Any and All News About RG3's Knee - Merged

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:16 pm

Hope he plays in the Pro Bowl!

too soon? O:)

HTTRRG3ALMO · Post by **HTTRRG3ALMO** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:18 pm

Countertrey wrote:Hope he plays in the Pro Bowl!

I personally wish they'd just get rid of the pro bowl. A little off topic but still think its a waste; they don't even try to play

too soon?

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:21 pm

threeflight wrote:6-8 months? Really? Really??

Well...

Dr James Andrews wrote:"Robert Griffin III had successful knee surgery early this morning. He had a direct repair of his LCL and a re-do of his previous ACL reconstruction. We expect a full recovery and it is everybody's hope and belief that due to Robert's high motivation, he will be ready for the 2013 season.

"The goal of his treatment is to give him the best opportunity for a long professional career."

Maybe...

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:28 pm

^^^ I actually didn't say that! :wink:

but... I DO remember Sean Taylor "trying" in the Pro Bowl!

HTTRRG3ALMO · Post by **HTTRRG3ALMO** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:34 pm

Countertrey wrote:^^^ I actually didn't say that!

but... I DO remember Sean Taylor "trying" in the Pro Bowl!

Strange. Not sure why it didn't post my reply after your comment. I'm feeling a sense of unlimited power now

Kidding

LOL that's hilarious with Sean. People were probably like "dude wtf its the PRO BOWL!!" HAHAHAHA

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:39 pm

Actually... that's exactly what they were saying! Except for the punter, who was thrilled that he took the best ST had to offer... and lived!

HTTRRG3ALMO · Post by **HTTRRG3ALMO** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:41 pm

Countertrey wrote:Actually... that's exactly what they were saying! Except for the punter, who was thrilled that he took the best ST had to offer... and lived!

If only we could find another ST

GoodOldDays · Post by **GoodOldDays** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:44 pm

SkinsJock wrote:the kid is VERY special and if AP can do it I have every faith that RG3 will be fine too - this kid is an Olympic level athlete

If the issue comes down to work ethic I think we all know Robert will be perfectly fine. He'll do whatever he's supposed to .. and more.

My understanding is that one of the reasons Peterson came back so quickly and so strong is that his knee joint was remarkably clean other than the tear - no issues with cartilage damage, etc. If Griffin doesn't have any of those problems leftover from the first injury I think he'll be good to go.

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:49 pm

RayNAustin wrote:Am I the only one willing to look beneath the surface, or scrutinize this official "narrative"?

No.

It was a long post but I thought it was pretty well reasoned and I admire you for writing it. I think it belongs in another thread but whateva. I think Shanny has done a lot of good things for the team but ... well ...

smh

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Trolls are coming out of the WOODWORK.....!!!

HTTRRG3ALMO · Post by **HTTRRG3ALMO** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:04 pm

Don't forget they'll probably be putting him on medical steroids to speed the recovery.

Not to join the chorus of "little doctors" but when I tore my plantars fascia nothing was working short of surgery. I had to get minor knee surgery for a separate issue and they put me on steroids on and off over a two month period. Healed up just fine and I'm a very slow healer

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:53 pm

Nice merge. Thanks.

GoodOldDays · Post by **GoodOldDays** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:00 pm

Reports are that Andrews used a patellar tendon graft from Griffin's left knee to fix the ACL.

gibbsfan · Post by **gibbsfan** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:22 pm

tribeofjudah wrote:Trolls are coming out of the WOODWORK.....!!!

Thats why I'm laying low with all the RG news.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:50 am

Looks like even the White House has an opinion...White House press secretary Jay Carney said Wednesday he did not know if President Obama, who has followed the Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III’s season, had reacted to the star player’s post-season-ending knee injury.

But Carney, who is a Redskins fan, said he was watching the game and he called the quarterback’s leg injury “painful to watch.”

“I’m not a football coach but it sure seemed like as remarkable a player as he is, he was not in position to continue playing,” Carney said at his daily White House briefing.

After reporters chuckled, Carney, who sometimes sits in owner Daniel Snyder’s box at FedEx Field, added: “I just got myself in trouble.”

Carney said that a day earlier, someone had forwarded him a tweet from the satirical news site The Onion that said Shanahan had cleared Griffin to “carry furniture.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/09/jay-carney-reacts-to-rgiii-knee-injury/?wprss=rss_social-politics-rss&Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:50 am

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Don't forget they'll probably be putting him on medical steroids to speed the recovery.

Not to join the chorus of "little doctors" but when I tore my plantars fascia nothing was working short of surgery. I had to get minor knee surgery for a separate issue and they put me on steroids on and off over a two month period. Healed up just fine and I'm a very slow healer

Oh great. Steriods, PEDs.......Goodahell is sure to levy fines and suspension on RGIII

HTTRRG3ALMO · Post by **HTTRRG3ALMO** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:22 am

tribeofjudah wrote:
HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Don't forget they'll probably be putting him on medical steroids to speed the recovery.

Not to join the chorus of "little doctors" but when I tore my plantars fascia nothing was working short of surgery. I had to get minor knee surgery for a separate issue and they put me on steroids on and off over a two month period. Healed up just fine and I'm a very slow healer

Oh great. Steriods, PEDs.......Goodahell is sure to levy fines and suspension on RGIII

Offseason use and not anabolic

Mississippiskinsfan2 · Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:22 am

DarthMonk wrote:Nice merge. Thanks.

+1

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:32 am

TimSkin wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:This is just hyperbole and speculation so dont take it to seriously. I am just thinking what ifs here.
But what if Griffin already tore the ACL back at the Ravens game? They have the MRI results were he is going to require surgery.
RG3 says to the doctors and coaching staff that he wants to keep playing if he is going to have to have surgery anyways. So the Doctor and team put out a false report saying no structural damage.

Remember when we beat the Ravens we still had a couple of games to win. The playoffs was not a sure thing until the end of the season.

RG3 tore his ACL in college during a game. He returned to play the same game plays later.

I am thinking he tore it that day. The Ravens game and Ngatas hit. He decides to just keep going this season knowing that he is going to have to have surgery anyways.

Just speculating here so take it easy. I am just saying what if.

I know you're speculating but I highly doubt if ANY coaching staff would be that stupid even though the Chargers did it during the playoffs with Rivers; RG3 is a rookie, the season wasn't over, and we still had a ways to go before locking up a playoff seed at the time. That would be like putting 5 bullets in a revolver and playing russian roulette.

The difference between RG3 and Rivers is that Rivers' ACL was completely torn already so he couldn't damage his ACL any more (of course he could damage the rest of his knee - cartilage, meniscus, and other ligaments), while RG3 could have damaged further. We know his ACL wasn't completely torn since it wasn't completely torn when they operated on it.

I would wager that there was some damage done to the ACL in the Raven's game but it was minor, but that is just a WAG.

In hind sight wish we had rested him at least one more game, but who knows if that would have helped. Shanny could have pulled him after the second TD in the CHawks game and the damage may have already been done. Maybe not to the same extent, but to the point where it would have required surgery.

That is the point to all of this, no one really knows anything. Heck the Drs and coaching staff weren't sure of anything. Even they were guessing. They were making an educated guess, but it was still a guess.

All we truly know is Robert will be in for a painful frustrating off season. He would have been better able to prepare for next season if he want doing rehab.

I just hope, anyone but the Redskins' training staff oversees his rehab, because I don't trust them as far as I can throw Roseanne Barr. Duplicate

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:40 am

skinsfan#33 wrote:I just hope, anyone but the Redskins' training staff oversees his rehab, ...

Agreed.

Good post overall. +1

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:42 am

I'd be very surprised if Danny and Mike are not looking very closely at the medical & physical members of this franchise

This franchise can afford to have Dr Andrews on the sidelines and yet, it seems to me, he's not really able to do what he should

- over the past few years, there are other instances as well here that it seems the strength and conditioning guys have not done a very good job

are these guys the same old guys or are they new?

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:46 am

As I understand it and I do NOT have a clue ...

RG3 had the operation at Dr Andrews' Florida facility and is staying there for the initial 2 months BECAUSE that period is VERY critical to the rehab process

I THINK

cleg · Post by **cleg** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:37 am

SkinsJock wrote:I'd be very surprised if Danny and Mike are not looking very closely at the medical & physical members of this franchise

This franchise can afford to have Dr Andrews on the sidelines and yet, it seems to me, he's not really able to do what he should

- over the past few years, there are other instances as well here that it seems the strength and conditioning guys have not done a very good job

are these guys the same old guys or are they new?

They let Orakpo back in the Rams game - was the damage done before that or after? RG3, we know the deal there.

Player, most specifically, new Pro Bowler LL30 complained loudly about the Redskins training staff. Heck, they did not think that maybe CR22 had problems with his eyes. I agree 100% - keep these wacko's away from RG3 and let him work with the real experts.

DaSkinz Baby · Post by **DaSkinz Baby** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:46 pm

I believe the whole medical staff should be replaced and I think Dr. Andrews should be involved in the hiring of new personel, Orakpo had the same injury last year that he reinjured this year, and so did Ray Lewis but we see the difference. I also think that when RG3 was injured in the Raven's game he should have been put on IR. Seriously because what grade 1 strain get's worse 1 month after the fact. Mike Shanahan may have believed RG3 wasn't as injured as he was or made a bad decision, in any event what's done is done and we can't go back now. We can only go further and hope Snyder brings in new medical people and gives Dr. Andrews more lead way and hope that Snyder also does something with the field at FEDEX Field, it was embarrassing what happened to the Bermuda Grass that was once a staple there during the early years??? Isn't this team worth more than green mud??? Heck RFK never had turf that messed up.

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:05 pm

P-E-R-S-P-E-C-T-I-V-E

Because Robert’s patellar tendon in his right knee was used to perform his initial ACL reconstruction the patellar tendon in his uninjured left knee had to be used to create a new ACL. This means the pain he will have to withstand will be doubled and nearly equal for both knees.

Ouch.

His parents told me that upon awakening, feeling the searing pain in both knees, he was immediately alerted to the extent of his injury and the magnitude of his surgery.

Ouch. Ouch.

When rehabbing his right knee after the initial ACL reconstruction, which I performed in 2009, the physical therapists and athletic trainers spent the bulk of their time trying to slow Robert down.

The work ethic, determination and drive that he has will make regaining his strength a non-issue. He could realistically be ready for the regular-season opener, but I’m sure a conservative approach will be employed when determining the timing for his return to play.

No pressure, no diamonds.

Next season, I would not be surprised if he is named Comeback Player of the Year

I intentionally left off the rest of that last sentence because, honestly, Super Bowl next year seems far fetched. . .