Skins are shopping Fred Davis....

Hooligan · Post by **Hooligan** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:39 pm

I don't follow the Bills that closely, is Jarius Byrd that good, or is he just better than what we have? Is he good enough to not worry about the position for a few years?

If he's good enough to be THE MAN, I think Davis and a 4th is a no-brainer.

With this likely being Fletcher's last year, we need to draft a GOOD MLB on top of other team needs, all without a 1st round pick. There are too many holes to turn down getting a guaranteed starter out of a 4th round pick and a player that's leaving anyway.

Kilmer72 · Post by **Kilmer72** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:57 pm

Hooligan wrote:I don't follow the Bills that closely, is Jarius Byrd that good, or is he just better than what we have? Is he good enough to not worry about the position for a few years?

If he's good enough to be THE MAN, I think Davis and a 4th is a no-brainer.

With this likely being Fletcher's last year, we need to draft a GOOD MLB on top of other team needs, all without a 1st round pick. There are too many holes to turn down getting a guaranteed starter out of a 4th round pick and a player that's leaving anyway.

GOOD MLB's are usually 1st rounders. Yeah, that is a huge concern though.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:59 pm

He's good. Lead the league in interceptions his rookie year and made the Pro Bowl that year and 2012. I'm spelling his name wrong btw, its Jairus.

Probably a total pipe dream but I did think it was interesting if it was remotely possible. Its not just the 4th round pick of course. You'd have to be confident that you could re-sign him next year.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:12 pm

riggofan wrote:He's good. Lead the league in interceptions his rookie year and made the Pro Bowl that year and 2012. I'm spelling his name wrong btw, its Jairus.

Probably a total pipe dream but I did think it was interesting if it was remotely possible. Its not just the 4th round pick of course. You'd have to be confident that you could re-sign him next year.

- we shall see

I have every confidence that the FO we have now has the smarts to figure out what's the best move ... and we have a place that most good guys will want to come to

HTTRRG3ALMO · Post by **HTTRRG3ALMO** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:58 pm

We've all heard that Davis has been missing a lot of routes in practice. A Hogster said, I'd like to see him & Reed on the field together.

There's plenty of pros & cons either way.

If we trade Fred and get something from him, we'll all be glad to have it once we read later he got suspended again.

Paulson can block well and can catch. So maybe him & Reed together are our combination.

I don't think we should get too upset if we do trade Fred; hate to say it, but he's probably going to get himself in trouble again in the near future.

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:40 am

Kilmer72 wrote:
Hooligan wrote:I don't follow the Bills that closely, is Jarius Byrd that good, or is he just better than what we have? Is he good enough to not worry about the position for a few years?

If he's good enough to be THE MAN, I think Davis and a 4th is a no-brainer.

With this likely being Fletcher's last year, we need to draft a GOOD MLB on top of other team needs, all without a 1st round pick. There are too many holes to turn down getting a guaranteed starter out of a 4th round pick and a player that's leaving anyway.

GOOD MLB's are usually 1st rounders. Yeah, that is a huge concern though.

what about Perry Riley? I think this FO can find someone good in the middle rounds.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:40 am

Byrd is solid. I would love to see a Davis - Byrd trade.

Kilmer72 · Post by **Kilmer72** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:13 am

yupchagee wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
Hooligan wrote:I don't follow the Bills that closely, is Jarius Byrd that good, or is he just better than what we have? Is he good enough to not worry about the position for a few years?

If he's good enough to be THE MAN, I think Davis and a 4th is a no-brainer.

With this likely being Fletcher's last year, we need to draft a GOOD MLB on top of other team needs, all without a 1st round pick. There are too many holes to turn down getting a guaranteed starter out of a 4th round pick and a player that's leaving anyway.

GOOD MLB's are usually 1st rounders. Yeah, that is a huge concern though.

what about Perry Riley? I think this FO can find someone good in the middle rounds.

I'm sure you can find one somewhere, but one of them has to be better than average and I am not so sure Perry Riley is better than average. IMO

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:24 pm

Kilmer72 wrote:
yupchagee wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
Hooligan wrote:I don't follow the Bills that closely, is Jarius Byrd that good, or is he just better than what we have? Is he good enough to not worry about the position for a few years?

If he's good enough to be THE MAN, I think Davis and a 4th is a no-brainer.

With this likely being Fletcher's last year, we need to draft a GOOD MLB on top of other team needs, all without a 1st round pick. There are too many holes to turn down getting a guaranteed starter out of a 4th round pick and a player that's leaving anyway.

GOOD MLB's are usually 1st rounders. Yeah, that is a huge concern though.

what about Perry Riley? I think this FO can find someone good in the middle rounds.

I'm sure you can find one somewhere, but one of them has to be better than average and I am not so sure Perry Riley is better than average. IMO

Perry Riley is far better than average. Can't access meaningless stats to support right now, so will resort to anecdote. Please remind me of the last time his name was called out as being out of position, missing a tackle he should have had or was so badly burned in coverage you we're embarrass for him. All of these, I hate to admit, have happened to fletcher in last 1.5 years. Riley is better than solid.

Kilmer72 · Post by **Kilmer72** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:39 pm

emoses14 wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
yupchagee wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
Hooligan wrote:I don't follow the Bills that closely, is Jarius Byrd that good, or is he just better than what we have? Is he good enough to not worry about the position for a few years?

If he's good enough to be THE MAN, I think Davis and a 4th is a no-brainer.

With this likely being Fletcher's last year, we need to draft a GOOD MLB on top of other team needs, all without a 1st round pick. There are too many holes to turn down getting a guaranteed starter out of a 4th round pick and a player that's leaving anyway.

GOOD MLB's are usually 1st rounders. Yeah, that is a huge concern though.

what about Perry Riley? I think this FO can find someone good in the middle rounds.

I'm sure you can find one somewhere, but one of them has to be better than average and I am not so sure Perry Riley is better than average. IMO

Perry Riley is far better than average. Can't access meaningless stats to support right now, so will resort to anecdote. Please remind me of the last time his name was called out as being out of position, missing a tackle he should have had or was so badly burned in coverage you we're embarrass for him. All of these, I hate to admit, have happened to fletcher in last 1.5 years. Riley is better than solid.

I have nothing against Perry Riley. If you say he is far better than average then ok. I am hoping for a hall of famer then. It would be nice to get someone on the level of Antonio Piece or Fletcher (younger) or someone on that level.

Kilmer72 · Post by **Kilmer72** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:04 pm

If we can get anyone that is productive for Sleepy I am happy. I always thought Cool

ey was better anyway. Maybe now we found Mr Clutch in Reed.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:38 pm

Kilmer72 wrote:
emoses14 wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
yupchagee wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
Hooligan wrote:I don't follow the Bills that closely, is Jarius Byrd that good, or is he just better than what we have? Is he good enough to not worry about the position for a few years?

If he's good enough to be THE MAN, I think Davis and a 4th is a no-brainer.

With this likely being Fletcher's last year, we need to draft a GOOD MLB on top of other team needs, all without a 1st round pick. There are too many holes to turn down getting a guaranteed starter out of a 4th round pick and a player that's leaving anyway.

GOOD MLB's are usually 1st rounders. Yeah, that is a huge concern though.

what about Perry Riley? I think this FO can find someone good in the middle rounds.

I'm sure you can find one somewhere, but one of them has to be better than average and I am not so sure Perry Riley is better than average. IMO

Perry Riley is far better than average. Can't access meaningless stats to support right now, so will resort to anecdote. Please remind me of the last time his name was called out as being out of position, missing a tackle he should have had or was so badly burned in coverage you we're embarrass for him. All of these, I hate to admit, have happened to fletcher in last 1.5 years. Riley is better than solid.

I have nothing against Perry Riley. If you say he is far better than average then ok. I am hoping for a hall of famer then. It would be nice to get someone on the level of Antonio Piece or Fletcher (younger) or someone on that level.

Keenan Robinson was suppose to be that young LB taken in the draft, that could sit behind Flecther for a year or two and learn from him. HOWEVER, he's landed on IR on what appears to be Flecther's final two seasons, so I'm not sure how far along he'll be come next year.