gushogs wrote:The way things are going with the politically correct terms, the new name will be the Washington ______, so it won't affect a soul in the whole wide world. And then, ten years from now, the _______ people will want a name change!!! GO REDSKINS HaiL,
The only "safe" names are the Hoya's, Hokies & Hoosiers. Nobody knows what they are.
Skins fan since '55
"The constitution is not a suicide pact"- Abraham Lincoln
can't be "Eagle Killers" -- it's illegal to kill eagles.
jeez, just keep it Redskins and be done with it!!!
As I've said on this board before, Miami of Ohio's name was Redskins but under pressure a few years back, they changed it to the RedHawks...just doesn't have the ring to it.
riggofan wrote:Your whole argument is patently whack.
I'd love to see what polls you're citing as evidence btw. From what I can tell, polls limited to Native Americans have been kind of all over the place and rare, and the most recent one was from like 2004.
Not to mention the fact that polls aren't conclusive evidence of anything. Just ask Karl Rove and President Mitt Romney.
Exactly how is my argument "whack?" No, the polls haven't been all over the place. They have consistently shown that only a small minority of Indians feel the term "Redskins" to be offensive. Just because Rove tried to spin poll results in Romney's favor, doesn't make the polling numbers inaccurate. Go back and look at this thread from the election where DarthMonk was following Nate Silver's 538 polling predictions which, as it turned out, were dead on accurate.
BTW, do you know how the Redskins' current logo of the Indian head came into being? Would it surprise you to know that it was designed by, and put on the helmets at the request of, Indians? The logo was added in 1972 at the request of Walter Wetzel, president of the National Congress of American Indians, and chairman of the Blackfoot tribe. He said, "I'd like to see an Indian on your helmets. It made us all so proud to have an Indian on a big-time team... It's only a small group of radicals who oppose those names. Indians are proud of Indians."
Say what?? I never knew this. Why isn't this being brought up in the media????!! This whole one-sided reporting is sickening. Hopefully all of this will come to light as it appears the media is strictly on a smear campaign to have their 15 minutes.
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
What i think will mandate a name change is the NFL worriing about thier TV ratings. It won't be an order from congress, no bunch of disgruntled protesters or do-gooders marching around fedex stadium.
The final decision will be made by the leage vice president in charge of marketing and some polls that she will trot out to support her stand.
They will never come out and admit it but i believe that is what will take place.
oj wrote:What i think will mandate a name change is the NFL worriing about thier TV ratings. It won't be an order from congress, no bunch of disgruntled protesters or do-gooders marching around fedex stadium. The final decision will be made by the leage vice president in charge of marketing and some polls that she will trot out to support her stand. They will never come out and admit it but i believe that is what will take place.
I can not see that happening - NO WAY
The NFL is not about to try and influence the Washington franchise about the team name in ANY WAY - COMPLETELY off base thinking there
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
oj wrote:What i think will mandate a name change is the NFL worriing about thier TV ratings. It won't be an order from congress, no bunch of disgruntled protesters or do-gooders marching around fedex stadium. The final decision will be made by the leage vice president in charge of marketing and some polls that she will trot out to support her stand. They will never come out and admit it but i believe that is what will take place.
I can not see that happening - NO WAY
The NFL is not about to try and influence the Washington franchise about the team name in ANY WAY - COMPLETELY off base thinking there
+1
Even Skins hater Roger supports us on this 1.
Skins fan since '55
"The constitution is not a suicide pact"- Abraham Lincoln
