Garcon: "Kirk is the starter"

spudstr04 · Post by **spudstr04** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:30 pm

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/red ... cousins-w/

I hope this is an assumption on his part.

spudstr04 · Post by **spudstr04** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:30 pm

or an amazing job of misdirection

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:35 pm

spudstr04 · Post by **spudstr04** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:37 pm

I don't like that he said, "we are prepared for the worst." I think Kirk can manage the game just fine, worst would be Grossman out there flinging the ball to Joe Haden 2 or 3 times.

We still have an amazing running back that we can lean on.

markshark84 · Post by **markshark84** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:38 pm

I just think that is the mindset MS is forcing the players to hold. MS wants them to know that if KC starts, they will need to vastly step up their game.

I don't see it as a slip up, but it could have very well been or it could have been an attempt at mis-deception. We won't know until Sunday.

But I am POSITIVE MS told his players to treat anbd prepare this week as if KC is starting on Sunday. Because either way, its a win for MS: either KC starts and the players prepared that way OR RGIII starts and they worked that much harder during the week.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:42 pm

spudstr04 wrote:I don't like that he said, "we are prepared for the worst." I think Kirk can manage the game just fine, worst would be Grossman out there flinging the ball to Joe Haden 2 or 3 times.

We still have an amazing running back that we can lean on.

I don't think he meant the worst being Kirk. I think he meant the worst meaning RGIII's injury taking longer to heal.

That comment stood out to me also, but when you re-listen, it's clear that he's talking in terms of preparing for RGIII not being there.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:49 pm

I think it's clear that Kirk will take all of the 1st team reps this week. Because the method of treatment for an LCL Sprain is PRICE

Protect
Rest
Ice
Compression
Elevation

The P is for protect the injury. Not for practice. So, I think this comes down to how RGIII looks in a pre-game workout.

My plan would be to keep him active, and have him there even if Kirk is going to play.

Keep the Browns guessing.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:21 pm

It sounds like RG3 to me - Mike Shanahan is almost as bad with his lying and manipulating as his buddy & friend Bill Belicheat

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:24 pm

It's hard to discern his intention, without listening to it. That sentence can just be a hypothetical situation that he's speaking of.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:27 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:It's hard to discern his intention, without listening to it. That sentence can just be a hypothetical situation that he's speaking of.

Yeah I think the media is making a lot more out of Garcon's statement than there is.

I have one question though. It seems doubtful that RGIII would be able to practice the next couple days. If your QB is a vet like Ben Roethlisberger or something, you sometimes see teams hold a guy out most of the week and still play him on Sunday. Is that a less likely scenario here because we have a rookie QB?

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:27 pm

I would take this with a grain of salt. I'd be willing to bet the coaches themselves aren't 100% decided what will happen yet.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:09 pm

The video of the interview is on the link.

Redskinsfansince81 · Post by **Redskinsfansince81** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:19 pm

What have the coaches said?
I hope this will be a game time decision so the Browns don't know who to prepare for.

spudstr04 · Post by **spudstr04** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:22 pm

I get that it can be taken one way or the other, I just don't like players coming out and saying things that don't help the team. The ONLY benefit from this injury was that the Browns have to plan for both QBs and be ready to defend 2 separate styles, if players are already coming out and talking about who is playing QB, the advantage is lost.

Again, we have no idea if he meant to say it, made a mistake, or has no idea of who the QB is going to be, just wish he'd plead the 5th on that one. Even the analyst knew he shouldn't have said that.

I honestly don't have a problem with Cousins being the QB this Sunday. RG3's health is much more important than Sunday's game.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:54 pm

Can a team really prepare for Cousins, though? It's not like there's tape on him.

FanofallthatisGibbs · Post by **FanofallthatisGibbs** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:59 pm

Redskinsfansince81 wrote:What have the coaches said?
I hope this will be a game time decision so the Browns don't know who to prepare for.

This is exactly what the coaches have done. He is a game time decision, and is not listed as "out" for next Sunday's game vs. the Browns. This is why we have a thread guessing about other players' statements, etc.

What is important to remember is that it is only a ligament sprain, and his surgically repaired ACL in that same knee showed no damage. Basically, a big ass bruised knee. I would put money on it that RGIII will be playing next Sunday, though personally I'd rather save him up for the Eagles and Dallas to wrap up the season. Hard decisions for the coaching staff this week with playoffs now on the line.

welch · Post by **welch** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:41 pm

The Hogster wrote:I think it's clear that Kirk will take all of the 1st team reps this week. Because the method of treatment for an LCL Sprain is PRICE

Protect
Rest
Ice
Compression
Elevation

The P is for protect the injury. Not for practice. So, I think this comes down to how RGIII looks in a pre-game workout.

My plan would be to keep him active, and have him there even if Kirk is going to play.

Keep the Browns guessing.

+1. Convinces me. Although I've wanted to force Griffin to sit out the Browns game ever since I saw tape of the injury, and read that it was a sprain. The knee give Griffin the extra pop to make people miss. Let him rest.

funsho2 · Post by **funsho2** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:47 pm

FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:
Redskinsfansince81 wrote:What have the coaches said?
I hope this will be a game time decision so the Browns don't know who to prepare for.

This is exactly what the coaches have done. He is a game time decision, and is not listed as "out" for next Sunday's game vs. the Browns. This is why we have a thread guessing about other players' statements, etc.

What is important to remember is that it is only a ligament sprain, and his surgically repaired ACL in that same knee showed no damage. Basically, a big ass bruised knee. I would put money on it that RGIII will be playing next Sunday, though personally I'd rather save him up for the Eagles and Dallas to wrap up the season. Hard decisions for the coaching staff this week with playoffs now on the line.

If we lose to cleveland ....season is over...if we can get into the tournament ...anything can happen....look at the giants and packers last two years.....you go with what brought you here....

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:55 pm

funsho2 wrote:If we lose to cleveland ....season is over...if we can get into the tournament ...anything can happen....look at the giants and packers last two years.....you go with what brought you here....

Heart attack? Anxiety? Drama?

:-({|=

Relax, brother. We will win.

funsho2 · Post by **funsho2** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:40 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:
funsho2 wrote:If we lose to cleveland ....season is over...if we can get into the tournament ...anything can happen....look at the giants and packers last two years.....you go with what brought you here....

Heart attack? Anxiety? Drama?

Relax, brother. We will win.

I am just going by the motto if it ain't broke don't try to fix it.....

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:45 pm

We can win this game with either QB - the only thing we need to do is have the defense play decent .. which we would need with either QB

Weeden does not really worry me much and that is who has to make things work offensively for them

Cleveland will be a tough matchup with either QB playing but the defense just needs to keep us in the game

Mike & Kyle will figure out how to score enough points

rskin72 · Post by **rskin72** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:01 pm

Well, I think Garcon may have said more than he should have.....but certainly Cousins will get a huge chunk of the reps this week, and Grossman will probably be suited up as well. I just think that....unless a doctor recommends to sit RGIII.....he will be suited up and will give it a try on Sunday.

If we were to lose to Cleveland, it would not necessarily be the end of the world....all depends on what other teams did. But, we do want to win to keep some control of our destiny.

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:11 pm

Deadskins wrote:Can a team really prepare for Cousins, though? It's not like there's tape on him.

Doubling down on this ... if we start Kirk the Clowns either prepare for the pistol but don't get any and, like you say, have minimal tape on the Captain while if they don't prepare for the pistol we might run it more than they think.

Height: 6’2″
Weight: 214

Hands: 9 7/8″ Arms: 31 3/4″

40: 4.84

Strengths: Decent size and athleticism for the position – Throws a pretty ball and has shown he possesses NFL-level velocity to make the deep out throws – Quick release, little wasted motion – Excellent accuracy from a clean pocket, hits his receivers in stride – Can drop the ball into a bucket down the field, great touch – Has experience playing from under center and in the shotgun – Sells play fakes well – Improved his pocket presence over the course of his career, taking less sacks – Fantastic leadership qualities, very polished off the field.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:09 pm

The game is being replayed NOW on NFL NETWORK. Classic footage and camera angles we don't usually get.

Tune in.

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:16 pm

The Hogster wrote:The game is being replayed NOW on NFL NETWORK. Classic footage and camera angles we don't usually get.

Tune in.

That Morgan pass in the first (the one right before Morris scored) was a Touchdown. He didn't step out.