Redskins have to beat Cowboys (lose tiebreakers)

fleetus · Post by **fleetus** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:02 pm

If the Cowboys win vs. the Redskins next week, they will become the division winner.

This is because the Cowboys have the third tiebreaker!!!

The first tiebreaker is head to head games.
All three teams, Redskins, Cowboys and Giants will have split their head to head games, 1-1.

Second tie breaker is division record.
Redskins are 4-1
Cowboys are 3-2
Giants are 2-3
(So if the Redskins lose next week, they will be tied at 4-2 with the Cowboys)

The third tie breaker is your win/loss record against common opponents.
(I'll exclude the Giants right now since they are 2-3 in the division and cannot win the division.)
Washington and Dallas have played the following teams in common: Saints, Bengals, Bucs, Falcons, Steelers, Panthers, Ravens and Browns. Against those teams:
Redskins are 4-4 against those teams.
Cowboys are 5-3 against those teams.

Redskins must beat the Cowboys next week to win the division. Otherwise, they will be 9-7 and fighting for the last wildcard.

grampi · Post by **grampi** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:08 pm

I thought the 3rd tie breaker was conference record?

funsho2 · Post by **funsho2** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:08 pm

Freaking tie breaker ....rg3 should lead the skins to a win next week

funsho2 · Post by **funsho2** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:09 pm

grampi wrote:I thought the 3rd tie breaker was conference record?

I thought the same

stacylee12 · Post by **stacylee12** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:11 pm

It is head to head, division, common, conference. But let's just win!

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:12 pm

Thanks, Fleetus. Great breakdown.
And he's right; 3rd is common opponents..

Had to look it up myself.

fleetus · Post by **fleetus** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:13 pm

grampi wrote:I thought the 3rd tie breaker was conference record?

For a wild card spot - YES.

To become the Division winner, NO, different tiebreakers.

TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION

If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.
Two Clubs

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss

stacylee12 · Post by **stacylee12** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:13 pm

Head to head and then conference applies to Wildcard if tying teams are not in same division.

welch · Post by **welch** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:14 pm

Just win.

grampi · Post by **grampi** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:23 pm

So I guess I was rooting for Dallas to lose today for nothing then....crap!

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:56 pm

grampi wrote:So I guess I was rooting for Dallas to lose today for nothing then....crap!

I said, several times during the game thread, that it didn't matter if Dallas won or lost today... the season comes down to next weeks game, at FedEx... for both teams.

This is likely to pour gasoline on the coals of the best rivalry in football, no matter the outcome.

Amberion · Post by **Amberion** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:26 pm

grampi wrote:So I guess I was rooting for Dallas to lose today for nothing then....crap!

But its so much fun rooting for Dallas to lose

NYFINESTSKINSFAN · Post by **NYFINESTSKINSFAN** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:31 pm

Just out of curiosity, say we lose next week, what has to happen to make the wild card?

ACW · Post by **ACW** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:37 pm

NYFINESTSKINSFAN wrote:Just out of curiosity, say we lose next week, what has to happen to make the wild card?

Based on this week, I THINK both MN and CHI have to lose, but I'm not sure.

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:33 pm

grampi wrote:So I guess I was rooting for Dallas to lose today for nothing then....crap!

dont you every week???

FLWSkin · Post by **FLWSkin** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:40 pm

What if we tie next week?

Burgundy&Wha? · Post by **Burgundy&Wha?** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:44 pm

FLWSkin wrote:What if we tie next week?

The Mayan calendar will start running again...but in REVERSE! :roll:

ACW · Post by **ACW** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:50 pm

FLWSkin wrote:What if we tie next week?

We'd still win the NFCE

9.5-6.5
DAL 8.5-7.5
Giants 9-7 at best

FLWSkin · Post by **FLWSkin** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:54 pm

That's what I thought. We still have one more win than Dallas.

gibbsfan · Post by **gibbsfan** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:37 pm

welch wrote:Just win.

+1

FrenchHog · Post by **FrenchHog** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:53 pm

It will be a lot of pain if we don't make the playoffs with a 9-7 record. :cry:

I'm not very confident. We have a poor defense, and Dez Bryant will have fun...

funsho2 · Post by **funsho2** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:29 pm

The playoffs starts next week....its win or go home....this what shanny need to instill in the players.....

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:35 pm

funsho2 wrote:The playoffs starts next week....its win or go home....this what shanny need to instill in the players.....

True.

You can bet the Cowboys will get the same message. It has the potential to be a war.

grampi · Post by **grampi** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:40 pm

funsho2 wrote:The playoffs starts next week....its win or go home....this what shanny need to instill in the players.....

The playoffs started 6 games ago for the Skins....

grampi · Post by **grampi** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:42 pm

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:
grampi wrote:So I guess I was rooting for Dallas to lose today for nothing then....crap!

dont you every week???

Of course, but this week I was counting on Dallas being done if they lost...that wasn't the case....