Next Please!

[Countertrey]

After that game, Jay Gruden makes me uncomfortable. Their clock management was sluggish as well.

Cincinnati has a lot of talent on their team too...can't blame it on a bad roster.

This stuff is just silly. Dalton threw three terrible picks in a playoff game, and we're all going to say, "Ok scratch JAY GRUDEN off our list of coaching candidates."??? Come on people. The Bengals were 11-5 division winners in the AFC North, ranked THIRD in the NFL in total offense with a pretty average second round pick at QB. They've been to the playoffs for three consecutive years with Dalton. Let's not be stupid about this.

Kilmer72 I was intrigued by the Cowboys ST coach too, just based on some of the comments about him. I'm like you, really want a fiery, inspiring coach that guys want to play for. I could care less if its a "defensive mind" or an "offensive coach".

Thank you! Dalton choking does NOT equal Gruden-bad-coach. There were multiple chokes on the field... I'd be comfortable with Gruden.

[langleyparkjoe]

This stuff is just silly. Dalton threw three terrible picks in a playoff game, and we're all going to say, "Ok scratch JAY GRUDEN off our list of coaching candidates."??? Come on people. The Bengals were 11-5 division winners in the AFC North, ranked THIRD in the NFL in total offense with a pretty average second round pick at QB. They've been to the playoffs for three consecutive years with Dalton. Let's not be stupid about this.

Kilmer72 I was intrigued by the Cowboys ST coach too, just based on some of the comments about him. I'm like you, really want a fiery, inspiring coach that guys want to play for. I could care less if its a "defensive mind" or an "offensive coach".

Thank you! Dalton choking does NOT equal Gruden-bad-coach. There were multiple chokes on the field... I'd be comfortable with Gruden.

..just to add.. Dalton has been up and down all year. When he was up, he was really up and when he was down.. well, you all saw for yourselves.
I have ZERO problems if Gruden is our next coach.

[SkinsJock]

I have no problem with a lot of the guys that are being considered

the key here is going to be getting the most out of the players and having accountability for your jobs both as coaches and as players

hopefully the next guy can manage that - he's going to need a pretty thick skin to be able to handle everything that goes on here - this is BS rumor central of the USA

being Head Coach of the Washington Redskins is a high profile job - it might not be as 'attractive' as the Detroit job right now but it will be a lot higher profile if he has success

[UK Skins Fan]

I have little doubt that Bruce and his team are evaluating coaches based on the whole body of their work and their performance at the interviews. Nobody is getting crossed off the list because their team didn't win one game, or because their quarterback played poorly.

[SkinsJock]

^^^ +1 - this FO is going to be very thorough - this is not like anything we've been through here

this is a search for a head coach that will have big ramifications for both the FO and the franchise

everyone involved is on the hot seat and the FO is going to have to answer for anything that they turn up after the fact and should have been checked out ...

this is a huge opportunity for this franchise and I think all these guys are very aware of all that entails

[Jeremy81]

countertrey...you have me quoted as saying something I didn't say...all I said was that game didn't help grudens candidacy. and it didn't. in no way did I suggest that we should "scratch gruden off the list of candidates". but a horrible 4th and 3 playcall and a subpar performance against a mediocre charger defense should be noted

[SkinsJock]

countertrey...you have me quoted as saying something I didn't say...all I said was that game didn't help grudens candidacy. and it didn't. in no way did I suggest that we should "scratch gruden off the list of candidates". but a horrible 4th and 3 playcall and a subpar performance against a mediocre charger defense should be noted

OK - it's 'noted' - what does that have to do with his credentials or his resume? - that game did not hurt his candidacy in any way

The guy is being considered for a HC job based on his ability and talent to do that job

btw - the Chargers are not a "mediocre' D

[riggofan]

countertrey...you have me quoted as saying something I didn't say...all I said was that game didn't help grudens candidacy. and it didn't. in no way did I suggest that we should "scratch gruden off the list of candidates". but a horrible 4th and 3 playcall and a subpar performance against a mediocre charger defense should be noted

OK - it's 'noted' - what does that have to do with his credentials or his resume? - that game did not hurt his candidacy in any way

The guy is being considered for a HC job based on his ability and talent to do that job

The guy is being considered and will interview for FOUR head coaching jobs. That playoff game certainly didn't hurt his profile, and it helped his candidacy more than sitting home after NOT making the playoffs like Jim Caldwell.

[Jeremy81]

countertrey...you have me quoted as saying something I didn't say...all I said was that game didn't help grudens candidacy. and it didn't. in no way did I suggest that we should "scratch gruden off the list of candidates". but a horrible 4th and 3 playcall and a subpar performance against a mediocre charger defense should be noted

OK - it's 'noted' - what does that have to do with his credentials or his resume? - that game did not hurt his candidacy in any way

The guy is being considered for a HC job based on his ability and talent to do that job

btw - the Chargers are not a "mediocre' D

Chargers are 23rd in total years allowed. 29th against the pass, 12 against the run. 13 in points allowed. I'm sorry, you're right. Theyre awesome. Lets just sweep that game under the rug now

[riggofan]

countertrey...you have me quoted as saying something I didn't say...all I said was that game didn't help grudens candidacy. and it didn't. in no way did I suggest that we should "scratch gruden off the list of candidates". but a horrible 4th and 3 playcall and a subpar performance against a mediocre charger defense should be noted

OK - it's 'noted' - what does that have to do with his credentials or his resume? - that game did not hurt his candidacy in any way

The guy is being considered for a HC job based on his ability and talent to do that job

btw - the Chargers are not a "mediocre' D

Chargers are 23rd in total years allowed. 29th against the pass, 12 against the run. 13 in points allowed. I'm sorry, you're right. Theyre awesome. Lets just sweep that game under the rug now

Either way, the "subpar performance" hardly reflects on Jay Gruden. The Bengals put up 450 yards of offense to the Chargers 300. They were even up 10-7 at the half. They didn't lose because of the play calling. They lost because Dalton had THREE horrible turnovers.

I don't mean to harp on this, but I watched that game and its mind boggling to read your comments. Dalton's INTs were just AWFUL. Maybe enjoy some afternoon reading before you continue to pursue this line of opinion:

"Andy Dalton to Blame for Bengals loss to Chargers"
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footb ... -1.1567193

"Cincinnati is too good to let Andy Dalton blow another season"
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/01/cincinn ... dy-dalton/

"Andy Dalton implodes; Chargers on to divisional round - NFL.com"
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... onal-round

"Andy Dalton flops again as San Diego Chargers rally past Cincinnati ..."

"Andy Dalton fumbles, Chargers recover - San Diego Chargers"

"Andy Dalton's playoff woes continue in loss to Chargers - SB Nation"

"Andy Dalton Meltdown Dooms Bengals - Business Insider"

"Another Bengals playoff flop puts heat on Andy Dalton (0-3) and ..."

[SkinsJock]

slow down Jeremy - you got 'caught' - grow up

The Chargers are not a great D but the Bengals had not lost a game at home and it is very clear to most of us that their OC is a good candidate for HC

that game does not impact his standing as far as who is available at all - actually it helps because he's now available for interviews

get over it

[Countertrey]

countertrey...you have me quoted as saying something I didn't say...all I said was that game didn't help grudens candidacy. and it didn't. in no way did I suggest that we should "scratch gruden off the list of candidates". but a horrible 4th and 3 playcall and a subpar performance against a mediocre charger defense should be noted

Yeah... my apologies... the chain of quotes got screwed up... I have fixed it.

You're still off base on Gruden, though...

[Jeremy81]

"Jay Gruden, Bengals Game Plan Deserve Blame for Cincinnati's Early Playoff Exit"
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1911 ... ayoff-exit

Jay Gruden, your Play Calling is Terrible
http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/?p=1669

"Bengals did not run enough vs. Chargers"
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_ ... s-chargers

"Multiple Chargers tell me Bengals did NOTHING offensively that they hadn't prepared for. No tweaks, no surprises- @AKinkhabwala

"So, did the Bengals run enough against the Chargers on Sunday?

Running back BenJarvus Green-Ellis says "no."

and if it does all fall on andy Dalton....then

Report: Mike Brown liked Kaepernick, Jay Gruden wanted Dalton
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ed-dalton/

Dalton, Kaepernick and the 2011 NFL draft
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_ ... -nfl-draft

"Jay Gruden, the younger brother of former Raiders and Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden, seems to be more likely than Zimmer to get the promotion. Still, shouldn’t at least some portion of the failure of Andy Dalton to develop into a franchise quarterback be assigned to his offensive coordinator?-nbc sports"

[Jeremy81]

slow down Jeremy - you got 'caught' - grow up

The Chargers are not a great D but the Bengals had not lost a game at home and it is very clear to most of us that their OC is a good candidate for HC

that game does not impact his standing as far as who is available at all - actually it helps because he's now available for interviews

get over it

what does this mean? I got caught? grow up? no idea what you're talking about...how am I being a child because we disagree?

[SkinsJock]

... all I said was that game didn't help grudens candidacy. and it didn't. in no way did I suggest that we should "scratch gruden off the list of candidates".
but a horrible 4th and 3 play call and a subpar performance against a mediocre charger defense should be noted

WRONG - there is nothing of 'note' to be taken from what Gruden did during this game ...

Jay Gruden has established himself as one of the top candidates for HC job by what he has done over the past few years

this game was only his last game for the Bengals is all ...

we hear that he's having dinner with Bruce tonight - hopefully he's one of the final 3

[Jeremy81]

... all I said was that game didn't help grudens candidacy. and it didn't. in no way did I suggest that we should "scratch gruden off the list of candidates".
but a horrible 4th and 3 play call and a subpar performance against a mediocre charger defense should be noted

WRONG - there is nothing of 'note' to be taken from what Gruden did during this game ...

Jay Gruden has established himself as one of the top candidates for HC job by what he has done over the past few years

this game was only his last game for the Bengals is all ...

we hear that he's having dinner with Bruce tonight - hopefully he's one of the final 3

well that answered absolutely none of my questions...but thanks for letting me know they're having dinner tonight!

[cowboyhater4life]

So far the candidates are:
Update 1/7

Cowboys Special teams coordinator Rich Bisaccia (interviewed)
Vanderbilt Head Coach James Franklin
Ravens offensive coordinator Jim Caldwell (interviewed)
Panthers defensive coordinator Sean McDermott (interviewed)
Seahawks offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell (interviewed)
Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell (interviewed)
Bengals offensive coordinator Jay Gruden
Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer
49ers defensive coordinator Vic Fangio
49ers offensive coordinator Gregg Roman

[Jeremy81]

So far the candidates are:
Update 1/7

Cowboys Special teams coordinator Rich Bisaccia (interviewed)
Vanderbilt Head Coach James Franklin
Ravens offensive coordinator Jim Caldwell (interviewed)
Panthers defensive coordinator Sean McDermott (interviewed)
Seahawks offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell (interviewed)
Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell (interviewed)
Bengals offensive coordinator Jay Gruden
Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer
49ers defensive coordinator Vic Fangio
49ers offensive coordinator Gregg Roman

I'm surprised ken wisenhunt or todd bowles aren't on that list...do you know why? or it just hasn't been reported yet?

[Skins Fan in Indy]

So far the candidates are:
Update 1/7

Cowboys Special teams coordinator Rich Bisaccia (interviewed)
Vanderbilt Head Coach James Franklin
Ravens offensive coordinator Jim Caldwell (interviewed)
Panthers defensive coordinator Sean McDermott (interviewed)
Seahawks offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell (interviewed)
Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell (interviewed)
Bengals offensive coordinator Jay Gruden
Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer
49ers defensive coordinator Vic Fangio
49ers offensive coordinator Gregg Roman

I understand that it doesnt or shouldn't matter if they are offense or defensive minded coaches when it comes to a HC but IMO it should be someone with a defensive background. I like McDermott and Zimmer to be quite honest with you. I would also be ok with them going outside the box with Bisaccia or Franklin. When Franklin was at Maryland I just got the feeling that he was a special coach.

[riggofan]

So far the candidates are:
Update 1/7

Cowboys Special teams coordinator Rich Bisaccia (interviewed)
Vanderbilt Head Coach James Franklin
Ravens offensive coordinator Jim Caldwell (interviewed)
Panthers defensive coordinator Sean McDermott (interviewed)
Seahawks offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell (interviewed)
Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell (interviewed)
Bengals offensive coordinator Jay Gruden
Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer
49ers defensive coordinator Vic Fangio
49ers offensive coordinator Gregg Roman

I'm surprised ken wisenhunt or todd bowles aren't on that list...do you know why? or it just hasn't been reported yet?

I'm pretty sure they requested to interview Whisenhunt.

[chiefhog44]

I think ultimately I would like to see Wisenhunt here. Seems like a quality coach and very good with QB's. He took Arizona to the Super Bowl for crying out loud. That is a feat in itself.

[StorminMormon86]

Whisenhunt is pretty much guaranteed the Lions job (or so I've heard) unless he doesn't want it.

[riggofan]

I think ultimately I would like to see Wisenhunt here. Seems like a quality coach and very good with QB's. He took Arizona to the Super Bowl for crying out loud. That is a feat in itself.

I like Whisenhunt too, but you're really whitewashing his stint in Arizona. He went to the Super Bowl and did pretty well with Kurt Warner. His last three years without Warner though were pretty much a disaster:

2010: 5-11
2011: 8-8
2012: 5-11

He finished with an 11 game losing streak in 2012. His QBs during that time: Matt Leinart, Derek Anderson, Max Hall, Rich Bartel, John Skelton, Kevin Kolb, Ryan Lindley and Brian Hoyer. The Kolb trade is especially noteable. I'm not sure that track record is looks much better than what we got from Mike Shanahan, are you?

[SkinsJock]

Jay Gruden is in as HC ... out

[riggofan]

Jay Gruden is in as HC ... out

Did I call this three weeks ago, SJ?