Jay Gruden ... Top Candidate

[spudstr04]

@NBCdianna reports that Bruce and #Redskins honchos are having dinner w/ Jay Gruden. The most logical of the non previous HC candidates.


Wining & Dining!

[spudstr04]

@NBCdianna 5m

Bruce Alllen made it very clear during his meeting with me and other reporters. RG3 will not have any say in the hiring of the next coach.


Why does the Skins' brass feel it necessary to say this?

Stafford has been in on HC interviews this offseason. I don't think that RG3 should have a huge say, but what does it hurt for him to be in the know about who they are going to hire? He's currently in Hawaii, enjoying time with his wife.

[SkinsJock]

.. Bruce Alllen made it very clear during his meeting with me and other reporters. RG3 will not have any say in the hiring of the next coach.
Stafford has been in on HC interviews this offseason. I don't think that RG3 should have a huge say, but what does it hurt for him to be in the know about who they are going to hire? He's currently in Hawaii, enjoying time with his wife.

there's a huge difference in RG3 talking with a potential HC at this time or just before the FO makes a decision ...

that is obvious

[welch]

Snyder needs to stop making things difficult for the coaches and players ... especially RG3

I don't think all the BS reports about he and RG3 are true but any contact away from the field between the owner and players is not at all good

the problem is that the coaches and other players are not really sure what is going on between Dan Snyder and RG3 - this is not good
you just know that the 'reports' about the relationship are going to be blown way out of proportion

the HC has to have absolute authority and that is undermined by Dan's interference by meeting with RG3 no matter what the 'excuse' is

RG3 needs to show his team and his coaches where his absolute loyalties lie - any form of 'friendship or association' with Dan Snyder is going to hurt that

we have potential HCs coming in for interviews and if they are going to have a QB that is 'tight' with the owner, that would be a huge concern

The Detroit job is a much better deal than the Redskins only because of Dan Snyder - we would be a really great place to work if Dan would stop interfering

Detroit is also a better job because Martin Mayhew, Redskin corner back, is the GM.

[StorminMormon86]

I don't think Snyder is a reason why people wouldn't want to come coach here. He practically let Shanahan have carte blanche for four years...what coach wouldn't welcome that?

[Bishop Hammer]

Would rather see a guy that makes more with less. Gruden's Bengals offense is filled with talent. Not tough for them to make him look good.

See Josh McDaniels after The Patriots broke the scoring record, back in 07.

[riggofan]

@NBCdianna 5m

Bruce Alllen made it very clear during his meeting with me and other reporters. RG3 will not have any say in the hiring of the next coach.


Why does the Skins' brass feel it necessary to say this?

This is just a perception thing, mainly because of all the negative BS things that have been written about RGIII lately by creeps like Sally Jenkins. RGIII doesn't need everybody continuing to portray him as the team diva.

I don't know about you guys, but I personally don't see getting feedback on a potential coaching hire from your franchise QB as a bad thing. I'm not saying RGIII should be vetting and suggesting candidates or that he should have veto power, but wouldn't you want to know before you hired a coach if there were potential problems? Not only would I talk to RGIII, but I would be talking to any other players who may have played for these coaches or respected guys like London Fletcher who have been around a long time. Get all of the information you can!!!

Its ultimately Allen and Snyder's decision, but I completely disagree that players can't or shouldn't have any input.

[SkinsJock]

It would be stupid to hire a HC (or an OC) and not let that guy meet with RG3 before actually signing him to a contract ...

it is critical that RG3 have that meeting ...

the perception that some are trying to portray is that RG3 has any actual say in who is being hired - he's just meeting with his next boss is all

the way the Lions are doing it with Stafford is stupid on their part

RG3 will only meet with the finalists and maybe only the guys that the FO are going to hire

that make complete sense to me

we would be lucky to get Jay Gruden as I'm sure he will be good for RG3 and for this franchise

he will need to figure out how to keep Snyder away from RG3

[SkinsJock]

If the FO really wants Jay Gruden then they should make him the HC before he leaves today ...

if Jay Gruden is their 'top candidate' then we need to get on with getting the other assistants nailed down as well

we need to hire Jay Gruden as HC .... today

[riggofan]

It would be stupid to hire a HC (or an OC) and not let that guy meet with RG3 before actually signing him to a contract ...

it is critical that RG3 have that meeting ...

Exactly. We gave away three high picks for this guy to be our franchise QB. It would be insane if we're not doing everything possible for him to be successful.

[Bishop Hammer]

If Gruden is hired, for the love of all thats good in the world, do not make Morris DC!

[Chris Luva Luva]

I'd like to see Danny Smith be the HC. My second choice is the OC for SEA.

I don't want anyone that has ties to the coaching staff here. Danny is the exception because has that "dont give a f***" attitude.

If Gruden is hired, for the love of all thats good in the world, do not make Morris DC!

Why not? What has he done that's been so terrible since being here? He, like Haz has been given garbage to work with. No true NT which is key for the 3-4 defense. He hasn't been given any safeties to work with. And he's coached Amerson up really well.

[riggofan]

I'd like to see Danny Smith be the HC. My second choice is the OC for SEA.

I've heard that one a few places lately. Not disagreeing with you, but it kind of cracks me up. People were ready to string Danny Smith up a couple years back for the bad ST play, weren't they???

[riggofan]

Just a couple interesting recent bits on Jay Gruden.

Mark Maske tweet

One NFL source on Jay Gruden and Redskins: "I think he's their first choice." Others within league suspect same thing.

Roanoke Times "Is Jay Gruden The Guy?"
http://www.roanoke.com/sports/redskins/ ... 0f31a.html

He’s the splashiest hire available, he’s involved in an anonymously-sourced quarterback dispute with his owner, and he’s got teams lining up to talk to him....

Griffin has indicated he wants to play a more traditional brand of offense, which is what Gruden teaches and believes in.

Post Insider
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/foo ... uce-allen/

Update, 8:50 a.m.: One person familiar with the matter said there is sentiment that Gruden has emerged as the front-runner for the Redskins’ coaching job.

“I think he’s their first choice,” the person said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment publicly on the team’s or Gruden’s behalf.

But even if that is the case, it does not ensure that Gruden and the Redskins will strike a deal. Gruden has other opportunities and could proceed to his scheduled interview Thursday with the Vikings. Another person with knowledge of the matter did not rule out Gruden being hired by the Redskins but cautioned that both sides might be inclined to complete the interviewing process.

[Chris Luva Luva]

I'd like to see Danny Smith be the HC. My second choice is the OC for SEA.

I've heard that one a few places lately. Not disagreeing with you, but it kind of cracks me up. People were ready to string Danny Smith up a couple years back for the bad ST play, weren't they???

I'm sure I complained but I didn't want him gone. I like his attitude and his demeanor. The players played for him. That's what we're missing here. And I think coaches would come to work under him. He wouldn't take Snyders BS. And I think he has enough humility to put folks in place to assist him.

Just my thoughts.

[riggofan]

I'd like to see Danny Smith be the HC. My second choice is the OC for SEA.

I've heard that one a few places lately. Not disagreeing with you, but it kind of cracks me up. People were ready to string Danny Smith up a couple years back for the bad ST play, weren't they???

I'm sure I complained but I didn't want him gone. I like his attitude and his demeanor. The players played for him. That's what we're missing here. And I think coaches would come to work under him. He wouldn't take Snyders BS. And I think he has enough humility to put folks in place to assist him.

Just my thoughts.

No doubt, seems like a good dude. I was just surprised to hear his name coming up for the HC job. He's put in a LOT of years in Washington already. Three different coaches. Did he choose to leave for Pittsburgh on his own or was he forced out?

[Chris Luva Luva]

No doubt, seems like a good dude. I was just surprised to hear his name coming up for the HC job. He's put in a LOT of years in Washington already. Three different coaches. Did he choose to leave for Pittsburgh on his own or was he forced out?

Word on the street was that he didn't like the direction Shanny was taking the team in. In addition, previous coaches would allow Danny to use some of their prime players to bolster the teams unit. He'd also have a say-so in retention of players during cuts. Mike assumed full control and provided crap players... So the ST's failure wasn't just on the new coach, Mike caused that too. Danny was smart enough to bail.

[SkinsJock]

I think the next HC will do a better job than Mike but I was never a really big fan of his egotistical way of handling himself and his players ...

the problem here is going to continue to be Dan Snyder until he realizes how much he's hurting the franchise by meddling with it

I'm hopeful but not sure that Snyder can stop ...

[Chris Luva Luva]

I think the next HC will do a better job than Mike but I was never a really big fan of his egotistical way of handling himself and his players ...

the problem here is going to continue to be Dan Snyder until he realizes how much he's hurting the franchise by meddling with it

I'm hopeful but not sure that Snyder can stop ...

He can't but as suggested by John Kiem in his most recent article, the new HC has to learn how to manage/manipulate Snyder. He said that Gibbs thus far has done the best job.

[riggofan]

He can't but as suggested by John Kiem in his most recent article, the new HC has to learn how to manage/manipulate Snyder. He said that Gibbs thus far has done the best job.

What???? I posted that exact comment about Gibbs/Snyder on here yesterday. Okay, which one of you on here is John Keim? I think Keim is lurking and ripping me off...

New Insider piece on Jay Gruden today:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/foo ... e-numbers/

This part jumped out at me:

Gruden wanted to bring Sean McVay with him to Cincinnati to coach wide receivers, but Redskins didn’t want to let McVay, who at the time was an offensive assistant, get away. They promoted him to tight ends coach.

I knew Gruden had some history with a few of the assistants the team retained, but didn't know that one. I don't know if this is a done deal or not, but is there any doubt the team has been favoring this guy pretty strongly for a while?

[Chris Luva Luva]

He can't but as suggested by John Kiem in his most recent article, the new HC has to learn how to manage/manipulate Snyder. He said that Gibbs thus far has done the best job.

What???? I posted that exact comment about Gibbs/Snyder on here yesterday. Okay, which one of you on here is John Keim? I think Keim is lurking and ripping me off...

I knew Gruden had some history with a few of the assistants the team retained, but didn't know that one. I don't know if this is a done deal or not, but is there any doubt the team has been favoring this guy pretty strongly for a while?

No, it's a great point and insight on both of your parts. I give Gibbs hell for his second tenure but he deserves more credit than what I gave him credit for. The game hadn't passed him by as much as I said. I was wrong, but he like everyone else here was sabotaged by a poor foundation laid by Snyder.

[riggofan]

Here is a quote from that piece CLL is talking about. Really good stuff, worth checking out the whole blog.

http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-reds ... der-snyder

1. Whoever the new coach is must know how to deal with owner Dan Snyder. I don’t mean that in a negative way, either. But there is an art to dealing with any owner. Marty Schottenheimer, for example, did not like to clue Snyder in on all that he wanted to know. He wanted to just worry about coaching. That’s fine, except that you need to understand your boss. This one likes to be informed. It’s his team; inform him.

2. Joe Gibbs was a master at this. You could see it during his four seasons, how he massaged Snyder and Vinny Cerrato’s egos during news conferences, etc. Made them feel like they were giving invaluable input all the time. Gibbs also knew when to let Snyder “win;” in other words, he knew when to pick his battles. Gibbs also knew Snyder idolized him. Who didn't?

3.As one person from that staff once said, “That way, when it came time to pick his fights with Dan, he’d get what he wanted. He managed Dan well.”

That, my friends, is out how you deal with the "meddling" owner.

[riggofan]

I give Gibbs hell for his second tenure but he deserves more credit than what I gave him credit for. The game hadn't passed him by as much as I said. I was wrong, but he like everyone else here was sabotaged by a poor foundation laid by Snyder.

Yeah I was disappointed in Gibbs 2.0 at the time and pissed at Snyder for trotting one of our heroes out there like that in the first place. But in hindsight I have to give Gibbs the same credit for getting as much done as he did, at least in terms of winning.

My frustration with him was that he didn't come in and straighten out the franchise and Snyder the way I had hoped. I still think we may eventually end up giving Shanahan some credit for that.

[spudstr04]

One source says Jay Gruden seems to prefer Titans to Redskins. That source has been told Redskins might make offer that's tough to refuse.

I don't like the fact that we would have to "overpay" him to change his mind. If he wants Titans job, let him go. He doesn't want to be here.

[Hooligan]

One source says Jay Gruden seems to prefer Titans to Redskins. That source has been told Redskins might make offer that's tough to refuse.

I don't like the fact that we would have to "overpay" him to change his mind. If he wants Titans job, let him go. He doesn't want to be here.

Same here, unless he's on the fence and we're just nudging him our way. I want someone who wants to coach the Washington Redskins.