Start Cousins & Try To Make Playoffs

[Countertrey]

I guess Dan Marino sucked. Sonny's win loss was pretty weak, too...

[grampi]

I guess there's just no reasoning with those who wear RG3 colored glasses...

[StorminMormon86]

Everyone wants wins. And I don't think that even if Kirk is playing mediocre, if we make go on a 6-2 or 7-1 stretch, Kirk should remain the starter. But to say wins-losses is a way to gauge who the better QB is is ridiculous. You can't say Griffin's W-L makes him better, either. People are quick to point to 2012 and say that Griffin is the better option, but I'm still curious to see how Kirk can function in this new offense under Gruden. Because it seemed to me like Gruden started off against the Jags with the "gimmicky" stuff with Griffin, before scraping it completely.

[SkinsJock]

I must have missed some of the game - I did not see any "gimmicky" plays while Griffin was on the field last Sunday

I saw a QB and OC that were looking like they were going to have a really great game plan that included using those plays where Griffin is able to read the defense and run or pass - I'm looking forward to seeing that again when we get Griffin back because those plays will not be used much while Cousins is behind center

Griffin needs time to get better as a QB and also to play the way Gruden wants him to play - I think Cousins should be very good running Gruden's offense but Griffin will be better at it when he gets more time at QB

Cousins is going to have a great opportunity for the short term but Griffin will be the better QB in the long term

[riggofan]

I guess there's just no reasoning with those who wear RG3 colored glasses...

I wasn't aware you had a point.

And what exactly are RG3 colored glasses? Sounds kinda racist.

[emoses14]

I guess there's just no reasoning with those who wear RG3 colored glasses...

I agree with this. You can not reason with those who are so driven by ulterior motives that they can't give Griffin any credit for anything.

[Countertrey]

I guess there's just no reasoning with those who wear RG3 colored glasses...

I agree with this. You can not reason with those who are so driven by ulterior motives that they can't give Griffin any credit for anything.

i see what you did there...

[Deadskins]

I guess there's just no reasoning with those who wear RG3 colored glasses...

Let us know when you start using reason, and we'll see.

[grampi]

I guess there's just no reasoning with those who wear RG3 colored glasses...

I agree with this. You can not reason with those who are so driven by ulterior motives that they can't give Griffin any credit for anything.

Ulterior motives? If wanting the team to win is an ulterior motive, then yes, I am guilty. And I've given RG3 plenty of credit, I just don't think he's the team's savior as many others do...

[SkinsJock]

I do not look at Griffin as the be all and end all of QBs ...

it's simple for me - right now Cousins is more 'comfortable' playing QB the way that Jay Gruden wants it done - this is the type of offense that he's been playing for a long while - Griffin needs time to be as good at QB as Cousins is right now but Griffin offers more upside

we are in a situation right now that Cousins will get the opportunity to make things happen here and when Griffin can play again he will get the time to continue to make himself a better QB depending on how well Cousins plays

I hope Cousins is terrific and makes it hard for Gruden to make a decision - I just think that Griffin is the better QB in 2015 and he needs time on the field to become that type of QB

we just have to hope that Cousins can stay healthy till Griffin can play again


if not we'll start a thread about how great McCoy is & how lucky he is to get a shot at replacing Cousins as Griffin's back up

[riggofan]

I just don't think he's the team's savior as many others do...

There is literally no one on this site who believes RGIII is "the team's savior". This is why your comments are just trolling.

[SkinsJock]

and this just in from John Keim ...

ASHBURN, Va. -- The play did not set up as a likely pass to Darrel Young. The fullback split out wide, a design to put Jacksonville’s defense in a little bind. But Kirk Cousins did not anticipate the opening, nor did the Jaguars expect him to pass to Young.

At the snap, Cousins looked to his left, worked back to the right and saw the cornerback jump the route to the corner. That left Young wide open, and Cousins pounced, making a throw that appeared easy but took patience and seeing the entire field.

It’s among the abilities he brings to the starting job. Would Robert Griffin III had made that same throw? Impossible to say, though when talking to people about Cousins, they say he sees the field better. That doesn’t mean he has more potential or is better, but that is an area of the game he does well at, and it’s why the Redskins feel confident moving forward.

The Redskins can expect fewer big gains and fewer negative plays with Kirk Cousins at quarterback.
"He’s a little more of a traditional pocket passer," tight end Logan Paulsen said of Cousins. "He’s more polished in that role."

Griffin’s talent is obvious: It’s not just his athleticism, it’s his arm. The Redskins knew it would take a little time for him to excel in the pocket. There are things he can do that Cousins can’t, or won’t. It’s why, despite all the talk in the last year or so about how coaches like Cousins better, they always stuck with Griffin.

[grampi]

I just don't think he's the team's savior as many others do...

There is literally no one on this site who believes RGIII is "the team's savior". This is why your comments are just trolling.

Apparently there are people who think he is the savior...let me ask you this, why are you so pro-RG3?

[OldSchool]

IMHO the job is Cousins' to lose. We've seen Kirk has the skills to perform in this offense and he has the next 8 weeks or so to settle in and claim the job. Cousins was substantially better running the offense before Griffin got injured and that big gap will continue to grow as Gruden is free to open his play book with Cousins. So I say if Cousins plays well over the next 8-10 games the Skins aren't going play Griffin in 2014 even if Robert is able, why would they?

The big question is can Cousins deliver a steady diet of Dalton like performances. I believe he will and if he does I doubt even Snyder would want to have open competition next spring, what has Snyder or anyone seen from Griffin post injury? The 2013 and 2014 Griffin looks grossly underskilled and fragile compared to Cousins. It is over for Griffin if Cousins performs. Cousins can start a 10-12 year run Sunday, I'd love to see it.

[riggofan]

I just don't think he's the team's savior as many others do...

There is literally no one on this site who believes RGIII is "the team's savior". This is why your comments are just trolling.

Apparently there are people who think he is the savior...let me ask you this, why are you so pro-RG3?

I've never heard anyone call him the savior, ever, so this is just a straw man.

I wouldn't say I'm pro-RGIII. I'll support whomever the coaches decide should be starting. If Gruden tells us that Cousins is the guy who gives us the best chance to win, I'll have no problem with that.

I thought RGIII was incredible in 2012. Personally I was looking forward to seeing if he could get back to that form this year. Just seems crazy to me to completely give up on him because he didn't play well six months after he had ACL surgery.

[Deadskins]

I guess there's just no reasoning with those who wear RG3 colored glasses...

I agree with this. You can not reason with those who are so driven by ulterior motives that they can't give Griffin any credit for anything.

Ulterior motives? If wanting the team to win is an ulterior motive, then yes, I am guilty. And I've given RG3 plenty of credit, I just don't think he's the team's savior as many others do...

I think that's you projecting your feelings onto others. Most here just think he's the better QB, and gives the team the best chance to win any given Sunday.

[SkinsJock]

I just don't think he's the team's savior as many others do...

There is literally no one on this site who believes RGIII is "the team's savior". This is why your comments are just trolling.

Apparently there are people who think he is the savior...let me ask you this, why are you so pro-RG3?

there are many here that see that we are very fortunate to have Cousins - he's a QB that fits the system that Gruden wants to run here

we also can see that of the 2 QBs, Griffin is not at the same level as Cousins right now because it's not a system that he's 'comfortable' with but we and the coaches can see that Griffin has so much more upside - Cousins is good but he's not going to be great

I hope Cousins takes full advantage of this and plays well enough to make it very difficult for Gruden to put Griffin back in there

there is not a doubt in my mind that Griffin will 'win' the starting job back

[grampi]

I think that's you projecting your feelings onto others. Most here just think he's the better QB, and gives the team the best chance to win any given Sunday.

Fair enough. I guess I just don't agree with most people then...

[grampi]

Cousins is good but he's not going to be great

How do you KNOW that? Do you have a crystal ball, or are you a fortune teller?

[SkinsJock]

Grampi - I'll answer that with this - how many knowledgeable NFL people think that Cousins has the talent and the ability to become a better player than Griffin will with time?

We often hear that Griffin has "a lot more upside than Cousins"? why is that?



Cousins can be very good - Griffin has a better chance to become a better NFL QB

we don't know that either will continue on to become really good NFL players - Griffin just has more going for him

I hope that Cousins has a great game each and every week he plays - I'm looking forward to seeing Griffin become the exciting player he can be - Cousins does not look like he's going to be an exciting player

I don't care that Cousins most likely will not be exciting or dynamic - he just needs to be the best he can be

If Griffin becomes the best NFL QB that he can be there's a very good chance that QB will be better than Cousins

now how hard is it for you to follow that ...

[Kilmer72]

http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsbl ... pportunity

Good read

[OldSchool]

Cousins is a HUGE improvement over Griffin who put up 6 points against Houston. Couisins makes Gruden's offense come alive, he's scored 75 points in two starts. The team is far from perfect but with Cousins this team is in the hunt for the division and more.

[hanburgerheel]

Cousins is a HUGE improvement over Griffin who put up 6 points against Houston. Couisins makes Gruden's offense come alive, he's scored 75 points in two starts. The team is far from perfect but with Cousins this team is in the hunt for the division and more.

I agree 100%

[SkinsJock]

I think we all know now that we'll be OK with Cousins ....

I cannot wait to see Griffin ....

[Onlyskins4ever]

Yall some trigger happy idiots...
lets let the actual play book open before we start with this nonsensical drivel. Cousins went vs some poor #2/3s had time all day and Moss vs a rookie?! Sob. Every game we saw griff march downfield, people tend to SEE what their agenda prefers to SEE.. like you two. Hopefully the trade to st louis takes place and Cousins takes his weak ass fans with him, u wont be missed I assure you.

Isn't it clear that the read option offense and the leagues failure to prepare for such an offense made RG3 look like something he is not, a good NFL quarterback?

Yes, with some work RG3 will get better. I and many others no longer wish to wait when we have a guy in Kirk who is obviously light years better in the pocket. The Oline looked better with Kirk because he got rid of the ball faster and didn't panic when the pocket became less than perfect.