The Hogster wrote:We don't coach because we don't see what they can. It's ridiculous to blame returns on the return man without seeing the coverage. You don't see that watching the Tube.
DarthMonk wrote:The Hogster wrote:The same logic applies to Banks as Gano. For some reason fans loved Gano, even though he sucked. For some reason, fans hate Banks, even though he's broken many long returns including some for TDs.
Give him time.
Close. For some reason people love Banks even though he sucks.
Like Gano's big leg, Banks can take it all the way. In the meantime we watch him bring it out repeatedly for a negative play. No blocking for Banks is much like no blocking for Gano and the flat out misses by Gano are like Banks making dumb decisions in the endznoe.
How many TDs does he have career? 1.
How many fumbles? 13.
How many inside-the-15 kickoff returns? Too many.
I do not hate Banks. I did not love Gano. Banks has not pulled his weight for a while. I'd consider Hall on punts and anyone else on kickoffs. Not sure who I'd bring up to take his roster spot - probably a pass rusher like Markus White.
The Hogster wrote:We don't coach because we don't see what they can. It's ridiculous to blame returns on the return man without seeing the coverage. You don't see that watching the Tube.
DarthMonk wrote:[
How many fumbles? 13.
How many inside-the-15 kickoff returns? Too many.
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The Hogster wrote:We don't coach because we don't see what they can. It's ridiculous to blame returns on the return man without seeing the coverage. You don't see that watching the Tube.
skinsfan#33 wrote:The fact that he fumbles the ball and NEVER loses a fumble used to bother me, until I realized he never loses a fumble. I know the odds say he will eventually lose a fumble, but until that happens I'm not going to worry.
The Hogster wrote:The Brandon Banks hate comes and goes in cycles. If he beats the Ravens on a return TD, then people will have to dab the foam from their angry mouths until he has another dropoff. LOL
The Hogster wrote:even though he's broken many long returns including some for TDs.
Irn-Bru wrote:I think it's pretty clear the coaches have given up on him. No involvement on offense anymore. With Garcon back and with just a few weeks left to play, there's probably no point in cutting him now. But I'd be willing to bet he's among our pre-draft personnel moves this offseason.
The Hogster wrote:You people don't know what you're talking about. If Banks "sucked" was "cooked" or couldn't "produce" Mike Shanahan would move on.
... unless, of course, Banks continued presence is nothing more than Shanahan simply acknowledging that he's not going to improve the situation by moving on at this point in the season... there's simply not anyone out there that would offer any improvement in performance... so... no point in cutting now.The Hogster wrote:You people don't know what you're talking about. If Banks "sucked" was "cooked" or couldn't "produce" Mike Shanahan would move on.
One thing Mike has shown the ability to is to admit a mistake and cut his losses. You people are not reasonable with your expectations for returners. Just because you see them as highlights every week, doesn't mean that the same guy does it every week.
If you do some simple research, you'll see that Devin Hester, the GOAT in terms of returns, has gone a span of 2 seasons without breaking one.
This is the same biased blather we hear in the offseason. How many times does Mike S have to tell you to chill out.
SMH
Countertrey wrote:... unless, of course, Banks continued presence is nothing more than Shanahan simply acknowledging that he's not going to improve the situation by moving on at this point in the season... there's simply not anyone out there that would offer any improvement in performance... so... no point in cutting now.The Hogster wrote:You people don't know what you're talking about. If Banks "sucked" was "cooked" or couldn't "produce" Mike Shanahan would move on.
One thing Mike has shown the ability to is to admit a mistake and cut his losses. You people are not reasonable with your expectations for returners. Just because you see them as highlights every week, doesn't mean that the same guy does it every week.
If you do some simple research, you'll see that Devin Hester, the GOAT in terms of returns, has gone a span of 2 seasons without breaking one.
This is the same biased blather we hear in the offseason. How many times does Mike S have to tell you to chill out.
SMH
Banks appears to have gone the route of Antwan Randal-el... a master of indecision and bad decision, giving up any advantage that his speed gives him... . but... it's too late to change now.
And, regarding our "expectations for returners"... umm... we don't need him to "consistently break one". We just need him to be consistently effective. We recognize that when we see it.
B Mitch... D Green... M. Nelms. R. Cartright (much slower, but offered consistently solid field position)... our expectations are not excessive... But, we do know what a good returner looks like. SMH
The Hogster wrote:Countertrey wrote:... unless, of course, Banks continued presence is nothing more than Shanahan simply acknowledging that he's not going to improve the situation by moving on at this point in the season... there's simply not anyone out there that would offer any improvement in performance... so... no point in cutting now.The Hogster wrote:You people don't know what you're talking about. If Banks "sucked" was "cooked" or couldn't "produce" Mike Shanahan would move on.
One thing Mike has shown the ability to is to admit a mistake and cut his losses. You people are not reasonable with your expectations for returners. Just because you see them as highlights every week, doesn't mean that the same guy does it every week.
If you do some simple research, you'll see that Devin Hester, the GOAT in terms of returns, has gone a span of 2 seasons without breaking one.
This is the same biased blather we hear in the offseason. How many times does Mike S have to tell you to chill out.
SMH
Banks appears to have gone the route of Antwan Randal-el... a master of indecision and bad decision, giving up any advantage that his speed gives him... . but... it's too late to change now.
And, regarding our "expectations for returners"... umm... we don't need him to "consistently break one". We just need him to be consistently effective. We recognize that when we see it.
B Mitch... D Green... M. Nelms. R. Cartright (much slower, but offered consistently solid field position)... our expectations are not excessive... But, we do know what a good returner looks like. SMH
Obviously not. B Mitch is HOF worthy. D Green is in the HOF and did it in spots. R Cartwright was a consistent KO returner when Kickoffs actually got returned.
The new rules change the game for KOs. As a punt returner, Banks has proven what he's capable of. He has shown it. Even still, you people hate on him during the season and in the offseason. It undermines your argument against him when it seems like you jump at the chance to want him gone.
The Hogster wrote:You people don't know what you're talking about. If Banks "sucked" was "cooked" or couldn't "produce" Mike Shanahan would move on.
One thing Mike has shown the ability to is to admit a mistake and cut his losses. You people are not reasonable with your expectations for returners. Just because you see them as highlights every week, doesn't mean that the same guy does it every week.
If you do some simple research, you'll see that Devin Hester, the GOAT in terms of returns, has gone a span of 2 seasons without breaking one.
This is the same biased blather we hear in the offseason. How many times does Mike S have to tell you to chill out.
SMH
Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said the minimal returns aren’t entirely Banks’s fault. Instead, the coach says, there are a number of other factors to take into account.
“It all depends on the punts and the coverage,”
