Who's Gonna Start?
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Who's Gonna Start?
The Washington Redskins are going to put a quarterback on the field Sunday. Which one remains shrouded in mystery.
"I can't tell you all that," Griffin told The Associated Press after Wednesday's practice. "First, I don't want to give the Cleveland Browns a competitive advantage. And I don't want to let anybody down, so I don't want to say that I'll be playing and end up not playing."
Backup Kirk Cousins was equally covert when asked about his status, indicating that Redskins quarterbacks have been muzzled this week.
"I was advised not to comment on the rep distribution," Cousins said. "So I'm sorry, but I'm not going to say anything along those lines, just to protect my team and give us the best chance to win on Sunday."
RG3 went so far as to admit that his limited non-contact work in Wednesday's practice was partly for show.
"Coming out here and doing what I did in practice, it's kind of a showcase for you guys to see me move around, and that I'm not on crutches or limping or anything like that," Griffin said. "But it's also for (my teammates) to see that I'm OK, and if I do step out there between those lines that they don't have to worry about me."
The Redskins (7-6) are fighting for their playoff lives, so the secrecy comes as little surprise. It's been effective, with reports out of Cleveland stating the Browns have spent time preparing for both signal-callers. When he's not playing the role of Cousins, Browns backup passer Colt McCoy is being used to double as RG3 for the scout team this week, according to ESPNCleveland.com's Tony Grossi.
It's encouraging that Griffin suited up Wednesday. The rookie passer appears to have dodged a bullet with the sprained lateral collateral ligament he suffered in his right knee against the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday -- and we've said this all along: We expect RG3 to play.
Might we play both? Any chance we play one on 1st and 2nd downs while the other plays on 3rd and more than 3 yards or something like that?
Any chance Banks is activated to give him a chance to "respond?" If so, I'd expect some fireworks - one way or another.
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"I can't tell you all that," Griffin told The Associated Press after Wednesday's practice. "First, I don't want to give the Cleveland Browns a competitive advantage. And I don't want to let anybody down, so I don't want to say that I'll be playing and end up not playing."
Backup Kirk Cousins was equally covert when asked about his status, indicating that Redskins quarterbacks have been muzzled this week.
"I was advised not to comment on the rep distribution," Cousins said. "So I'm sorry, but I'm not going to say anything along those lines, just to protect my team and give us the best chance to win on Sunday."
RG3 went so far as to admit that his limited non-contact work in Wednesday's practice was partly for show.
"Coming out here and doing what I did in practice, it's kind of a showcase for you guys to see me move around, and that I'm not on crutches or limping or anything like that," Griffin said. "But it's also for (my teammates) to see that I'm OK, and if I do step out there between those lines that they don't have to worry about me."
The Redskins (7-6) are fighting for their playoff lives, so the secrecy comes as little surprise. It's been effective, with reports out of Cleveland stating the Browns have spent time preparing for both signal-callers. When he's not playing the role of Cousins, Browns backup passer Colt McCoy is being used to double as RG3 for the scout team this week, according to ESPNCleveland.com's Tony Grossi.
It's encouraging that Griffin suited up Wednesday. The rookie passer appears to have dodged a bullet with the sprained lateral collateral ligament he suffered in his right knee against the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday -- and we've said this all along: We expect RG3 to play.
Might we play both? Any chance we play one on 1st and 2nd downs while the other plays on 3rd and more than 3 yards or something like that?
Any chance Banks is activated to give him a chance to "respond?" If so, I'd expect some fireworks - one way or another.
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Re: Who's Gonna Start?
Let's hope not.DarthMonk wrote:Might we play both? Any chance we play one on 1st and 2nd downs while the other plays on 3rd and more than 3 yards or something like that?
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TOTALLY agree - this is not 'typical' of Mike - this is the right thing to do - any and all HCs would take the same approach if they couldriggofan wrote:Its just like any good coach to do this. Why not make the other team try to prepare for two QBs?aswas71788 wrote:Just like Shanahan to do something like this.
IMO - Griffin feels like he gives the team that best chance and he'll go - IF Griffin feels at all like his play might be 'affected' he would not be starting
I'm sure that he plays and that Kyle and Mike will slightly tweak the play calling
we can win this game with either QB - we need to eliminate the silly penalties
this Redskins team will not be denied a shot at the NFC East
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Re: Who's Gonna Start?
Not like that, no. But I could see Cousins getting the start, and if he's not doing so well, or we really need a spark, RGIII coming off the bench to play the second half.DarthMonk wrote:Might we play both? Any chance we play one on 1st and 2nd downs while the other plays on 3rd and more than 3 yards or something like that?
Hog Bowl IV Champion (2012)Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
Hail to the Redskins!
I still think that RG3 get's to play and help his guys win this game - he's THE man here now - He's just too damn good
This team will not be denied and is going to be really ready to play well
RG3 is starting and leading this team by example
This team will not be denied and is going to be really ready to play well
RG3 is starting and leading this team by example
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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I think that RGIII will dress for the game. I'm just not sure he'll start.
Depending on the extent of RGIII's injury, (if not >90%) I would start Cousins and if he struggles put in RGIII. If Cousines plays well, it all worked out. If RGIII is close to 100% then no question he goes.
Side note --- I love that CLE is preparing for RGIII with McCOY of all people. Whose idea was that? They should be using Cribbs.
On that note, Cribbs is one of the best KO returners in the game. I hope Kai can get eliminate that threat in some way come sunday.
Depending on the extent of RGIII's injury, (if not >90%) I would start Cousins and if he struggles put in RGIII. If Cousines plays well, it all worked out. If RGIII is close to 100% then no question he goes.
Side note --- I love that CLE is preparing for RGIII with McCOY of all people. Whose idea was that? They should be using Cribbs.
On that note, Cribbs is one of the best KO returners in the game. I hope Kai can get eliminate that threat in some way come sunday.
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I'll buy that - I just think that RG3 is cleared to go and he'll be finemarkshark84 wrote:I think that RGIII will dress for the game. I'm just not sure he'll start.
Depending on the extent of RGIII's injury, (if not >90%) I would start Cousins and if he struggles put in RGIII. If Cousins plays well, it all worked out. If RGIII is close to 100% then no question he goes.
AGAIN - I don't think we'll lose this game with Kirk as QB - either is good enough to get the job done
WE JUST HAVE TO NOT LOSE THE GAME
I think the same guys that didn't REALLY want to trade up for RG3Side note --- I love that CLE is preparing for RGIII with McCOY of all people. Whose idea was that? They should be using Cribbs.
On that note, Cribbs is one of the best KO returners in the game. I hope Kai can get eliminate that threat in some way come sunday.

If we score a lot the good news is we'll be kicking off a lot
the bad news is we'll be kicking off a lot to Cribbs - that boy is good
HOPEFULLY the Redskins' ST coverage brings their A game

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Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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[/quote]SkinsJock wrote:I'll buy that - I just think that RG3 is cleared to go and he'll be finemarkshark84 wrote:I think that RGIII will dress for the game. I'm just not sure he'll start.
Depending on the extent of RGIII's injury, (if not >90%) I would start Cousins and if he struggles put in RGIII. If Cousins plays well, it all worked out. If RGIII is close to 100% then no question he goes.
So let me get this straight. If RGIII is less than 90% you would start Cousins. But if Cousins struggles, you would then go ahead and put in the injured RGIII?

I'd suspect if RGIII isn't well enough to start the game, he's probably not the best bet to relieve Cousins down a few scores late in a game or something along those lines.

I'd agree - if RG3 is cleared to play he's starting the game
are you kidding me - why would you not start him?
he's got a mild sprain and he's been practicing - he's starting guys!
the quotes by Mike is just typical Mike BS - this HC of ours can't lie straight in bed
are you kidding me - why would you not start him?
he's got a mild sprain and he's been practicing - he's starting guys!
the quotes by Mike is just typical Mike BS - this HC of ours can't lie straight in bed
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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Is there any doubt that RG3 is starting? .... really
and I look for Mike & Kyle to use the pistol formation and even include some running plays from it

and I look for Mike & Kyle to use the pistol formation and even include some running plays from it
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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riggofan wrote:SkinsJock wrote:I'll buy that - I just think that RG3 is cleared to go and he'll be finemarkshark84 wrote:I think that RGIII will dress for the game. I'm just not sure he'll start.
Depending on the extent of RGIII's injury, (if not >90%) I would start Cousins and if he struggles put in RGIII. If Cousins plays well, it all worked out. If RGIII is close to 100% then no question he goes.
Yes. Why not? The reasoning is that an injury of where you are less than 90% has a greater likelihood of re-injury. As such you would not want to place RGIII in a position to reinjure unless we were going to loss the game. Therefore, you start KC, see how he does. If he is playing like Weeden in week 1, you take the risk with RGIII as this is a huge game. If KC comes in and plays like he did last week, then you don't have to.riggofan wrote: So let me get this straight. If RGIII is less than 90% you would start Cousins. But if Cousins struggles, you would then go ahead and put in the injured RGIII?![]()
I'd suspect if RGIII isn't well enough to start the game, he's probably not the best bet to relieve Cousins down a few scores late in a game or something along those lines.
And in terms of your second paragraph: 80% RGIII > 100% KC. No question. So I just disagree with your opinion on that. RGIII coming back in will create an "attitude" and momentum switch that would have a significant effect on the players around him. He would have the ability to bring them back.
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SHOCKING that The Washington Post would share critical information with the enemy!The Hogster wrote:Well seeing how the front page of the Washington Post--not the Sports Section--the ENTIRE PAPER includes this picture of RGIII stretching his right leg. I don't see how he doesn't play this week.
HAIL

The thing I find funny in the article is that Colt McCoy is being used as the stand in for RG III on their scout team. I hope their defense keys in on Colt pretty well. Should be comical noticing the difference if RG III is on the field. Think that D might react a bit......late?

I really don't think it matters much - the Browns have to prepare for both QBs and they will
The Redskins should give Kirk a little more time/reps this week and they will
Robert Griffin III is the captain and THE force on this team - IF he's able to play, he WILL start - NO DOUBT about it
the only people using the word "injury" are the media and the Redskins staff - well the Browns may be also - they're hoping& PRAYING that he's 'slightly injured'
RG3 has a mild sprain and is probably in better physical shape than most other players at this time of the season
RG3 WILL start - the only thing that will get him out of this game is if we decide to let Kirk Cousins get some 'clean-up' time
WHY would even consider not playing him if he's able to play - HE's NOT INJURED
The Redskins should give Kirk a little more time/reps this week and they will
Robert Griffin III is the captain and THE force on this team - IF he's able to play, he WILL start - NO DOUBT about it
the only people using the word "injury" are the media and the Redskins staff - well the Browns may be also - they're hoping& PRAYING that he's 'slightly injured'
RG3 has a mild sprain and is probably in better physical shape than most other players at this time of the season
RG3 WILL start - the only thing that will get him out of this game is if we decide to let Kirk Cousins get some 'clean-up' time
WHY would even consider not playing him if he's able to play - HE's NOT INJURED

Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
I do. A sprain, even a very mild one doesn't heal in just a few days...I see Cousins starting...The Hogster wrote:Well seeing how the front page of the Washington Post--not the Sports Section--the ENTIRE PAPER includes this picture of RGIII stretching his right leg. I don't see how he doesn't play this week.
HAIL
no worries grampi - I can understand that ..
the fact that the Redskins could win the NFC East with just 1 loss by the giants AND us winning out makes this game kind of big
We actually don't have too much pressure to win as the giants could quite easily lose the next 2 games
I look for the Redskins to try and finish this season 10-6
THAT would be a HUGE deal for everyone here
actually, maybe we get lucky ... the OC could get a HC job with all the teams that will be needing a HC
the fact that the Redskins could win the NFC East with just 1 loss by the giants AND us winning out makes this game kind of big
We actually don't have too much pressure to win as the giants could quite easily lose the next 2 games
I look for the Redskins to try and finish this season 10-6
THAT would be a HUGE deal for everyone here
actually, maybe we get lucky ... the OC could get a HC job with all the teams that will be needing a HC
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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LOL. Is that a medical fact? Let me check webmd...markshark84 wrote:Yes. Why not? The reasoning is that an injury of where you are less than 90% has a greater likelihood of re-injury.

I get what you're saying, just don't agree with the logic. Bring in RGIII late in the game if KC doesn't do well? In that scenario, you're probably down a score or two. So you bring in your injured QB who is going to be under greater pressure to scramble and make plays. Playing from behind, its also likely that the defense knows you're passing more and using Morris less. AND the defense knows your QB has a sprained knee, so he is even more of a target.
If you're worried about getting your QB injured, I'm not sure that's a great strategy.
I think RGIII is either healthy enough to play or he isn't. Just MHO.
I still feel that RG3 is ready to play and that he will start .. don't see any reason to change
I will add that I hear that Jay Glazer is "reporting'" that RG3 has not taken any reps with the 1st unit this week ..
I'm not sure how reliable that 'report' is ... I'm hoping that RG3 is able to go ... but
I have NO DOUBT we win this game with either QB ... and it would be a huge PLUS for many reasons to NOT use RG3
can you imagine how much trade value ..... NO, STOP THAT !!!!!
OK - 1 GAME AT A TIME
C'mon, KC - bring it on - this one's for you
I will add that I hear that Jay Glazer is "reporting'" that RG3 has not taken any reps with the 1st unit this week ..
I'm not sure how reliable that 'report' is ... I'm hoping that RG3 is able to go ... but
I have NO DOUBT we win this game with either QB ... and it would be a huge PLUS for many reasons to NOT use RG3
can you imagine how much trade value ..... NO, STOP THAT !!!!!
OK - 1 GAME AT A TIME
C'mon, KC - bring it on - this one's for you

Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
word is out that Kirk will be starting - I stand by my earlier post
no matter who the QB is we 'win'
this is a great opportunity for Kirk and the Redskins
gotta love this ...
no matter who the QB is we 'win'
this is a great opportunity for Kirk and the Redskins
gotta love this ...
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)