Countertrey wrote:Frankly, if they were likely to step up, I think we would have seen something by now.riggofan wrote:PAPDOG67 wrote:Hopefully we can get a few guys from within to step up and fill those roles next season, possibly Compton, LeRibus, and/or Gettis.
Wasted draft picks if we don't!
And yet, what has struck Gruden the most thus far is ...
"How smart he is," Gruden said, in a private moment after Wednesday's OTA practice. "He picked up everything effortlessly. He works hard at it, he studies it, he understands the position, and he's willing to learn and willing to take coaching. A guy with as much success as he's had, as early as he is in this young stage of his life, some guys are like, 'Eh, I don't need your coaching, I don't need this, I wanna do it my way.' He's not that way at all. He wants to be coached, he wants to learn the game, he wants to study.
"He wants to be the greatest. And he knows he has a long way to go, which is refreshing from a guy that's had a Heisman Trophy and as much publicity as he's had. He knows he has work to do, and he's willing to put in the work. That's strikes me as ... I just wasn't expecting that."
"I think the total package you look for in a quarterback, if you're gonna create a player on Xbox, a quarterback, I think it'd look like (Griffin)," Gruden said. "I want a guy that can run 4.4, 4.3. I want a guy that can throw it this far, I want a guy that can scramble in the pocket. I want a guy that's smart enough to handle this, this and this. That's what you want. Now, it's time for him to go out there and do it."
SkinsJock wrote:I like this - Gruden said. "I want a guy that can run 4.4, 4.3. I want a guy that can throw it this far, I want a guy that can scramble in the pocket. I want a guy that's smart enough to handle this, this and this. That's what you want. Now, it's time for him to go out there and do it."
and that is the key - Robert needs to show he's the very special QB that most of us think he is - he has not done that in the NFL yet - the first year's performance was not indicative of what we will see under Gruden and the new OC
Robert needs to take it to another level and he can ...
riggofan wrote:SkinsJock wrote:I like this - Gruden said. "I want a guy that can run 4.4, 4.3. I want a guy that can throw it this far, I want a guy that can scramble in the pocket. I want a guy that's smart enough to handle this, this and this. That's what you want. Now, it's time for him to go out there and do it."
and that is the key - Robert needs to show he's the very special QB that most of us think he is - he has not done that in the NFL yet - the first year's performance was not indicative of what we will see under Gruden and the new OC
Robert needs to take it to another level and he can ...
Nice. Read this quote from McVay today. They plan to let RGIII call some audibles this year:
“He’s done an excellent job translating his knowledge in the meeting room onto the field, recognizing some of those looks. Some of the audible situations we’ll give him the opportunity to call things at the line. He’s shown he’s fully capable of doing it and that’s what gives him a great chance to have success this year.”
Man, I can't wait to see him play this summer. PSYCHED.
PulpExposure wrote:It didn't for me.
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
The Shanahan regime left most of the protection setting to the center, not allowing Griffin much flexibility to change things at the line of scrimmage. While Gruden had his center heavily involved in Cincinnati, he also gave quarterback Andy Dalton the freedom to change the protection, and even the play, at the line of scrimmage if he saw fit.
The Shanahan regime left most of the protection setting to the center, not allowing Griffin much flexibility to change things at the line of scrimmage. While Gruden had his center heavily involved in Cincinnati, he also gave quarterback Andy Dalton the freedom to change the protection, and even the play, at the line of scrimmage if he saw fit.
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
yupchagee wrote:I remember a game 2 yrs ago when his helmet speaker broke. He called the plays & did very well.
I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"
Quarterback Robert Griffin III will work with quarterbacks coach Terry Shea next week. Griffin worked with Shea earlier this offseason for a week, but wanted another tune-up before training camp begins July 24. Shea focused hard on Griffin’s fundamentals, including narrowing his base, getting his feet to turn with his body in the pocket and raising where Griffin held the ball -- at times last year he held it too low, leading to a wind-up throw. Griffin clearly has worked hard this offseason. I'm curious to see how that pays off this summer and during the season. He’s also said to have his explosion back, as has been discussed for a while – as multiple people have talked about seeing a difference in that area. But the real key for him is developing in the pocket. Griffin needs to succeed without that extraordinary explosion, though it certainly does help when defenses fear your legs.
Skepticism over RG III ranking: Last week Mike Sando wrote a terrific piece, ranking quarterbacks based on a poll of executives and coaches and evaluators . Griffin did not fare well, being placed as a tier 3 quarterback tied with Cincinnati’s Andy Dalton. The rankings prompted Kevin Seifert to question why Griffin had fallen so far after just one bad season; he also asked if they had forgotten a record-setting 2012 season. People fall in and out of love quickly in the NFL and I think Griffin is the latest example. Watch how fast opinions change if he gets off to a good start.
Here are the facts as I see them: Griffin dropped into a dysfunctional situation, one that contributed to him being on the field for a career-changing knee injury at the end of his rookie year, and his biggest fault to date has been an inability to prevent the franchise's collapse.
How quickly the league seems to have forgotten about his 2012 performance, which was the single-biggest reason the Redskins qualified for the playoffs for the first time in five years. And look how fast the league has jumped on his 2013 campaign, viewing it as a step back rather than a predictable short-term consequence of his injury -- and the byproduct of a poisonous coaching arrangement that left him as a pawn in a nasty fight between coach Mike Shanahan and owner Dan Snyder.
One head coach in the story doubted Griffin's ability to throw from the pocket. A defensive coordinator also questioned how accurate Griffin can be from there. I wonder if that perception is based on a thorough analysis of his play, or if it's a lazy projection based on the usual assumption that talented runners can't (or don't want to be) accurate pocket passers.
In truth, data shows that Griffin has been one of the NFL's better-performing pocket passers over the past two seasons. According to ESPN Stats & Information, he ranks among the top 11 qualified passers in completion percentage (65.0), touchdown/interception ratio (2.13) and Total Quarterback Rating (65.5) on passes thrown from the pocket during the 2012 and 2013 seasons combined.
Redskins OC Sean McVay said Robert Griffin III "looks like he is exactly what he was in the 2012 season."
"I think people underestimate when you have a brace on your knee how much that truly restricts you," McVay continued. "So I think being able to take that off, he looks extremely explosive."
The knee brace may have played some role, but Griffin's lack of explosiveness last season had much more to do with rushing back from knee surgery. Neither issue should hold Griffin back this season. Griffin is poised for a bounce-back campaign. He has a chance to be a nice value pick at his current late sixth-round ADP.
Source: Washington Post Jul 5 - 10:46 AM
cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Sixth round in FF?? I wanna play in THAT league!!
What's adp? Lol
cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Ya people be like oh Ya he had this terrible season.. and that stats be like Whaaaat the hell u talking about. We didn't win as much but HE played pretty Damn good for the most part.
PulpExposure wrote:cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Ya people be like oh Ya he had this terrible season.. and that stats be like Whaaaat the hell u talking about. We didn't win as much but HE played pretty Damn good for the most part.
So I do agree with you, but a many of his TDs came in garbage time at the end of a few games. We sort of forget how bad he and our offense was in the first few games when the games were competitive; his end stat line for those games looked okay, but those stats were very misleading...
For example, Eagles-Skins in week 1. In the end, RG3 had 329 yards, 2 TDs and 2 INTs. But the Eagles were up 26-7 at half (with that lone Skins TD being the Hall fumble return). By halftime, RG3 had thrown 2 INTs, the Skins also lost a fumble and gave up a safety, and AS A TEAM, had 34 yards on offense. 169 of RG3s yards came in the 4th quarter, with the Eagles nursing a 26 point lead.
So, totally misleading stats.
I'd rather just acknowlege it was a bad year, and look forward to this year and all the work he's putting in.
Briles on RG III: Baylor coach Art Briles watched his former quarterback, Robert Griffin III, work out earlier this week. He saw a guy he used to see with regularity. "I think it's as fresh and uplifting as I've seen him in a long time quite honestly," Briles said on the SiriusXM Blitz Wednesday via Dan Steinberg of the Washington Post. "The thing about ACLs: I've always thought they take a complete year to get over. And I think he rushed himself a little bit, just because that's the way Robert is. He's always going to be determined to do more than is humanly possible."
Briles' prediction? "So I think this year, I do think we'll see a very healthy RG III. I think we're gonna see a guy that's happy playing the game, that has a fire and attitude that you need to have a chance to be successful, because that's who he is."
Revisiting Week 1 2013: Steinberg also wrote about former Redskin Chrisey saying that Griffin should not have started the 2013 opener. It wasn't because of Griffin's health, but rather his readiness. Griffin was cleared by doctors and was ready physically. But it's clear in hindsight he was not prepared to play in an NFL game. Mike Shanahan did a bad job of managing Griffin, from not pulling him in the Seattle game despite his gut feeling to do so and to being afraid of how his moves were perceived by the young quarterback. If you have a conviction on something, do it. Instead, Shanahan did not and instead we got the mess of last December.
