Trade Healthy Knee for Big Finsh/NFC East Title?

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:16 pm

Suppose putting Griff on IR after the Raven game would have meant an 8-8 finish with no playoffs and an RGIII at 100% right now.

The question is this: Would you trade our big finish for a healthy knee?

Not trying to incite any flames. Not trying to asses blame. Just wondering where the community stands.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:25 pm

Give me the healthy knee.

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:25 pm

i think he had a problem left from the first acl, so this could have possibly been a blessing in disguise. at the time of course, knowing what we know now. I would have sat him and went in and made sure the knee was good back then...

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:55 pm

Give me the healthy knee choice as long as that choice INCLUDES the Dr Andrews knee 'building' operation

now that we know the operation in 2009 was NOT as good as it could have been, we (RG3 and the franchise) are VERY fortunate to have had the opportunity to 'address' this and make the knee 'stronger'

I think that we're VERY fortunate that the knee is not going to be an issue going forward

I think they should have taken RG3 out in the early part of the Seahawks game - he was OBVIOUSLY not 100%

BUT

I'm really glad that Dr Andrews went in and did the operation to make that knee 'better' than it was

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:56 pm

Hindsight being 20-20... I find this a specious query...

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:26 pm

Countertrey wrote:Hindsight being 20-20... I find this a specious query...

Who was it that said hindsight is 50-50? I remember.

I see we have a vote for the strong finish. It's not my view but the position can be defended. It'd be interesting to read that defense.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:32 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
Countertrey wrote:Hindsight being 20-20... I find this a specious query...

Who was it that said hindsight is 50-50? I remember.

I see we have a vote for the strong finish. It's not my view but the position can be defended. It'd be interesting to read that defense.

Spurrier said it once... but I think he stole it... :wink:

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:35 pm

We got both. His knee will be better after this rehab. But I voted healthy knee.

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:09 pm

The Hogster wrote:We got both. His knee will be better after this rehab. But I voted healthy knee.

+ 10-6

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:50 pm

This is what it comes down to after being gone for a week?

Hindsight??
What a rediculous theory that can be. There is no hindsight coulda shoulda. He coulda NOT twisted the F out of his healing knee vs the seapigeons on the second td drive, smoked them, healed a little more, won the superbowl, then had it repaired after the MVP speech and still be the badass he's gonna be.
Resting him vs cle was smart.. him being 2-0 vs the pukes is an awesome highlight to the season. Being the NFC east champs is a thrill we've not had in a long time., and how would we have known if his knee was still hurt? Didn't he drop something like 79 yards vs Dallas? Playing it safe even! He looked stellar on the first two drives vs the birds too.
To say we should've put him on ir after Baltimore is just not right imo. Pull him 2nd half vs sea? Absolutely.
The fact he may be better off then before, and he won the conference championship, is icing on the cake to sweeping the pukes, sending them and maras boys home early, and going 10-6.
Displaying his heart, passion, drive, and will to carry this team is all but inspiring. Coupled with his recovery, this team should be lifted and in debt to rgiii. The motivation to play for their captain will be at an all time high, and we shouldbe beasts next year.
Can't change the past, and the positves lookt to be out weighing the negative...

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:52 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
Countertrey wrote:Hindsight being 20-20... I find this a specious query...

Who was it that said hindsight is 50-50? I remember.

I see we have a vote for the strong finish. It's not my view but the position can be defended. It'd be interesting to read that defense.

How'd I do?
Ya miss me? Lmao :twisted:

jmooney · Post by **jmooney** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:12 am

I still believe the injuries he had at the end of the season occured right there in that play against the Ravens. My eyes tell me no way was that just a sprain.

We may never know what happened behind the scenes. Did doc say it was better to reconstruct a complete tear rather than repair a partial?

No matter what, I believe RG3 was having surgery this off season after that hit. I need surgery just watching it. It was'nt a healthy knee after that and the fact that we finished 10-6 was a testament to the rest of the team. I dont think benching him the rest of the year changed what was going to happen with Roberts knee one way or the other.

ACW · Post by **ACW** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:29 am

All I know is, anytime a 330-340 lb person hurts your knee, you're gonna need surgery :lol:

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:43 pm

I wouldn't change it because we'd have to endure an offseason of whining and crying. That I cannot take.

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:05 pm

Big finish v the Ravens

markshark84 · Post by **markshark84** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:27 pm

It's sort of a double edged sword.....

Had we not had the push at the end, I doubt this team would have the momentum going into the offseason that we have.

But a healthy knee is a healthy knee.

If RGIII comes back and plays as well as he would have without the injury, then it doesn't matter. I worry that he won't have the pure speed he showed this past year, but time will tell. I hope he does!

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:36 pm

Momentum??

this team just won the NFC East - we're very likely going to be favorites to win it again

the play of the whole team is responsible for that

who knows what might or might not happen ..

most here are fairly sure that the surgery was 'good' in that it gave Dr Andrews an opportunity to make something 'better' that he might not have done if no surgery had happened - we also think that RG3 will continue to be as effective as he was in both running and passing in this new offense

NOTHING is guaranteed - Russell Wilson might not be as good at running next season as he was this season .... who really knows

better to look at the positives :twisted:

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:16 pm

SkinsJock wrote:Momentum??

this team just won the NFC East - we're very likely going to be favorites to win it again

the play of the whole team is responsible for that

who knows what might or might not happen ..

most here are fairly sure that the surgery was 'good' in that it gave Dr Andrews an opportunity to make something 'better' that he might not have done if no surgery had happened - we also think that RG3 will continue to be as effective as he was in both running and passing in this new offense

NOTHING is guaranteed - Russell Wilson might not be as good at running next season as he was this season .... who really knows

better to look at the positives

Where are you guys getting the notions that his knee will be better than ever after the surgery. Have I been asleep?

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:30 pm

NOTHING is "for sure"

RG3 had an operation on this same knee in 2009 - that ligament was given an 'upgrade' by Dr Andrews, 2 weeks ago - this ligament may have given RG3 some 'issues' down the road - there is a feeling that, given a really great rehabilitation of this knee, the knee may actually be "better" than it was if we had not had the operation

NO BIG DEAL - RG3 has olympic class speed - he could even be a little "slower" and still be faster than most players

we're all hopeful that everyone has learned a lot from this - the Redskins should be even better offensively based solely on that

I think that both Alfred Morris AND Robert Griffin III will be physically stronger from the off season workout program :lol:

gibbsfan · Post by **gibbsfan** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:16 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:Give me the healthy knee.

the Future is everything ..healthy knee wins here

the big finish was weet but......get well RG 3.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:58 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
I think that both Alfred Morris AND Robert Griffin III will be physically stronger from the off season workout program

I have a feeling that Alfred Morris is going to come back in incredible shape, with plans to go beast mode, fully amped.

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