spudstr04 wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/09/report-robert-griffin-iii-out-6-8-months-with-complete-acl-lcl-tears/
Mort is reporting a 6-8 month recovery! Dr. Andrews believes that he should be able to return before the start of next season! My birthday was yesterday and this is a great present, if he can rehab and come back healthy in July-August!
DaSkinz Baby wrote:I think you need to check more sources. The injury is a tear to his LCL which is a longer heal time than an ACL.
[list=]DaSkinz Baby wrote:People I think you all need to do some simple research about LCL injuries and time tables. For the people that don't get it, the LCL is FAR MORE COMPLEX than an ACL or MCL tear. I believe that RG3 will come back and may even be better than ever but I doubt he comes back in 2013. 9-12 months people for a full LCL recovery. People also understand this has nothing to do with Adrian Peterson or his injury the LCL is the worst injury and when they use a complete RECONSTRUCTION verbage I tend to think that the knee is SHREDDED. The best thing that can happen is the knee get's fully repaired, and during next year's season he rehab's and get the muscles strong again and works on his explosion and continues to study the play book. 2014 he comes back hungrier than ever and then craps on the division again. I truly believe next year is a wash for RG3 and anyone that believes he will be back is basically a gullible imbecile.
SKIN4LIFE wrote:[list=]DaSkinz Baby wrote:People I think you all need to do some simple research about LCL injuries and time tables. For the people that don't get it, the LCL is FAR MORE COMPLEX than an ACL or MCL tear. I believe that RG3 will come back and may even be better than ever but I doubt he comes back in 2013. 9-12 months people for a full LCL recovery. People also understand this has nothing to do with Adrian Peterson or his injury the LCL is the worst injury and when they use a complete RECONSTRUCTION verbage I tend to think that the knee is SHREDDED. The best thing that can happen is the knee get's fully repaired, and during next year's season he rehab's and get the muscles strong again and works on his explosion and continues to study the play book. 2014 he comes back hungrier than ever and then craps on the division again. I truly believe next year is a wash for RG3 and anyone that believes he will be back is basically a gullible imbecile.
What are you talking about. Every doctor on tv, and there have been several, said the complete opposite. The LCL is least important and will heal faster due to increased blood flow. We need to hear what Andrews encountered while performing the surgery and set expectations from there. For the record and to ensure posters aren't misled, your statements around the LCL are false.[/list]
skinsfan#33 wrote:DaSkinz Baby wrote:I think you need to check more sources. The injury is a tear to his LCL which is a longer heal time than an ACL.
This is incorrect. A LCL is a much quicker recovery time than an ACL since it had beyer blood flow.
DaSkinz Baby wrote:People I think you all need to do some simple research about LCL injuries and time tables. For the people that don't get it, the LCL is FAR MORE COMPLEX than an ACL or MCL tear. I believe that RG3 will come back and may even be better than ever but I doubt he comes back in 2013. 9-12 months people for a full LCL recovery. People also understand this has nothing to do with Adrian Peterson or his injury the LCL is the worst injury and when they use a complete RECONSTRUCTION verbage I tend to think that the knee is SHREDDED. The best thing that can happen is the knee get's fully repaired, and during next year's season he rehab's and get the muscles strong again and works on his explosion and continues to study the play book. 2014 he comes back hungrier than ever and then craps on the division again. I truly believe next year is a wash for RG3 and anyone that believes he will be back is basically a gullible imbecile.
StorminMormon86 wrote:Everything I'm seeing/reading says 6-8 months to recover unless something "unforseen" happens. Worst case scenario is he won't be back until week 6 of next season.
skinsfan#33 wrote:DaSkinz Baby wrote:I think you need to check more sources. The injury is a tear to his LCL which is a longer heal time than an ACL.
This is incorrect. A LCL is a much quicker recovery time than an ACL since it had beyer blood flow.
Mississippiskinsfan2 wrote::shock: Didn't know there are so many perfect people in this world who do the right thing every time and who have never made a bad decision in their life
NYFINESTSKINSFAN wrote:Mississippiskinsfan2 wrote::shock: Didn't know there are so many perfect people in this world who do the right thing every time and who have never made a bad decision in their life
Mike made a huge mistake, maybe the worse of his career and he needs to own up to it. He is the HC and the buck stops with him. You see your most prized player hobbling all over the field, you pull him out. A non expert like myself knew that and I was right. Even in that case I don't think he deserves to be fired. He does need to learn from this and I think he will be a better and more responsible head coach than before. I just pray that RGIII will be back and better than before for 2014, if God's will, 2013.
FLWSkin wrote:Yes but this Dr hasn't seen the MRI or RGIII's knee so he is really just speaking in genearlities. Dr. Andrews knows for sure and I understand Mort got the info from him. Apparently the ACL is damaged but not torn so it is something in between a tear and no damage. That's my understanding of what I saw.
DaSkinz Baby wrote:FLWSkin wrote:Yes but this Dr hasn't seen the MRI or RGIII's knee so he is really just speaking in genearlities. Dr. Andrews knows for sure and I understand Mort got the info from him. Apparently the ACL is damaged but not torn so it is something in between a tear and no damage. That's my understanding of what I saw.
Not sure what you read but even Mort's news isn't that good as far as what I have read. I know the surgery is ongoing currently and from what I heard last the LCL and ACL were torn, needing to have the knee reconstructed but the severity wouldn't be know until they go in and see. Hopefully it goes well and the old damage and scar tissue isn't that bad. I hope he can come back and make a recovery like Adrian Peterson, however I doubt it and hope he comes back 2014 really hungry.
DaSkinz Baby wrote:skinsfan#33 wrote:DaSkinz Baby wrote:I think you need to check more sources. The injury is a tear to his LCL which is a longer heal time than an ACL.
This is incorrect. A LCL is a much quicker recovery time than an ACL since it had beyer blood flow.
Really?? LMMFAO cause Michael Jablonski who Dr. Andrews taught says this about the LCL:
Jablonski says it's unlikely that the LCL was torn in isolation – "I've seen like five isolated LCL tears [in 13 years]" – and it's the potential of multiple ligament damage that puts Griffin's short-term prognosis in the most peril. Jablonski said ACL injuries take six to eight months to heal and "a year to forget about it," meaning a year before the patient doesn't feel any after-effects. The LCL complicates the issue, because while an ACL regulates front-to-back motion, the LCL controls side-to-side movement.
"It makes it more difficult," said Jablonski, now the orthopedic doctor for the University of Central Florida athletic department. "You're trying to restore stability in more than one plane."
And because Griffin's mastery comes in both straight-ahead speed and lateral motion, his full recovery will be more tenuous than it would be for a more traditional drop-back passer.
"For that type of player to return to that same level of play, the chances are going to be lower than if it was a single-ligament injury," Jablonski said.
Asked if Griffin's Olympic-level speed is at risk, Jablonski said, "There's no question it's at risk. Not everybody regains full range of motion. It's still unstable and maybe can't get back to what it was."
NYFINESTSKINSFAN wrote:Mississippiskinsfan2 wrote::shock: Didn't know there are so many perfect people in this world who do the right thing every time and who have never made a bad decision in their life
Mike made a huge mistake, maybe the worse of his career and he needs to own up to it. He is the HC and the buck stops with him. You see your most prized player hobbling all over the field, you pull him out. A non expert like myself knew that and I was right. Even in that case I don't think he deserves to be fired. He does need to learn from this and I think he will be a better and more responsible head coach than before. I just pray that RGIII will be back and better than before for 2014, if God's will, 2013.
skinsfan#33 wrote:DaSkinz Baby wrote:skinsfan#33 wrote:DaSkinz Baby wrote:I think you need to check more sources. The injury is a tear to his LCL which is a longer heal time than an ACL.
This is incorrect. A LCL is a much quicker recovery time than an ACL since it had beyer blood flow.
Really?? LMMFAO cause Michael Jablonski who Dr. Andrews taught says this about the LCL:
Jablonski says it's unlikely that the LCL was torn in isolation – "I've seen like five isolated LCL tears [in 13 years]" – and it's the potential of multiple ligament damage that puts Griffin's short-term prognosis in the most peril. Jablonski said ACL injuries take six to eight months to heal and "a year to forget about it," meaning a year before the patient doesn't feel any after-effects. The LCL complicates the issue, because while an ACL regulates front-to-back motion, the LCL controls side-to-side movement.
"It makes it more difficult," said Jablonski, now the orthopedic doctor for the University of Central Florida athletic department. "You're trying to restore stability in more than one plane."
And because Griffin's mastery comes in both straight-ahead speed and lateral motion, his full recovery will be more tenuous than it would be for a more traditional drop-back passer.
"For that type of player to return to that same level of play, the chances are going to be lower than if it was a single-ligament injury," Jablonski said.
Asked if Griffin's Olympic-level speed is at risk, Jablonski said, "There's no question it's at risk. Not everybody regains full range of motion. It's still unstable and maybe can't get back to what it was."
ROTFLMAO
You used a quote that from a Dr. that doesn't address my comments at all. I said the LCL heals quicker, because it does, and the Dr. said it complicate things. OK, so how does that refute what I said.
DaSkinz Baby wrote:skinsfan#33 wrote:DaSkinz Baby wrote:skinsfan#33 wrote:DaSkinz Baby wrote:I think you need to check more sources. The injury is a tear to his LCL which is a longer heal time than an ACL.
This is incorrect. A LCL is a much quicker recovery time than an ACL since it had beyer blood flow.
Really?? LMMFAO cause Michael Jablonski who Dr. Andrews taught says this about the LCL:
Jablonski says it's unlikely that the LCL was torn in isolation – "I've seen like five isolated LCL tears [in 13 years]" – and it's the potential of multiple ligament damage that puts Griffin's short-term prognosis in the most peril. Jablonski said ACL injuries take six to eight months to heal and "a year to forget about it," meaning a year before the patient doesn't feel any after-effects. The LCL complicates the issue, because while an ACL regulates front-to-back motion, the LCL controls side-to-side movement.
"It makes it more difficult," said Jablonski, now the orthopedic doctor for the University of Central Florida athletic department. "You're trying to restore stability in more than one plane."
And because Griffin's mastery comes in both straight-ahead speed and lateral motion, his full recovery will be more tenuous than it would be for a more traditional drop-back passer.
"For that type of player to return to that same level of play, the chances are going to be lower than if it was a single-ligament injury," Jablonski said.
Asked if Griffin's Olympic-level speed is at risk, Jablonski said, "There's no question it's at risk. Not everybody regains full range of motion. It's still unstable and maybe can't get back to what it was."
ROTFLMAO
You used a quote that from a Dr. that doesn't address my comments at all. I said the LCL heals quicker, because it does, and the Dr. said it complicate things. OK, so how does that refute what I said.
Well thus far I have been batting 1000 we will just have to wait and see. NO WHERE DOES IT SAY THE LCL HEALS QUICKER other than your post. I will believe Dr. Daniel Gordon from:
Carolina Imaging
Hospital · Clinic
3628 Cape Center Dr
Fayetteville, NC 28304-4406
Before I take your post with anything more than a grain of salt. I do know that generally a ACL is seen as a more severe injury especially coupled with it already being injured, however LCL tears and the repair can be very long and drawn out. But for the sake of argument and your ROFLYAO let's just hope and pray that he heals quickly and can come back by the start of the season.
StorminMormon86 wrote:Countertrey wrote:Wow... what dimension was the presser you watched in? I watched the one in THIS universe...
I will admit that I only saw clips on a DC morning news show, so I may have taken it out of context...BUT I still contend that it was selfish to not man up and pull yourself out of a game (if your dumbass coach won't do it himself) to give your team a better chance to advance and win.
Didn't know there are so many perfect people in this world who do the right thing every time and who have never made a bad decision in their life 
