Are the Redskins becoming more of a Virginia based team?

KERRAKPO9198 · Post by **KERRAKPO9198** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:34 pm

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread. ... based-team

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-lock ... post995118

http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/2/22/4018 ... based-team

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showth ... based-team

http://www.hailredskins.com/vbforum/sho ... hp?t=55005

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/v ... p?t=514689

With the news that the Redskins will be keeping their corporate headquarters in Ashburn, VA and will be moving their training camp to Richmond, VA starting next season, are the Redskins becoming more of a Virginia based team as opposed to a DC or Maryland team? The Governor of Virginia Bob McDonnell and the Mayor of Richmond, VA Dwight Jones seem to think just that...

http://www.wtop.com/41/2707175/DC-vs-Va ... e-Redskins

D.C. vs. Va. - A battle over the Redskins?
WASHINGTON - Mayor Vincent Gray has made no bones about wanting the Washington Redskins to be more closely attached to D.C.

And now a politician in Loudoun County is reacting.

County Supervisor Shawn Williams wrote a letter to Redskins owner Dan Snyder last week thanking him for continuing to keep the Redskins practice facility in Ashburn.

Williams also re-opened the possibility of building a Redskins hall of fame in Loudoun. The Loudoun County Board of Supervisors had previously rejected a similar proposal because of concerns about the use of taxpayer money on the project.

Gray, speaking on WTOP's "Ask the Mayor" program in November, said "we have had discussions with people who are associated with the team."

He said they would like to have the Redskins' training facility in D.C.

At an event last week, Va. Gov. Bob McDonnell couldn't resist taking a jab about the Redskins practicing in Virginia, when he said to Gray, "I didn't wear my Virginia Redskins jacket."

McDonnell was remarking on Md. Gov. Martin O'Malley wearing a Baltimore Ravens jacket in support of that team's making the playoffs.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcspor ... edski.html

"Not only is [Redskins football] marvelous entertainment, not only do we live and die with that Sunday afternoon Redskins game, but we also understand what you bring to the Commonwealth of Virginia," McDonnell said, via Redskins.com. "We know you have a D.C. link, we know you play on Sundays in Maryland, but we know you spend most of your time in Ashburn, Virginia. We're very grateful and excited about that."

http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events ... 97965fe2fa

Speaking about Virginia’s successful effort to retain Redskins corporate headquarters, and the accompanying expansion of the team’s training facility, as well as the Redskins decision to further the team’s relationship with the Commonwealth by making plans to relocate its annual summer training camp in Richmond starting in 2013, Governor McDonnell noted, “Virginia considers the Redskins our team. The team is based here. The team trains here. The players live here. Virginians root for the Redskins on the field, and off the field the team contributes greatly to the economy and culture of the Commonwealth. Virginia is committed to keeping the Redskins right here in our state for years to come, and today we’ve taken a significant step towards accomplishing that goal. This is a positive and exciting development for football fans from Loudoun County to Richmond to Virginia Beach. It will mean more jobs in our state, and more revenue for state and local coffers. More than anything, it means Virginia will remain ‘Redskins Country.’ In the years ahead I look forward to visiting the new expanded training facility in Loudoun County, and watching the team practice right here in our state capital of Richmond.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc- ... _blog.html

“We’ve actually been in contact with them for quite some time,” Dwight Jones said on Richmond’s ESPN 950. “And actually, the coach really wanted to expand the footprint of the team. They really want to be a Virginia team, and so they really kind of pushed this thing along, even to the point of not having an exact location. They’re signed on for eight years. They have some very specific requirements. We’re gonna meet ‘em. We’re gonna make it happen.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66vT6OGEjMY Virginia Governor Bob McDonell and Richmond, VA Mayor Dwight Jones press conference to announce Virginia deal with the Redskins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0YpY9uIXDM Richmond, VA is Redskins Country.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_ ... 110880.jpg Virginia Redskins

Richmond Training Center Construction Begins
Leaders from the City of Richmond, Bon Secours Virginia Health System and the Washington Redskins broke ground on the Bon Secours Washington Redskins Training Center Thursday.
http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/v ... 6de04365ac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKwnEZB1r-4 Virginia Day 1960 in Redskins Stadium

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8_AOZY18N4 Virginia Day 1961 in Redskins Stadium

http://blog.redskins.com/2012/05/22/80t ... -thursday/

Other planned destinations for the Redskins’ 80th Anniversary Bus Tour include:
- May 25: Shenandoah County, Va. (Strasburg High School, Central High School, Stonewall Jackson High School and the Shenandoah County Relay for Life);
- June 2: Virginia Beach, Va., and Williamsburg, Va.;
- June 7: Portsmouth, Va. (Virginia Sports Hall of Fame Reception);
- June 8: Norfolk, Va., and Chantilly, Va. (VHSL Group AAA Spring Jubilee);
- June 9: Richmond, Va.;
- June 16: Falls Church, Va. (State Elks Convention);
- June 21: Harrisonburg, Va. (State Eagles Convention);
- July 4: Washington, D.C.; and
- July 20: Roanoke, Va. (Subway Commonwealth Games)

http://washingtonexaminer.com/rick-snid ... le/2521862

So what's Plan B? Virginia couldn't complete a deal with Cooke in 1992 despite a news conference at Potomac Yards. Richmond lawmakers aren't keen on spending money for a stadium on its border with Washington as the team's name. However, the team's relocation of training camp to Richmond beginning this summer will soften opposition should it remain in the Virginia capital past the 2020 deal.

Potomac Yards is no longer viable, but sources said there are available sites if a deal is made in coming years.

KERRAKPO9198 · Post by **KERRAKPO9198** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:48 pm

Per Taylor36 over at EXTREMESKINS from this thread... http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread. ... um-will-be

They already are. My brother-in-law, who works for Jim Cheng, the Secretary of Commerce for the Commonwealth, told me around Christmas that Virginia has already put together a delegation to work with Snyder and his top brass to get them to build their stadium within the borders of the Virginia (the exact location is still one factor being negotiated). Supposedly, a lot of ground work has been laid already, and verbally behind closed doors, most of a deal has already been done. I guess there are a few factors/issues that need to be ironed out (like location) before stuff starts to move towards paper, and he said some of that will not be cleared up until after November 5 of this year, the date of the VA gubernatorial election. Also, there is a leasing issue that the team has to take care of. But, he said that the thought is a deal could be reach and construction started that may take several years to complete (no need to rush) and could allow for an easy (cheaper) contract breach on the Redskins part.

KERRAKPO9198 · Post by **KERRAKPO9198** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:24 pm

It only makes sense that the Redskins would build a new stadium in Virginia. Why compete for fans with Maryland who has the Baltimore Ravens? The Redskins should further their ties with the great state of Virginia. The most business friendly state in America, lower taxes than DC or Maryland, more people in Virginia than DC or Maryland. It's time for Virginia to stake claim to the Skins.

Why not rename them the Virginia Redskins as well?

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:50 pm

Um... No.
Build a stadium there I coud care less, but never Virginia anything (much less taking the skins!!) Sounds terrible, regardless how great the place is.

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:52 pm

For the record- I live in the "land of enchantment" but the New Mexico Redskins sound like crap too

burgngold4life · Post by **burgngold4life** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:12 am

I think it'd be cool if ABQ had a team.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:20 am

KERRAKPO9198 wrote:Why not rename them the Virginia Redskins as well?

NO - the Washington Redskins can play and practice in VA, MD, DC or PA - they will ALWAYS be the Washington Redskins

how come the 2 teams from NY are not called the NJ jets and NJ giants

KERRAKPO9198 · Post by **KERRAKPO9198** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:54 pm

Who here would like to see the Redskins playing on Sundays somewhere in the great state of Virginia? All in favor say aye.

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:09 pm

KERRAKPO9198 wrote:Who here would like to see the Redskins playing on Sundays somewhere in the great state of Virginia? All in favor say aye.

I'm in favor of keeping the name (and city) the same. As for where they play- it doesn't matter. I'm in favor of winning.

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:10 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
KERRAKPO9198 wrote:Why not rename them the Virginia Redskins as well?

NO - the Washington Redskins can play and practice in VA, MD, DC or PA - they will ALWAYS be the Washington Redskins

how come the 2 teams from NY are not called the NJ jets and NJ giants

Arlington pukes... There's a lot of teams that have their stadium in a different city then their name.

We aren't the Landover Redskins- and shouldn't be.

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:16 pm

burgngold4life wrote:I think it'd be cool if ABQ had a team.

O fo sho! Even though I'm a diehard skins fan, and bleed b&g... I'd never support ruining the franchises history with a move, and more importantly name change.
The Burque (bood Kay) Lobos otoh I'm good with! Lmao

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:19 pm

like the man said - it doesn't matter where the players live OR the team practices OR the stadium is located ... in this area
this franchise is going to be the Washington Redskins

KERRAKPO9198 · Post by **KERRAKPO9198** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:44 pm

I know there's got to be some Virginians in here that would like to see the Redskins playing football on Sundays in the state of Virginia?

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:25 pm

Who care where they play, as long as it's in the DMV... though, frankly, they should be working to find a STADIUM in DC... which is, btw, where they earned the right to participate in 5 Superbowls.

And... you are WRONG about Maryland being Ravens territory... Parts of Maryland are Ravens territory... Parts of Maryland are Steelers territory... Parts of Maryland are Eagles territory... and, obtw... parts are Redskins country. More of it will be Redskins country next year, when the Ravens are at home,a nd the Redskins will still be playing.

Surrender NOTHING to the crows.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:42 pm

KERRAKPO9198 wrote:I know there's got to be some Virginians in here that would like to see the Redskins playing football on Sundays in the state of Virginia?

I'm from VA and yes it's Redskins country. To be honest, I'd prefer to see the team play in Washington DC. But, yes. I prefer Virginia over Maryland any day of the week. 295 is always backed up. And Route 50 out of DC is a nightmare on game days. Not to mention that there's nothing in walking distance of the stadium as far as a cool commercial area to enjoy the atmosphere around the stadium. I prefer a DC move.

But, an area of VA like Chantilly, Leesburgh or even near Ashburn would be cool too. I don't know where in Arlington you could fit a stadium, so I doubt that would work. It would have to be far enough out not to create any more of a cluster.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:16 pm

I understand the thought but the reality of having the Washington Redskins name changed is just not happening ..

plus .. The Virginia Redskins sounds really horrible

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:34 pm

The Hogster wrote:I'd prefer to see the team play in Washington DC.

+1

KERRAKPO9198 · Post by **KERRAKPO9198** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:57 pm

SkinsJock wrote:I understand the thought but the reality of having the Washington Redskins name changed is just not happening ..

plus .. The Virginia Redskins sounds really horrible

Virginia Redskins sounds great to me.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:01 am

KERRAKPO9198, welcome to the site... please take some time to visit The Rules thread in the Site News and Welcome Wagon forum.

KERRAKPO9198 · Post by **KERRAKPO9198** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:02 am

http://cippinonsports.com/wp-content/up ... an-map.jpg Virginia is Redskins Country

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md28h ... 1_1280.jpg NFL TV market map

KERRAKPO9198 · Post by **KERRAKPO9198** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:39 pm

IMO the Redskins would be smart to build a new stadium in Virginia, anywhere in Virginia. They could either keep the name Washington Redskins or change the name to the Virginia Redskins. Either way they'll have a large fan base, if they changed their name to the Virginia Redskins they would gain some new fans, although they would lose some fans as well, it would all probably equal out. I seriously doubt they ever do this but regardless, the majority of their fan base resides in Virginia, the Redskins ARE Virginia's team, the Ravens are primarily Maryland's team. The Redskins are smart by keeping there training facility and headquarters in VA as well as moving their practice facility into VA and strengthening their ties with VA. Why fight for fans in Maryland with the Ravens when you can stake claim to Virginia, which is a much larger state with more people?

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:37 pm

Redskins are the capitol of the USAs team, not Virginia's. By that token I feel they are the TRUE "Americas Team." To me the self anointed pukes are not just the enemy, but the evil team with poor character pre madanna druggies and cheaters. The Redskins are their nemisis and for ever arch rivals. When they beat the pukes the "good guys" win....
That said, America's team can reside anywhere, but should forever remain the Washington Redskins.
IF they were stupid enough to become the Virginia _______s (surely wouldn't be the redskins, we are in a constant battle to just keep it as it is/should be) I would most likely never buy anything with that teams name on it.
Changing the name to Virginia would spell the death of the fan base. That would cut all ties to our past glory and end the franchise. Virginia isn't big enough to be the fanbase... Even with RGiii, they would slowly fade in to nothing. Without him, you couldn't sell out a game- much less the longest in history (or close).

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:45 pm

I feel this should be ended with a good ol: "Come on maaaaan," with a suiting picture of ignorance....

Hogster, you got this??

SKINS#1 · Post by **SKINS#1** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:28 am

Move the Redskins to VA? YES

It should be located away from the N Va/DC traffic area, going 20-25 miles from DC would help.

I have been to 1 game since the Redskins moved to Md. only because it is a nightmare to get in/out with acceptable parking.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:37 am

SKINS#1 wrote:Move the Redskins to VA? YES

It should be located away from the N Va/DC traffic area, going 20-25 miles from DC would help.

I have been to 1 game since the Redskins moved to Md. only because it is a nightmare to get in/out with acceptable parking.

This is so funny, I was about to say just the opposite. I don't want the stadium to move because where it is right now is too convenient for me since I live in Southern MD. They stadium is just so easy to get in and out of and once you are out of the parking lot you face traffic better than you would on a week day.

Of someone thinks that FedEx has bad traffic then they either don't know any other route than the Beltway or they like to park too close to the stadium. Also, traffic in NoVa is always worse than traffic in MD. A small event like a convert at Jiffy Lube Live is much harder to get in and out of than FedEx and that has about 1/4 of the people trying to leave.

I like the fact that the team plays in Md, but frankly I have always considered anything inside the capital beltway DC! Heck the stadium is less than 4 miles from the DC border and less than 9 miles from RFK.

For those of you that say there is nothing within walking distance of the stadium you are dead wrong. There is a shopping center (not counting Landover Mall) lessee than 1.5 miles from the stadium and that is certainly in walking distance. There are two subway stations within walking distance for those that don't want to find an alternate route than the beltway.

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