SkinsJock wrote: +1 also OK - I am going to try and not react so strongly to all the BS 'reports' and 'theorizing'- it really is laughable what some have come up with
What's even more funny is when you hear reports "from a Bleacher Report source". Quoting a Bleacher Report writer should be grounds for termination
They pretty much allow anyone off the internet to be "writers". Sad.
TRUE...
wait a minute... I'm a Bleacher Report writer....
"That's a clown question, bro"
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"But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have"
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Wow, the level of denial here is oof the chart .. really boys, with this much smoke, you all are continuing this "what fire? There is no fire!" ????
Virtually everyone outside the organization is coming forward with information ... many credible and some not necessarily viewed as credible, yet telling of the same stories.
Now, if you all wanted to, you could check my comments made when the McNabb drama unfolded, and I called that as a Kyle Shanahan created mpess back then. He was also responsible for bringing in Beck and Grossman from Houston. He effed up all three.
Now it is being revealed that Kyle isn't highly regarded by too many at Redskin park, but enjoys an unusual level of power and autonomy than what most OC's enjoy. It's inevitable to conclude that being the HC's son may explain some of that. And most sources claim that the relationship between Kyle and Robert is not the close one that would be desirable. Furthetmore, while not true across the board (excepting Turner), Kyle does have several young assistents (read: inexperienced) working under him, and while we have seen a lack of progress in fixing obvious problems with RG3's mechanics, whether that is because he is being difficult to coach, or the coach is not experienced enough to deal with such a high profile, and perhaps a tempermental player ... there is clearly a major problem there, and it has combined to create a nasty mess.
Given the errors with past QBs, i'd tend to give Robert the benefit of doubt here, but not so fast as to dismiss some culpability on his part too ... and that of his father, and Snyder. I can see a bit of prima dona in some of his behavior, none the least of which was that mic'ed comment he made to alf after the cowboys game ...."they haven't been able to win the division in 15 years, and we did it in the first year' or something to that effect.
Then you have guys that usually don't say much, like Moss, suggesting that RG3 just neefs to take responsibilty, rather than point fingers ... comments from Garcon, and reports of other lockerroom issues that may or may not be entirely accurate ... Robert could be a problem here too.
But for the QBs dad to be endorsing son's former college coach as a desirable replacement for the coach that has not yet left or been fired ... that screams of a BIG TIME ISSUE. What does dad and son say in private that might be affecting his respect for his current coaches, and their ability as well as Robert's willingness to learn and be coached?
There is a fire causing all this smoke ..... whether anyone insists on denying the obvious or not.
SkinsJock wrote: +1 also OK - I am going to try and not react so strongly to all the BS 'reports' and 'theorizing'- it really is laughable what some have come up with
What's even more funny is when you hear reports "from a Bleacher Report source". Quoting a Bleacher Report writer should be grounds for termination
They pretty much allow anyone off the internet to be "writers". Sad.
TRUE...
wait a minute... I'm a Bleacher Report writer....
Except you then
"I'm trying to be as honest as I can; I don't normally do that." -Mike Shanahan
RayNAustin wrote:Wow, the level of denial here is oof the chart .. really boys, with this much smoke, you all are continuing this "what fire? There is no fire!" ????
Virtually everyone outside the organization is coming forward with information ... many credible and some not necessarily viewed as credible, yet telling of the same stories.
Now, if you all wanted to, you could check my comments made when the McNabb drama unfolded, and I called that as a Kyle Shanahan created mpess back then. He was also responsible for bringing in Beck and Grossman from Houston. He effed up all three.
Now it is being revealed that Kyle isn't highly regarded by too many at Redskin park, but enjoys an unusual level of power and autonomy than what most OC's enjoy. It's inevitable to conclude that being the HC's son may explain some of that. And most sources claim that the relationship between Kyle and Robert is not the close one that would be desirable. Furthetmore, while not true across the board (excepting Turner), Kyle does have several young assistents (read: inexperienced) working under him, and while we have seen a lack of progress in fixing obvious problems with RG3's mechanics, whether that is because he is being difficult to coach, or the coach is not experienced enough to deal with such a high profile, and perhaps a tempermental player ... there is clearly a major problem there, and it has combined to create a nasty mess.
Given the errors with past QBs, i'd tend to give Robert the benefit of doubt here, but not so fast as to dismiss some culpability on his part too ... and that of his father, and Snyder. I can see a bit of prima dona in some of his behavior, none the least of which was that mic'ed comment he made to alf after the cowboys game ...."they haven't been able to win the division in 15 years, and we did it in the first year' or something to that effect.
Then you have guys that usually don't say much, like Moss, suggesting that RG3 just neefs to take responsibilty, rather than point fingers ... comments from Garcon, and reports of other lockerroom issues that may or may not be entirely accurate ... Robert could be a problem here too.
But for the QBs dad to be endorsing son's former college coach as a desirable replacement for the coach that has not yet left or been fired ... that screams of a BIG TIME ISSUE. What does dad and son say in private that might be affecting his respect for his current coaches, and their ability as well as Robert's willingness to learn and be coached?
There is a fire causing all this smoke ..... whether anyone insists on denying the obvious or not.
I agree with that Ray. The problem is only Redskins park truly knows whats bull and what isn't. I am not Kyle hater though. I have no idea what the truth is. All I know is we have 3 wins. I never liked Mike but I felt he should be here next year to finish this until all the leaks started. That I can't forgive him for. IMO he should have denied it right when it happened even if it was true and if it wasn't still deny it. Just my
ey was asked what the best scenario would be for next year. He said something like Mike should return but the ST coach gone and DC he wasn't sure but said maybe gone. Then he asked what he thought was likely. He said he thought Mike would be gone.
Neo wrote:What's even more funny is when you hear reports "from a Bleacher Report source". Quoting a Bleacher Report writer should be grounds for termination
They pretty much allow anyone off the internet to be "writers". Sad.
TRUE...
wait a minute... I'm a Bleacher Report writer....
Except you then
I'm actually just a THN Blogger... once, BR linked to one that I had written... I don't even remember what it was about!
"That's a clown question, bro"
- - - - - - - - - - Bryce Harper, DC Statesman
"But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have"
- - - - - - - - - - Dewey Bunnell, America
Countertrey wrote:I'm actually just a THN Blogger... once, BR linked to one that I had written... I don't even remember what it was about!
LOL nice one! You got me pretty good on that; felt like an @$$
Countertrey is extremely mean and has no sense of humor. NOT!!!
Back on topic...
Briles might have been a good option if we had a stable FO (one that has been here a long time) and people to help him succeed and if it didn't make it look like Robert was behind it.
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ey was asked what the best scenario would be for next year. He said something like Mike should return but the ST coach gone and DC he wasn't sure but said maybe gone. Then he asked what he thought was likely. He said he thought Mike would be gone.