What if Colt McCoy goes on a 5 game win streak?

[HogHeaven1983]

I realize the odds of that are slim and their chances Sunday slim. But wouldn't it be something if Colt McCoy ends up 7-0 as a Redskins QB and the Skins finish the season 8-8 (just 1 or 2 games from a playoff berth). I realize Colt didn't start the Titans game but was trailing when he took over for Cousins and pulled out a win -- Colt deserves to have that game racked up in his favor. If that actually happened, I wonder if we all might start to think perhaps the Skins lucked into a decent starting QB.

Then I am sure the thoughts will naturally follow about what this season might have looked like if he'd been playing from day 1 -- OR ALTERNATIVELY how this season might have turned out if he was not pulled from the starting role after one of the greatest Redskins games in 2 years (their win over the Cowboys at Dallas on Monday Night))

One wild card to this off-season is I think Colt is an unrestricted Free Agent after this season -- so if he does look good, it might take a lot of $$$ to keep him. Just interesting to contemplate. Obviously the rest of the team would have to play great for a 5-0 run to ensue -- the D would have to play great and generate some turnovers -- and the O would need to minimize turnovers and stupid penalties. Kind of fun to think about the off-season conversions that would happen if that occurred.

RG3 might be red-faced (could "Redskins" really is a symbol for being red-faced from embarrassment ... or from the humiliation) on the sidelines after him making those comments that he needs everyone to play well around him and there are no pro bowl players on this team. If Colt wins games with this team -- it will just emphasize how BADLY Bob Griffin played.

[SkinsJock]

only way that happens is to win this first game ... only way for this team to win any games if for everybody to play well

we did not lose 8 games because of the play by the QB anymore than we won 3 games because of the QB

hopefully we get great play from the QB but it will not mean a win if the rest of the team do not play well

at this time I'd settle for us getting lucky and finding a way to win

[SkinsJock]

Let's understand that both Cousins and McCoy are really just good back up QBs and we have both because we could not be sure what we were going to get from Griffin

Gruden has decided to go with McCoy because Griffin's mechanics are not giving the offense any chance to work as designed - this is not an opportunity to be a starting QB next season - Mccoy is not going to suddenly become a starting caliber QB - he's a good backup

I hope that Griffin finds out from Gruden what he can do to save his career - it seems that the QB coach he's been getting help from has not been that helpful - QBs like Gannon and Young were able to work with the coaches on their teams to help them change the way they played - with the new CBA Griffin is restricted on what help he can get from the Redskins coaches in order to work on his weaknesses

[oj]

From what I have seen of Colt he has the aggressive attitude that I liked in Cousins, they are both decisive and have quick releases. I hope that Colt and the receivers can get on the same page, keep the offense fairly basic to give him a chance to work with the receivers and get some confidence in each other so they can help him.
I don't much care for grudens' offense, nor for him as a coach, but sending Colt out there is the best chance this team has for a win. He is aggressive and that will translate to the rest of the team.
This game is very winnable.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Im not buying us taking down the Colts one bit...

Colt has one td pass and it was a nine yard pass that Garcon burnt the defenders and took 80 yards.

Not a knock on Colt just being realistic. Hes under thrown Djax on every occasion. . Our wide outs have made spectacular catches to bail his poor throw out..

BUT the thing hebbrings to the table over Griff is the wilkingness to pull the trigger and give one of our stud wrs a chance to make a play. Robert doesnt trust the line (rightfully so) and doesnt have enough confidence in his wideouts to go up and make a play. Colt will huck it out there and at least we have a chance. This also leads to turnovers tho. And while I loved the dullass W, he hit their linebackers in the chest on a few would be ints.

I think if we lean on Al, keep the O oj the field, utilize play action and roll outs (same recipe for rg) he will find more success in that he will get rid of the ball. I also predict him to get sacked, alot, but hopefully not auite as often as Robert.

Even if we peel off 5 straight, I dont think that solidifies him as a starter. Idk. Hes gonna have to show more then he has imo. Our D has gotten better then they were on opening day as our young dbs build confidence. .. but honestly if we win 5 straight alls we are doing is moving up the list on draft day. I hate to lose for a draft position, but I doubt we can win out anyhow. Sweep dullass, beat philthy and ny, and id be pumped. I think even those 3 Ws would be a miracle tho

[SkinsJock]

I hope that we win every game no matter who the QB is but there's no way that McCoy or Cousins are the long term solution here at QB no matter what happens for the rest of the season or how many wins the team has going forward

we need help at DB/S, pass rusher and at all positions on the O line

MOST importantly we need a short term and long term plan - this year to year BS has got to stop

In this next draft I hope we can trade every pick for more picks - we need as many draft choices as we can get over 7 rounds


first thing is to hope the O line and DBs can play above themselves and help us find a way to win this next game

[HogHeaven1983]

In this next draft I hope we can trade every pick for more picks - we need as many draft choices as we can get over 7 rounds

The trouble with this strategy is the Redskins scouting department sucks and rarely makes a good pick -- so more picks just means more busts.

Idiot Snyder never thinks about spending his money on top flight scouts ... he would rather have "fun" and be involved in picking players. Like he did in scouting WR Malcolm Kelly and declaring his knee sound then insisting we draft him. Snyders hands are all over this franchise -- and he's slowly bankrupting the organization (in terms of winning)

So basically we are doomed until Snyder croaks and that might be another 40+ years.

So maybe by 2055, we might start getting better and become a contender.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

^ on my NFL app it shows what teams are attending the ncaa games.. and I haven't seen us on any list for any game all year.

Sure you can watch film but scouting should definitely entail MORE then that. If not, then give me the ncaa "ticket" and add me to the scouting dept bank roll!!

[SkinsJock]

^ on my NFL app it shows what teams are attending the ncaa games.. and I haven't seen us on any list for any game all year. Sure you can watch film but scouting should definitely entail MORE then that.
If not, then give me the ncaa "ticket" and add me to the scouting dept bank roll!!

my concern also - Dan needs to make Bruce 'the goose' the President and hire a real GM to just manage the team
the whole FO and scouting dept needs to change and be under the control of the GM

Dan has to face the facts and stop meddling

we need a plan - it's going to take a couple of years to even be competitive again because of this twit owner we have

very, very disappointing

[RayNAustin]

Let's understand that both Cousins and McCoy are really just good back up QBs and we have both because we could not be sure what we were going to get from Griffin

Gruden has decided to go with McCoy because Griffin's mechanics are not giving the offense any chance to work as designed - this is not an opportunity to be a starting QB next season - Mccoy is not going to suddenly become a starting caliber QB - he's a good backup

I hope that Griffin finds out from Gruden what he can do to save his career - it seems that the QB coach he's been getting help from has not been that helpful - QBs like Gannon and Young were able to work with the coaches on their teams to help them change the way they played - with the new CBA Griffin is restricted on what help he can get from the Redskins coaches in order to work on his weaknesses

It's erroneous to suggest that McCoy is not a starting QB, because he IS STARTING today, and did so in our best game of the year in the win over the cowgirls.

Fact is, during his time in Cleveland, he had no help on offense, and that was a lousy hand he had to play. He has looked solid in his brief work here, with weapons to help him.

No, McCoy isn't a Tom Brady or Aaron Rogers ... but he could be a Mark Rypien level guy. He's shown good touch on the long ball even though he doesn't have a gun for an arm ... and he's also shown that he understands how to manage the game ... read defenses ... and get the ball to his play makers.

So far, he's proven to be the most proficient of the options, so until he proves otherwise, he is indeed a starting QB. If he continues to play the way he played in Dallas, he might keep that job.

One thing people don't seem to understand about Colt is that while he doesn't possess those features of a superstar everyone looks for, he finds a way to win. The kid was a winner at UT, and he looks to be better than Griffin and Cousins, at this point.

[Smithian]

Won't happen, but if it did he is our guy. Would be awesome.

Right or wrong, the RGIII experience has ended horribly and there are countless threads detailing it. I just want to see Colt McCoy give reason to believe in the Gruden offense.

I think Gruden just wants a game manager quarterback, not a game changer. Run first offense, controlled passing offense, get the ball into the hands of playmakers, and rely on defense. The Redskins have playmakers in Jackson and Garcon and some backs to lean on. Get the ball to playmakers, let them thrive. I want to see Garcon, Jackson, Reed, and even second tier guys like Andre Roberts and Niles Paul show well down the stretch.

If Gruden can get decent production in the closing stretch of the season out of Colt McCoy, then I'm a full believer. Do what they must with RGIII and find a QB that Gruden is comfortable. With what he did for Andy Dalton, I don't think the Skins will have to go find the next Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, or Peyton Manning. Just a quarterback who can be developed into a reliable and efficient manager. It isn't impossible to find the next Joe Flacco or Russell Wilson. Find a smart quarterback and surround them with talent. I would prefer RGIII dropping bombs and running circles around defenses and being a transcendent talent like he was as a rookie, but it appears that is no longer our future. We need to cheer for a more gifted Andy Dalton.

[Irn-Bru]

Please, God, give us this "problem" to deal with.

[SkinsJock]

OK Ray - Colt is the Redskins 'starting QB' - how lucky are we

I'm not sure anyone still thinks that the play of the QB is the real reason why we are at 3-9

just as many would have liked to see Colt play the Bucs and 49ers, I would have loved to see Griffin play this game ...

result might not have been different but I think he would have helped more than Colt did

[hanburgerheel]

I would have loved to see Griffin play this game ...

Yeah, we would have had 6 points (the 2 field goals)

[SkinsJock]

with Bruce Allen and Dan Snyder making the draft decisions like they did to get Griffin, we're sure to have another future great QB in here with that first pick in the draft - I wonder what they have to give up this time

that Oregon QB is a must have item for the Danny

The problem with this franchise is that nobody knows anything about how to build a team from scratch - this isn't a QB issue, we have problems from top to bottom ... Snyder needs to find someone to manage the franchise - and that is not Bruce Allen

RG3 looks like he's done here and that means we need to find a QB but let's be honest, we need lot's of things ...

I really hope that Snyder makes Bruce Allen the president and then gets a GM in here who can make a plan and get it started - if that includes looking for his own HC, so be it - we need to build this franchise into a contender again and that means bringing in his own people we need to do that - this year to year stuff that Snyder has been doing is not working

[StorminMormon86]

Cousins will be the starter in 2015.

[OldSchool]

McCoy or Cousins are good enough to run Gruden's system it is the defense and offense line that are lacking. McCoy is playing not and after putting up 3 TDs and nearly 400 years I think he showed enough.

[riggofan]

Cousins will be the starter in 2015.

Possible I guess. I would have been more inclined to believe that if Gruden had started him vs. the Colts.

[riggofan]

This is kind of what worries me about the QBs at the moment is I'm not really sure there is any kind of plan. Just seems like they're flailing around desperately. Not to mention that its kind of impossible to evaluate any of them when the defense is allowing 49 pts.

[SkinsJock]

... RG3 might be red-faced ("Redskins" really is a symbol for being red-faced from embarrassment ... or from the humiliation) on the sidelines after making those comments that he needs everyone to play well around him and there are no pro bowl players on this team. If Colt wins games with this team -- it will just emphasize how BADLY Bob Griffin played.

how astute you are showing yourself to be ... you might even make the foes list soon with posts like that

there is no doubt that Gruden needed to make a change but it's clear to most of us that the reason we've lost 9 games is not because of who is playing QB - the O line is not helping the passing game at all, the defense is equally bad - it's very difficult to even evaluate much with this sort of effort from the coaches and players - this group is in disarray and showing very little effort

[riggofan]

Not clear at all to John Keim:

There's a dramatic difference between the Redskins and the Colts and much of it comes down to one position. Andrew Luck is fantastic and makes everyone around him better. They don't have a great offensive line. They don't have a good run game (not with Trent Richardson especially). They don't have a top defense. Yet they win. As one Redskins player said, Luck is fearless in the pocket.

[SkinsJock]

Last Monday RG3 was still the QB and tickets for the 12/7 home game were $7.00 - last Thursday they were at $4.00

today the tickets are at $3.00 - Dan must be thrilled ... with tickets so affordable there's a good chance of a huge crowd

[SkinsJock]

I heard one analyst point out that Luck is doing pretty well behind a not so good O line ... DUH

It's okay to have a not so good O line when you have a QB that is like Andrew Luck - there are just not many QBs of that level around and the fact is we have a worse O line than the Colts and nobody has coached up the QBs here to play behind a not so good O line

anyone that makes excuses for this line is just blind - we are where we are because of many reasons but one of them is the O line

same old, same old - the good QB can make a bad O line look better but a good O line can help a QB a lot more

now let me see ... what came first, the chicken or the egg?



we need to find a way to have good linemen on both sides of the ball and good depth

and

we need a QB

[StorminMormon86]

Possible I guess. I would have been more inclined to believe that if Gruden had started him vs. the Colts.

C00ley touched on this in the pregame on the radio. Sheehan interrupted him before he could answer fully, but he was saying that Gruden wants to win now to showcase to Allen and Snyder that his offense works, and it wasn't Griffin. He doesn't have the time to "develop" Cousins for the final 5 games, so he's rolling with McCoy since he gives the team the best chance to win right now. He also said he predicts Cousins to be the starter week 1 in 2015.

[welch]

Possible I guess. I would have been more inclined to believe that if Gruden had started him vs. the Colts.

C00ley touched on this in the pregame on the radio. Sheehan interrupted him before he could answer fully, but he was saying that Gruden wants to win now to showcase to Allen and Snyder that his offense works, and it wasn't Griffin. He doesn't have the time to "develop" Cousins for the final 5 games, so he's rolling with McCoy since he gives the team the best chance to win right now. He also said he predicts Cousins to be the starter week 1 in 2015.

ey cannot tell us what Gruden thinks or plans. Cousins might start in 2015, or he might not. The assistant coaches might know, and Mrs. Gruden might know, but ey and the public?

Example: during the playoffs leading to SB 26, the Lions run&shoot offense destroyed the Cowboys. Redskins played them the next week in the NFC championship game. People asked Richie Petibon how he planned to stop the Lions. His answer: "Well, I don't know, but I guess we won't try what the Cowboys did". On the first play from scrimmage, Sir Charles Mann slipped a blocker on the right side, Barry Sanders waved at Mann. Mann knocked Erik Kramer about five yards backward, and knocked the ball about five yards farther than Kramer.

Until the off-season and then the pre-season, there is so predicted what Gruden will do or why.