been this bad, back in 1960-61. Then, everybody said some variation of, “It’ll never be this awful again.” Because, come on, how could it be? But it is worse — right now. Because Dan Snyder owns the team.
After 15 years, it’s not hyperbole, just observation, to say he seems to have no clue about the NFL or evaluating key people or building an organization. But he also has no other major passion. He is his team. Vindication, someday, drives him. So he’s stuck. Which means the city is stuck with him.
Perhaps this is the moment when we can all adopt the veteran wisdom of Santana Moss. “I’m going to go vacate,” he said, “and enjoy my sanity.”
Or for some of us, what’s left of it
.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/re ... lt_strip_1

What hasn't gone wrong?

Fellow columnist Jason Reid provides the answer in the next column:

While watching the Dallas Cowboys toy with the Washington Redskins on Sunday, one question came to mind: What is Dan Snyder thinking?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/re ... story.html

As you can see, Welch has often argued that there was a time when the Washington Redskins were worse than now. Not true anymore as you can read in both articles. But this is not rock bottom. That stage would be a relief. The downward spiral continues and it WILL continue next season, NOTWITHSTANDING the promise of CHANGE through the sacrifice of a few already doomed scapegoats.

Boswell and Santana are right. Save whatever sanity is left of it. Join me Washington Redskins fans. Daniel Snider stole the team from us. I am not a fan anymore of a Daniel Snyder team. I will not attend a game. I will not watch. I will not pay. I want him to FAIL. I want an empty stadium. I want him BROKE. I want him to be focus of further national scorn and ridicule. I want him to REMAIN the laughingstock of the NFL and the world of sports. I want him to PAY economically and socially for all the pain and hurt that he has brought to employees, players, coaches, and mostly true fans and their families. over the last 16 years.

Boswell is right in his appreciation of Snyder: "He is his team. Vindication, someday, drives him. So he’s stuck".

UNLESS ... he stops profiting from our pockets. If you are angry ... REALLY ANGRY ... join me. Not a single cent should go into his pocket. Force him to sell or leave Washington DC.
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this is what needs to be done.... Change the name, the owner, the FO, the coaches and the players, then move to Iran...
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Redskin in Canada wrote:I posted the following message on December 15, 2014:

Redskin in Canada wrote:
"This team makes you want to pretend that you don’t see what you actually see, hear what you really hear. The worst and the saddest sight of all is the apparently poisoned relationship between Gruden and Griffin. Especially since owner Daniel Snyder will be tempted, given any option, to side with Griffin — at least to the extent that he may insist Gruden and Griffin coexist next year in the same dysfunctional relationship. Bring ’em both back! What could be worse? So, for this team, that’s what will happen."
Tom Boswel, WP

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/re ... story.html

NO HOPE. Daniel Snyder's PRIDE and the sweet talk of Bruce Allen in his ear will FORCE both Jay Gruden and RGIII to co-exist yet another season.

It will not work, of course. But you all seem to fail to understand the "logic" behind ...

This is about finding a SCAPEGOAT.

This disaster is not the result of Daniel Snyder's decision to make the trade with the Rams for the pick. He is not at fault. ;)

This disaster is not the result of Bruce Allen understanding of Daniel Snyder's "logic" for star power, give "football legitimization" to the decision for the trade and his rise in the Redskins organization just like Rasputin did. ;)

This disaster is not the result of the shortcomings of Robert Griffin III. He is just misunderstood and poorly coached ... twice. ;)

This year's disaster and the disaster NEXT year can and WILL be attributed to Jay Gruden. It is just a bit easier to FIRE a HC after TWO abysmal seasons instead of just ONE. :)

Under this scenario, Daniel Snyder's pride as owner is saved (and his willingness to intervene again in the future). Bruce Allen, the President can escape the responsibility of siding with the owner notwithstanding the fact that his Tampa years brought him to justify most of his actions and he can also STAY as head of the most powerful figure in the organization preventing the possibility of giving any possible control to a true knowledgeable General Manager (an Ozzie Newsome). Robert Griffin also gets at least a year or two to linger around. After all, competition is not really hard against Colt McCoy and Kirk Cousins, is it?

YES, there will be change, just not before the start of next season. Jay Gruden might and he will welcome and enjoy enormously being fired from the most DYSFUNCTIONAL organization in the whole of world sports (Yes, the LA clippers compare favourably against the Snyder Skins). Who would not enjoy an extra 3-year salary on holidays and capable to pay all of his psychotherapy sessions to remove any trauma scars after a 2-year tour of Washington and then enjoy the prospect to coach other teams against and beat Daniel Snyder's team? Other coaches enjoy this pleasure already. Awesome.

A nice quote reminds me of this chronicle announced a year in advance: "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose" or "the more things change, the more it's the same thing".

Poor Redskins fans. Some still suffering from self-deception, delusion, chest thumping win-or-LOSE valour, defrauded emotionally and economically, incapable to distinguish between rational analysis and eternal unfounded hope.

I admire you and I love you guys. I really do. I love you so much that I almost pity you if it was not for the fact that some of you think that ONLY IF the right coach comes, things will be fine. Obviously, Joe Gibbs II did not teach you ANYTHING.

Me? Not a fan anymore of a Daniel Snyder team. I will not attend a game. I will not watch. I will not pay. I want him to FAIL. I want an empty stadium. I want him BROKE. I want him to be focus of national scorn and ridicule. I want him to REMAIN the laughingstock of the NFL and the world of sports. I want him to PAY economically and socially for all the pain and hurt that he has brought to employees, players, coaches, and mostly true fans and their families. over the last 16 years.

You do not have to join many of us now. You will though. We are patient. We have the best ally one can have in support of our cause: Daniel Snyder.


How prophetic could this become? Griffin and Gruden coming back. Not much actually. It was actually VERY predictable outcome PROVIDED that any Washington fans removes its blinders, stops the delusion or prevents its blind loyalty to preserve in an eternal but unjustified hope for change.

Check some highlights of Boswell's WP article today:

Many fans, of course, already have had the sense of self-preservation to stop watching this team. But others have continued, out of masochism, lifelong habit, morbid curiosity or loyalty. For us, Sunday was a relief. What next? A long, blessed respite from buffoonery.

This final defeat, the team’s seventh loss in eight games and its 20th in its past 24 — the worst stretch of play since 1960-61 when the team was 1-9-2 and 1-12-1 — has left the franchise without a single strong suit or central personality around which to build. Will Gruden or Griffin or both be back next year? Probably both but not certainly — not after this stinker. Will defensive coordinator Jim Haslett return? His defense tied for the second-most points allowed — 31st — even worse than the average of his past 13 defenses as a head coach or defensive coordinator (26th).

What hasn’t gone wrong? Only once in the history of the franchise has Washington been this bad, back in 1960-61. Then, everybody said some variation of, “It’ll never be this awful again.” Because, come on, how could it be? But it is worse — right now. Because Dan Snyder owns the team.
After 15 years, it’s not hyperbole, just observation, to say he seems to have no clue about the NFL or evaluating key people or building an organization. But he also has no other major passion. He is his team. Vindication, someday, drives him. So he’s stuck. Which means the city is stuck with him.
Perhaps this is the moment when we can all adopt the veteran wisdom of Santana Moss. “I’m going to go vacate,” he said, “and enjoy my sanity.”
Or for some of us, what’s left of it
.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/re ... lt_strip_1

What hasn't gone wrong?

Fellow columnist Jason Reid provides the answer in the next column:

While watching the Dallas Cowboys toy with the Washington Redskins on Sunday, one question came to mind: What is Dan Snyder thinking?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/re ... story.html

As you can see, Welch has often argued that there was a time when the Washington Redskins were worse than now. Not true anymore as you can read in both articles. But this is not rock bottom. That stage would be a relief. The downward spiral continues and it WILL continue next season, NOTWITHSTANDING the promise of CHANGE through the sacrifice of a few already doomed scapegoats.

Boswell and Santana are right. Save whatever sanity is left of it. Join me Washington Redskins fans. Daniel Snider stole the team from us. I am not a fan anymore of a Daniel Snyder team. I will not attend a game. I will not watch. I will not pay. I want him to FAIL. I want an empty stadium. I want him BROKE. I want him to be focus of further national scorn and ridicule. I want him to REMAIN the laughingstock of the NFL and the world of sports. I want him to PAY economically and socially for all the pain and hurt that he has brought to employees, players, coaches, and mostly true fans and their families. over the last 16 years.

Boswell is right in his appreciation of Snyder: "He is his team. Vindication, someday, drives him. So he’s stuck".

UNLESS ... he stops profiting from our pockets. If you are angry ... REALLY ANGRY ... join me. Not a single cent should go into his pocket. Force him to sell or leave Washington DC.


I still remember '60-'61 as the worst. We had George Preston Marshall as owner & he didn't even WANT to win.
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yupchagee wrote:I still remember '60-'61 as the worst. We had George Preston Marshall as owner & he didn't even WANT to win.


mmmmmmmmmhhh [-X

Let's see:

Here are the 10 worst Redskins seasons of all time


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fanc ... -all-time/
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Snyder wont be going anywhere.... he is still making plenty of money. Show me a business owner that is turning lots of profit willing to walk away from his business.

When it comes to Gruden, I think the opposite is true. This is not a team that anyone can fix in a season. If anything, in washington, it takes a year to just learn and understand what you are dealing with.

Gruden is a coach that demands respect, speaks the truth unfiltered, and demands a strong work ethic and results. No more kids gloves to baby these players, or anyone else. Now that year 1 is done and he knows everyone, and understands the challenges he faces, I believe he will come back with a plan next year to fix it and we will see positive change.
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Prowl33 wrote:Snyder wont be going anywhere.... he is still making plenty of money. Show me a business owner that is turning lots of profit willing to walk away from his business.

Owners have often left town when the grass looks greener in another city. He can be driven out. The value of the franchise has nowhere to go but down with ongoing ridicule and drama.

When it comes to Gruden, I think the opposite is true. This is not a team that anyone can fix in a season. If anything, in washington, it takes a year to just learn and understand what you are dealing with.

Gruden is a coach that demands respect, speaks the truth unfiltered, and demands a strong work ethic and results. No more kids gloves to baby these players, or anyone else. Now that year 1 is done and he knows everyone, and understands the challenges he faces, I believe he will come back with a plan next year to fix it and we will see positive change.

I will BRING UP this post at this precise time next year in order to show YOU and OTHERS that the second season is the LAST season of Gruden. He will NOT start a third season here.

You do not seem to understand that your plausible and reasonable proposal DOES NOT FIT the marketing agenda of the idiot owner. He has a PROVEN snake oil formula: bring up a new coach and maybe ... just maybe ... for the tenth time ... he will get to divert the anger and frustration of fans towards the "benefit of the doubt" because delusion is eternal.

No, Redskins fans who repeat the same mistake following the same destructive path as the owner gives them the same snake oil time and time again are masochists. That is NOT loyalty. For as long as the Front Office is not fixed and the owner stops meddling, the cycle repeats itself. My formula is preferable: let us driving him out of town!

It can be done. Just a matter of time before the angry signs against Snyder appear in the stadium again.
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Could the NFL expand and bring another football team to northern Virginia or something? After all San Fran and Oakland both have football teams and those cities are right next to each other. I love the NFL ... but I hate following the Redskins now after Snyder flushed this franchise down his toilet bowl. I would rather follow a new expansion team in this area than the tired old (same old same old) Redskins. Wouldn't it be great to see all old Redskin fans jump to the new DC expansion team and leave Snyder to play with his "toy" alone and by himself. Maybe the Washington Wildcats ... or Virginia Statesmen or something. Please NFL ... expand into DC !!! We need a new and REAL NFL team ... not a laughingstock team that is a plaything of a no-nothing incompetent ego-maniac shrimpy dull-witted retarded businessman.
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HogHeaven1983 wrote:Could the NFL expand and bring another football team to northern Virginia or something? After all San Fran and Oakland both have football teams and those cities are right next to each other. I love the NFL ... but I hate following the Redskins now after Snyder flushed this franchise down his toilet bowl I would rather follow a new expansion team in this area than the tired old (same old same old) Redskins. Wouldnt it be great to see all old Redskin fans jump to the new DC expansion team and leave Snyder to play with his "toy" alone and by himself. Maybe the Washington Wildcats ... or Virginia Statesmen or something. Please NFL ... expand into DC !!! We need a new and REAL NFL team ... not a laughingstock team that is a plaything of a no-nothing incompetent ego-maniac shrimpy dull-witted businessman.

Yes, it can happen. We have to drive Danny out first though.

Two teams took already a lot of market away from the Skins: Panthers and Ravens.

God had mercy with many former Carolina and Baltimore Redskins fans. Read the social media posts by Skins fans. They have had it.

Even in a website as hardcore loyal to the Skins as this one, you will find down a thread asking members to post their SECOND team. :roll:

Is it difficult to witness the loss of fans not only at games in the stadium but HERE IN THIS BOARD??? :explode:

Let's recover our team.
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I'll take John Kent Cooke for the new owner...which he should've been in the 1st place...
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A question both the owner and players have to answer. What is important, making money or football? It is clear to me that making money is the #1 focus for the owner and until this changes I don't expect to see much improvement. At the same time, the players must focus on Football vs promoting their image. Bottom line, if it is not all about football the Redskins will never achieve excellence.
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Snyder’s not going anywhere RIC. There was a question a few months back (forgot who asks it) but it was asked would we as Skins fans be willing to go without any football for a few years if it meant Snyder would be out as owner?? A few years ago the (basketball) fans in Charlotte forced the owner out and got a new franchise and owner…that is the only way I see Snyder leaving and I don’t see that happening.
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DEHog wrote:Snyder’s not going anywhere RIC. There was a question a few months back (forgot who asks it) but it was asked would we as Skins fans be willing to go without any football for a few years if it meant Snyder would be out as owner?? A few years ago the (basketball) fans in Charlotte forced the owner out and got a new franchise and owner…that is the only way I see Snyder leaving and I don’t see that happening.

That is the difference.

I see it happening as a RIDICULE campaign drives him out of here.

We already have ALL of the media on our side (except for the side controlled by him).

We already have a critical mass of angry fans.

I know you do not believe me now. But I see it coming. Thousands of fans have already refused to renew their season tickets. Would you buy at face value price and then be compelled to sell at $3 a piece begging somebody to take it PLEASE? No? Neither will many fans. Sometimes the organization BUYS its own tickets to argue that the stadium is sold out.

People are voting with their feet. No more ridicule. Not on their money or their time.
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SKINS#1 wrote:A question both the owner and players have to answer. What is important, making money or football? It is clear to me that making money is the #1 focus for the owner and until this changes I don't expect to see much improvement. At the same time, the players must focus on Football vs promoting their image. Bottom line, if it is not all about football the Redskins will never achieve excellence.

Good question.

This is my answer:

Players want to succeed both in sports and in business. They want to belong to a winning organization which will pay them well. Players want a great coach and a good team spirit. They also want the safety and comfort of safe retirement when their career end in this violent and injury plagued sport. They want it all.

If they cannot get it all, some will choose money and others will choose a winning organization in the hope of cashing in economically and achieving recognition.

Then a small few will want to come and steal a whole bunch of money from Daniel Snyder who has gladly paid for no return (Haynsworth and other brilliant signings anybody?)

I still remember the times when great players wanted to come here and play for Joe Gibbs for LESS money than they would get elsewhere. That time looks like ancient history now.
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Redskin in Canada wrote:
DEHog wrote:Snyder’s not going anywhere RIC. There was a question a few months back (forgot who asks it) but it was asked would we as Skins fans be willing to go without any football for a few years if it meant Snyder would be out as owner?? A few years ago the (basketball) fans in Charlotte forced the owner out and got a new franchise and owner…that is the only way I see Snyder leaving and I don’t see that happening.

That is the difference.

I see it happening as a RIDICULE campaign drives him out of here.

We already have ALL of the media on our side (except for the side controlled by him).

We already have a critical mass of angry fans.

I know you do not believe me now. But I see it coming. Thousands of fans have already refused to renew their season tickets. Would you buy at face value price and then be compelled to sell at $3 a piece begging somebody to take it PLEASE? No? Neither will many fans. Sometimes the organization BUYS its own tickets to argue that the stadium is sold out.

People are voting with their feet. No more ridicule. Not on their money or their time.



But I don't see it changing the bottom line.DC is a transient place, the division games are always well attended (even when Skins fans don’t attend….See Dallas/Philly this year) September games are well attended. So that leaves you with a few games late that may not be well attended depending on the opponent ( See Tampa, St. Louis). On the off chance the Skins are in the playoff hunt the fans will attend. One could argue that 05, 07 and 2012 were the worst thing that could have happened…
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DEHog wrote:But I don't see it changing the bottom line.DC is a transient place, the division games are always well attended (even when Skins fans don’t attend….See Dallas/Philly this year) September games are well attended. So that leaves you with a few games late that may not be well attended depending on the opponent ( See Tampa, St. Louis). On the off chance the Skins are in the playoff hunt the fans will attend. One could argue that 05, 07 and 2012 were the worst thing that could have happened…

It is a combined result. I assure you that ridicule will work TOGETHER with revenue loss from fewer and lower sponsor endorsements. Just watch.
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Redskin in Canada wrote:
DEHog wrote:But I don't see it changing the bottom line.DC is a transient place, the division games are always well attended (even when Skins fans don’t attend….See Dallas/Philly this year) September games are well attended. So that leaves you with a few games late that may not be well attended depending on the opponent ( See Tampa, St. Louis). On the off chance the Skins are in the playoff hunt the fans will attend. One could argue that 05, 07 and 2012 were the worst thing that could have happened…

It is a combined result. I assure you that ridicule will work TOGETHER with revenue loss from fewer and lower sponsor endorsements. Just watch.

I see that happening across the board in the NFL because of different issues...but what does it mean?? He makes 23 mil a year vs. 25?? We're talking about a guy who blew 40 mil on a player!! If he were to lose money I think it would actually help the franchise, because he wouldn’t have the money to spend on overprice FA...
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I love this quote from Bruce Allen's presser today:

“We’re winning off the field, but we’ve got to start winning on the field,” he said.


Whaaaaaaaatt??????? #-o

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riggofan wrote:I love this quote from Bruce Allen's presser today:

“We’re winning off the field, but we’ve got to start winning on the field,” he said.


Whaaaaaaaatt??????? #-o

Might need to be my new sig.

Maybe he was referring to him mowing the grass on Tuesdays??
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riggofan wrote:I love this quote from Bruce Allen's presser today:

“We’re winning off the field, but we’ve got to start winning on the field,” he said.


Whaaaaaaaatt??????? #-o

Might need to be my new sig.

Maybe he was referring to him mowing the grass on Tuesdays??


He was probably talking about all of the money they still rake in no matter how crap they are on the field. Wasn't supposed to admit that publicly.
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riggofan wrote:I love this quote from Bruce Allen's presser today:

“We’re winning off the field, but we’ve got to start winning on the field,” he said.


Whaaaaaaaatt??????? #-o

Might need to be my new sig.


Read all about it in the WP:

So that Bruce Allen press conference went well


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc- ... went-well/

and

http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events ... 06cc0ceb0c

and

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc- ... onference/

Inspiring confidence throughout ... what a mess #-o
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Redskins have spent 21 years in the wilderness


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc- ... ilderness/

Brutal. And I thought i was angry ...

Check the article but most importantly ... check the comments by fans. Wow!

No question in my mind, it is a whole bunch of us now. It is for real.
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snyder is one of those incompetent idiots that lucked into money and now thinks he's a genius ...

unfortunately for all redskins fans -- he single-handedly destroyed this franchise.

the deadskins are doomed to mediocrity until idiot and raging lunatic egomaniac dannyboy croaks

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We have a real GM now. So that should be some kind of hope. Why wallow in sorrow? If theres hope grab on to it.

I understand. If you keep your expectations low then if we actually do get a winning team again it will be that much better.
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Dan Snyder's not going away - he needs to understand that he's getting in the way of guys that know what they're doing

I think this franchise can become a playoff contender but we need to have people in charge that know how to make that happen
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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