Seattle @ Washington preview analyses

Talk about the Washington Football Team here. Do you bleed burgundy and gold?
Redskin in Canada
~~~~~~
~~~~~~
Posts: 10323
youtube meble na wymiar Warszawa
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:59 am
Location: Canada

Seattle @ Washington preview analyses

Post by Redskin in Canada »

This thread is intended to compile the most interesting game analyses posted as articles or video in the media plus your comments and views about them and the game.

So far:

Break It Down, Wild-Card Weekend preview: Seattle’s secondary vs. RGIII

Rookie Bowl: Russell Wilson and RG3 face off

The 'Mad Scientist' Jim Haslett's ever-changing schemes are a vital factor in the Redskins' success
Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
Chris Luva Luva
---
---
Posts: 18887
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:55 pm
Location: AJT
Contact:

Post by Chris Luva Luva »

It's weird, I feel oddly confident about this game. Weird. Weird.

Key to success -

1. Stopping the run, duh.

2. Containing Wilson in the pocket and bringing him down when we hands on him. He's like Romo if Romo didn't throw interceptions.

3. Our passing game has to show up next week and compliment the run game.
The road to the number 1 pick gaining speed!
burgngold4life
piggie
Posts: 105
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 1:32 am
Location: Clinton, MD

Post by burgngold4life »

U should hear the poop talk I'm getting from these Seattle fans.

My dad was born and raised out there and he's die hard Hawks.. saying it will be close but our offense will struggle late.

Iono.. it'll be a tough match but I think we got em'.
Redskin in Canada
~~~~~~
~~~~~~
Posts: 10323
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:59 am
Location: Canada

Post by Redskin in Canada »

Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
ATX_Skins
ATX
ATX
Posts: 3386
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:59 am
Location: NOVA
Contact:

Post by ATX_Skins »

We will win, I am more confident about this game than when we played the Browns with Cousins.
Support the troops, especially our snipers.
User avatar
Deadskins
JSPB22
JSPB22
Posts: 18392
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:03 am
Location: Location, LOCATION!

Post by Deadskins »

Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.


Hog Bowl IV Champion (2012)

Hail to the Redskins!
User avatar
Silnwest
newbie
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:59 pm

Post by Silnwest »

Here are a couple good blog posts from a Seahawks blogger that are well-written. The first is making a case for the Redskins and the 2nd is the blogger letting a bit of his homerism in.

http://www.hawkblogger.com/2013/01/the- ... ctory.html

http://www.hawkblogger.com/2013/01/firs ... tough.html
Redskin in Canada
~~~~~~
~~~~~~
Posts: 10323
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:59 am
Location: Canada

Post by Redskin in Canada »

Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
The Hogster
#######
#######
Posts: 7225
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:13 pm
Location: Washington D.C.

Post by The Hogster »

I expect this game to look like the season opener against the Saints.
SPIT HAPPENS!!
___________________________
SkinsJock
08 Champ
08 Champ
Posts: 18385
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:23 pm
Location: New England

Post by SkinsJock »

The Hogster wrote:I expect this game to look like the season opener against the Saints.


WOW :shock: hopefully you're sharing that stuff
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
RayNAustin
Hog
Posts: 2370
Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:56 am

Post by RayNAustin »

Though Seattle has put up some impressive performances against some very good teams, I cannot agree at all with the "experts" who are all raving about them, most picking Seattle over the Skins as if they were New England playing the Chiefs.

Here are the keys as I see them:

1) Seattle's defense has carried that team to it's 11-5 record, while they've lost games to inferior teams on the road. Holding opponents to 15 points per game is best in the NFL .... 9 points better than the Redskin defense, BUT ... in that regard, 11-5 is not so impressive, because with that type of defensive support, the Redskins might be 16-0 right now .... certainly better than 11-5. And I don't see Seattle holding the Redskin offense to a low number, because I don't think they can stop the run game of the Skins.

2) The Redskin offense has shown the ability to adapt to what defenses try to do to stop them .... for example, the two wins against the Cowboys were two totally different attacks ... the first win was through the air, and 4 TD passes ... the second win was all on the ground, and Seattle has weakness against the run. When they played the Vikes, Peterson gashed them for 189 yards, and Miami ran well against them too. So I expect Morris to have a big game against them, and if they stack the box to stop it, RG3 will burn them down field.

3) The strength of Seattle's defense is pass defense, and their two big physical CBs who dominate receivers, and take passing options away on the outside ... but that's a more effective scheme against big physical dominating receivers like a Dez Bryant, or Andre Johnson .... while the Redskin receivers are speed guys, which match up better against such big physical, aggressive corners. We have Garcon, Robinson, and Moss (the king of the double move) that I think can get deep on that secondary, particularly if they have to cheat up to stop Morris/RG3 running. You can bet that Seattle will be game planning based on our predominant run scheme employed against Dallas last week, but they may wind up seeing the Redskin offense that beat the Cowboys through the air in the 1st game. There are few teams that have shown the ability to dominate through the air AND on the ground, as the Skin's offense has been able to do ALL YEAR .... even with Cousins in there.

4) The Redskin defense is not the same defense that played the first 9 games this season .. and Hasslett has managed to get these guys to eliminate the many coverage breakdowns that plagued this group before. And they have been improving each week for the past 7, and looked at their best last week against the Cowboy offense that entered the game on a roll. Over the first 9 games, the defense gave up an average of 27.5 points a game, while that number has improved to 20 points/g over the last 7. That's a huge improvement. Last week, they had Romo guessing all day, and as good as Russell Wilson may be, he's still a rookie, and the complex looks and disguises Hasslett employs is going to cause some indecision and mistakes. Given that Seattle's offense has relied on the running of Lynch to help Wilson ... the run defense of the Redskins is our strength, and might have a better time stopping him than some other opponents Seattle has faced, putting most of the pressure on the Rookie to carry the load.

While everyone seems so enamored with Seattle's vaunted defense, and with many elevating Wilson to being an equal of RG3, I'm not drinking the kool-aide. They may be very good, but they have struggled mightily on the road this year, and I think the Redskins offense is going to give them fits, and they will not be able to dominate defensively like they are used to doing. That's going to put that much more pressure on Wilson, and we'll just have to wait and see how he responds.

The Skins win this one by two scores, much to the chagrin of NFL analysts who refuse to give the Redskins credit due.
The Hogster
#######
#######
Posts: 7225
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:13 pm
Location: Washington D.C.

Post by The Hogster »

RayNAustin wrote:Though Seattle has put up some impressive performances against some very good teams, I cannot agree at all with the "experts" who are all raving about them, most picking Seattle over the Skins as if they were New England playing the Chiefs.

Here are the keys as I see them:

1) Seattle's defense has carried that team to it's 11-5 record, while they've lost games to inferior teams on the road. Holding opponents to 15 points per game is best in the NFL .... 9 points better than the Redskin defense, BUT ... in that regard, 11-5 is not so impressive, because with that type of defensive support, the Redskins might be 16-0 right now .... certainly better than 11-5. And I don't see Seattle holding the Redskin offense to a low number, because I don't think they can stop the run game of the Skins.

2) The Redskin offense has shown the ability to adapt to what defenses try to do to stop them .... for example, the two wins against the Cowboys were two totally different attacks ... the first win was through the air, and 4 TD passes ... the second win was all on the ground, and Seattle has weakness against the run. When they played the Vikes, Peterson gashed them for 189 yards, and Miami ran well against them too. So I expect Morris to have a big game against them, and if they stack the box to stop it, RG3 will burn them down field.

3) The strength of Seattle's defense is pass defense, and their two big physical CBs who dominate receivers, and take passing options away on the outside ... but that's a more effective scheme against big physical dominating receivers like a Dez Bryant, or Andre Johnson .... while the Redskin receivers are speed guys, which match up better against such big physical, aggressive corners. We have Garcon, Robinson, and Moss (the king of the double move) that I think can get deep on that secondary, particularly if they have to cheat up to stop Morris/RG3 running. You can bet that Seattle will be game planning based on our predominant run scheme employed against Dallas last week, but they may wind up seeing the Redskin offense that beat the Cowboys through the air in the 1st game. There are few teams that have shown the ability to dominate through the air AND on the ground, as the Skin's offense has been able to do ALL YEAR .... even with Cousins in there.

4) The Redskin defense is not the same defense that played the first 9 games this season .. and Hasslett has managed to get these guys to eliminate the many coverage breakdowns that plagued this group before. And they have been improving each week for the past 7, and looked at their best last week against the Cowboy offense that entered the game on a roll. Over the first 9 games, the defense gave up an average of 27.5 points a game, while that number has improved to 20 points/g over the last 7. That's a huge improvement. Last week, they had Romo guessing all day, and as good as Russell Wilson may be, he's still a rookie, and the complex looks and disguises Hasslett employs is going to cause some indecision and mistakes. Given that Seattle's offense has relied on the running of Lynch to help Wilson ... the run defense of the Redskins is our strength, and might have a better time stopping him than some other opponents Seattle has faced, putting most of the pressure on the Rookie to carry the load.

While everyone seems so enamored with Seattle's vaunted defense, and with many elevating Wilson to being an equal of RG3, I'm not drinking the kool-aide. They may be very good, but they have struggled mightily on the road this year, and I think the Redskins offense is going to give them fits, and they will not be able to dominate defensively like they are used to doing. That's going to put that much more pressure on Wilson, and we'll just have to wait and see how he responds.

The Skins win this one by two scores, much to the chagrin of NFL analysts who refuse to give the Redskins credit due.


+1
SPIT HAPPENS!!
___________________________
User avatar
riggofan
HereComesTheDiesel
HereComesTheDiesel
Posts: 9460
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Montclair, Virginia

Post by riggofan »

I'm kind of liking how many media people seem to be picking the Seahawks. I swear on Mike & Mike today they were ranking the playoff QBs and had Russell Wilson ranked like 3d or 4th with RGIII the 7th. CRAZY TALK.

We can go through the whole playoffs as underdogs and I will be completely happy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"You can't do epic **** with basic people." - DJax
"We're on the rise, man, whether you're on the train or not." - Josh Norman
User avatar
emoses14
Hog
Posts: 2320
Joined: Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:36 pm
Location: Atlanta, GA

Post by emoses14 »

I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"

-Santana Moss on Our QB
SkinsJock
08 Champ
08 Champ
Posts: 18385
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:23 pm
Location: New England

Post by SkinsJock »

riggofan wrote:I'm kind of liking how many media people seem to be picking the Seahawks. I swear on Mike & Mike today they were ranking the playoff QBs and had Russell Wilson ranked like 3d or 4th with RGIII the 7th. CRAZY TALK.

We can go through the whole playoffs as underdogs and I will be completely happy.


It seems that the media and many fans just do not 'want' to give this group any credit for what they've done over the last few weeks

I understand what Seattle has done but I think they have a better defense and special teams than we do ... both offenses are getting the job done

I think that most fans and the media do not fully understand that this is no longer about who has the 'best' defense or the 'best' offense or what they've done recently ...

this game is going to come down to our defense keeping us in the game and their defense NOT being able to keep up with our offense

the defensive front 4 of the giants and the cowboys defense are not exactly bad and our offense controlled both of those units

sure they'll have great special teams plays but I don't think the special teams play is going to affect what Kyle & RG3 are able to do
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
SkinsJock
08 Champ
08 Champ
Posts: 18385
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:23 pm
Location: New England

Post by SkinsJock »

btw - wouldn't it be nice to have some crowd noise this week :lol:

I'm not selling the Sqwarks short but I really do think we'll find a way to win this game
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
SkinsJock
08 Champ
08 Champ
Posts: 18385
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:23 pm
Location: New England

Post by SkinsJock »

Robert Griffin III is THE BEST QB the Seattle Seahawks have seen in a B&G uniform
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
DarthMonk
DarthMonk
DarthMonk
Posts: 7047
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:58 pm

Post by DarthMonk »

RayNAustin wrote:Though Seattle has put up some impressive performances against some very good teams, I cannot agree at all with the "experts" who are all raving about them, most picking Seattle over the Skins as if they were New England playing the Chiefs.

Here are the keys as I see them:

1) Seattle's defense has carried that team to it's 11-5 record, while they've lost games to inferior teams on the road. Holding opponents to 15 points per game is best in the NFL .... 9 points better than the Redskin defense, BUT ... in that regard, 11-5 is not so impressive, because with that type of defensive support, the Redskins might be 16-0 right now .... certainly better than 11-5. And I don't see Seattle holding the Redskin offense to a low number, because I don't think they can stop the run game of the Skins.

2) The Redskin offense has shown the ability to adapt to what defenses try to do to stop them .... for example, the two wins against the Cowboys were two totally different attacks ... the first win was through the air, and 4 TD passes ... the second win was all on the ground, and Seattle has weakness against the run. When they played the Vikes, Peterson gashed them for 189 yards, and Miami ran well against them too. So I expect Morris to have a big game against them, and if they stack the box to stop it, RG3 will burn them down field.

3) The strength of Seattle's defense is pass defense, and their two big physical CBs who dominate receivers, and take passing options away on the outside ... but that's a more effective scheme against big physical dominating receivers like a Dez Bryant, or Andre Johnson .... while the Redskin receivers are speed guys, which match up better against such big physical, aggressive corners. We have Garcon, Robinson, and Moss (the king of the double move) that I think can get deep on that secondary, particularly if they have to cheat up to stop Morris/RG3 running. You can bet that Seattle will be game planning based on our predominant run scheme employed against Dallas last week, but they may wind up seeing the Redskin offense that beat the Cowboys through the air in the 1st game. There are few teams that have shown the ability to dominate through the air AND on the ground, as the Skin's offense has been able to do ALL YEAR .... even with Cousins in there.

4) The Redskin defense is not the same defense that played the first 9 games this season .. and Hasslett has managed to get these guys to eliminate the many coverage breakdowns that plagued this group before. And they have been improving each week for the past 7, and looked at their best last week against the Cowboy offense that entered the game on a roll. Over the first 9 games, the defense gave up an average of 27.5 points a game, while that number has improved to 20 points/g over the last 7. That's a huge improvement. Last week, they had Romo guessing all day, and as good as Russell Wilson may be, he's still a rookie, and the complex looks and disguises Hasslett employs is going to cause some indecision and mistakes. Given that Seattle's offense has relied on the running of Lynch to help Wilson ... the run defense of the Redskins is our strength, and might have a better time stopping him than some other opponents Seattle has faced, putting most of the pressure on the Rookie to carry the load.

While everyone seems so enamored with Seattle's vaunted defense, and with many elevating Wilson to being an equal of RG3, I'm not drinking the kool-aide. They may be very good, but they have struggled mightily on the road this year, and I think the Redskins offense is going to give them fits, and they will not be able to dominate defensively like they are used to doing. That's going to put that much more pressure on Wilson, and we'll just have to wait and see how he responds.

The Skins win this one by two scores, much to the chagrin of NFL analysts who refuse to give the Redskins credit due.


What Ray Ray said. Especially ~

Holding opponents to 15 points per game is best in the NFL .... 9 points better than the Redskin defense, BUT ... in that regard, 11-5 is not so impressive, because with that type of defensive support, the Redskins might be 16-0 right now .... certainly better than 11-5.


Says something about the SEA offense, no?
Hog Bowl III, V, X Champion (2011, 2013, 2018)

Hognostication Champion (2011, 2013, 2016)

Hognostibowl XII Champion (2017, 2018)


Scalp 'em, Swamp 'em,
We will take 'em big score!
Read 'em, Weep 'em Touchdown,
We want heap more!
Redskin in Canada
~~~~~~
~~~~~~
Posts: 10323
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:59 am
Location: Canada

Post by Redskin in Canada »

Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
User avatar
Deadskins
JSPB22
JSPB22
Posts: 18392
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:03 am
Location: Location, LOCATION!

Post by Deadskins »


Dan Steinberg reminds me of a bald Seth Green.
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.


Hog Bowl IV Champion (2012)

Hail to the Redskins!
The Hogster
#######
#######
Posts: 7225
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:13 pm
Location: Washington D.C.

Post by The Hogster »

Parts II & III

Highlights from a Seahawks fan view. Not bad camera work by him. But, this shows how un-impressive the Seahawks really are. This is the real Seahawks team. Their defense has added some LB help, but this is the same secondary and same front 4. I have no clue why the media and the Seahawk fans think they're the '85 Bears all of a sudden.

Rex gave them the ball as usual. Once on an over throw, and once throwing into triple coverage. We still dominated this game.

Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=troYVWxxu0Q

Part III - Skins WIN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLpWTnBQbzo

Takeaways from this game:

DeAngelo Hall had a great game.

The Defense contained Tavaris Jackson & Marshawn Lynch. Put Sidney Rice out with a concussion.

Rex Grossman was both good and bad Rex. 2 picks and a fumble.

The Skins had a FG blocked and an EP blocked. The camera guy called both before.

Everything the Skins called on offense worked.

These teams hate each other.
SPIT HAPPENS!!
___________________________
The Hogster
#######
#######
Posts: 7225
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:13 pm
Location: Washington D.C.

Post by The Hogster »

Deadskins wrote:

Dan Steinberg reminds me of a bald Seth Green.


I think you're being kind to Dan. He reminds me of a bald Dr. Brown from Back to the Future.

Image
SPIT HAPPENS!!
___________________________
User avatar
riggofan
HereComesTheDiesel
HereComesTheDiesel
Posts: 9460
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Montclair, Virginia

Post by riggofan »

SkinsJock wrote:
riggofan wrote:I'm kind of liking how many media people seem to be picking the Seahawks. I swear on Mike & Mike today they were ranking the playoff QBs and had Russell Wilson ranked like 3d or 4th with RGIII the 7th. CRAZY TALK.

We can go through the whole playoffs as underdogs and I will be completely happy.


It seems that the media and many fans just do not 'want' to give this group any credit for what they've done over the last few weeks


It seems to me that people have kind of forgotten how dangerous RGIII is. I expect him to remind everybody on Sunday.
User avatar
Deadskins
JSPB22
JSPB22
Posts: 18392
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:03 am
Location: Location, LOCATION!

Post by Deadskins »

The Hogster wrote:
Deadskins wrote:

Dan Steinberg reminds me of a bald Seth Green.


I think you're being kind to Dan. He reminds me of a bald Dr. Brown from Back to the Future.

Image

This is as close as I could find:

ImageImage
Image

His voice is similar too.
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.


Hog Bowl IV Champion (2012)

Hail to the Redskins!
Redskin in Canada
~~~~~~
~~~~~~
Posts: 10323
Joined: Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:59 am
Location: Canada

Post by Redskin in Canada »

Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
Post Reply