Redskins' Head Coach Next Year?

por-tiz2skins · Post by **por-tiz2skins** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:12 pm

BIG THANKS TO WHOM EVER EDITED WILL POOL AND TITLE:)

Im very sure Shanny will not be back if we go 5-11 or 6-10 because of these facts.

-The team is not motivated or have been these past 3 years and maybe more.

-Very poor cap space.

-no first rounders for two years

-Very Poor FA these past 3 years including Joey Galloway-Roydell Williams - Barry Cofield who is not a NT -Josh Wilson- OJ Atogwe - Stephen Bowen

Some are not BAD but highly over price when we could of gotten Cullen Jenkins at our DE we could of gotten Rogers or Arbrayo Franklin for a one year deal . We also re-signed London who was on a decline and I soley believe only did it for the fans . Even so since 2010 London lost a step in the 3-4 he never looked like he did in the 4-3 .

Horrible FA pick ups IMO and is why our D is awful.

- Shanny per Jay Glazer did not like Shannys comments

-Horrible trades too other than Carriker

-Horrible picks other than TW-RG3 and Morris but over all poor.

-Hired the worsr DC for the job and sources say he didnt even want the 3-4 quote Hasslett

-Kyle Contract over after this season. I think he can coach a college team or maybe the Browns or possibly Philly .

So this is the reason why as for the O because I know alot of kissy kissy Shanny fans wanna bring that up we played horrible defenses and note this we been shut down for the past 2 weeks . We will see how it goes about but its been slowed down and been regressing every week no doubt philly will do what Carolina did and rush 4 deadly pass rushers while our offense go up against two good CB's .

Update on situation with Shanny

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ource: Snyder made Shanahan backtrack/spin from his "evaluation" comments.. That explains the awkward Monday presser where Dan was mentioned A lot

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Jesus Christ...this too

#Redskins executive on Shanahan " He is a joke at this point... A real expensive joke"

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IPOD interview about whats going on in Ausburn:

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^^^ Can listen to interview : What it talks about.
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- People around the organization thinks Shanny is a bafoon and a overpriced idiot.

-Sowlik is trying to prevent Raheem the DC and some people inside the organization on defensive staff dont want him as the DC.

-Kyle Shanahan will likely not come back-

-We midiognized Garcon and made his injury much worst and are forcing him to come back and play to try and win some to save Shannys job.

-Coaches are arguing more than gameplanning are are not getting along at all.

-Danny forced Shanny to backtrack what he said and made it seem more positive :.
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andyjens89 · Post by **andyjens89** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:22 pm

Cap space is Shanahan's fault :roll:

We had upwards of $35mm until Mara and Goodell said we violated the imaginary salary cap.

No first rounders = potential hall of fame QB. Either that or be stuck with someone who isn't RGIII....

You're really saying signing some vet min guys is poor FA signings? It's not like they threw $100mm at Haynesworth again.

Cullen Jenkins is not an improvement over Bowen. Fletcher is having a rough year, but he's had some injury issues. He was fantastic the past two years.

"Shanny per Jay Glazer did not like Shannys comments" Makes sense to me...

Horrible picks include: Riley, Kerrigan, Jenkins, Helu, Hankerson, Robinson, Paul, Neild... really not that bad

Haslett may not be the best coach, but we don't have very good players in the secondary. They suck, it's more than just coaching.

Kyle is not going to be a head coach next year. No way.

Philly's defense is awful this year, have you looked at the stats or watched them play?

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:30 pm

Wait.....ARE YOU THE REAL Portiz-2skins....???

Wow, I remember you

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:21 pm

Wattayasay?

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:31 pm

This is DarthMonk's poll, but there was already a topic in Hogwash about it, so the two have been merged.

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:37 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:This is DarthMonk's poll, but there was already a topic in Hogwash about it, so the two have been merged.

Good idea.

Apologies.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:05 pm

It will be Shanahan... but I'll not select the insulting option given in the poll...

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:46 pm

por-tiz2skins wrote: Shanny per Jay Glazer did not like Shannys comments

Wow, even he didn't like his comments. :twisted:

aswas71788 · Post by **aswas71788** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:00 pm

I don't think Shanahan has done such a good job, in fact a lousy job, but I think he will get one more year. If the Redskins are not in the hunt for a playoff berth next year, I can see him leaving town.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:29 pm

Mike S. will be with us next year. Guaranteed.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:38 pm

Mike Shanahan will not be fired and will be the coach next year.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:19 am

tribeofjudah wrote:Wait.....ARE YOU THE REAL Portiz-2skins....???

Good question.... Let's see

por-tiz2skins wrote:
BIG THANKS TO WHOM EVER EDITED WILL POOL AND TITLE:)

First sentence is bold and :shock:

ALL CAPS...

por-tiz2skins wrote:Im very sure Shanny will not be back if we go 5-11 or 6-10 because of these facts.

Almost a definitive statement, with a promise of fact to follow...

but NO FACTS follow

por-tiz2skins wrote:
-The team is not motivated or have been these past 3 years and maybe more.

Inaccurate statement being passed on as a fact... but if true this would be the first organized sports team in the history of sports to go through a rebuild, while getting younger, and offering opportunities based solely on performance that nets a unmotivated roster.

Moss has one of those "Vinny C" contracts and could have shown up 20 lbs. overweight and wouldn't have went anywhere until after June, Niles Paul went through a position change and this year was a gimme for him. Both of these unmotivated players took their time off to adjust their weight to fit the teams needs when they could have waited until OTA and training camp to do it. They weren't the guys that came into camp after dropping weight or adding weight during the off-season based on their roles on the team.

It might be p2s

por-tiz2skins wrote:-Very poor cap space.

A un-researched opinion stated as a fact... this sure seems like the work of THE REAL Portiz-2skins

There were 12 teams with less cap space than the Redskins when free agency started (CapGate hit right before the market opened), and Shanny had nothing to do with it. It's a known fact that the team did nothing wrong and if they had it would have been on Bruce Allen not MS.

por-tiz2skins wrote:-no first rounders for two years

Currently this is a fact... but teams still make trades and we don't know what will happen between now and April of next year or the year after that. I'm pretty sure there won't be another RGIII in either of those drafts.

Six in one hand, half a dozen in the other.... I guessing it's him but not really sure.

por-tiz2skins wrote:-Very Poor FA these past 3 years including Joey Galloway-Roydell Williams - Barry Cofield who is not a NT -Josh Wilson- OJ Atogwe - Stephen Bowen

Some are not BAD but highly over price when we could of gotten Cullen Jenkins at our DE we could of gotten Rogers or Arbrayo Franklin for a one year deal . We also re-signed London who was on a decline and I soley believe only did it for the fans . Even so since 2010 London lost a step in the 3-4 he never looked like he did in the 4-3 .

Horrible FA pick ups IMO and is why our D is awful.

In one thought he went from Very Poor free agents, to not BAD but overpaid, to Horrible.

Hare's a fact... as of today Cofield and Bowen combined have out performed the combination of the two lineman that were mentioned as better for the team (both individually wanted about what the the Skins paid to get both Bowen and Cofield). If the four of them were ranked individually it would be Cofield one, Bowen two, the dude from Phithy and then the guy with the funny first name.

If that doesn't prove that this is THE REAL Portiz-2skins

por-tiz2skins wrote:- Shanny per Jay Glazer did not like Shannys comments

This sure did ROTFALMAO

tribeofjudah wrote:Wow, I remember you

He un4gettable...

Welcome back p2s

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:12 am

I answered the question as to which HC I would prefer - I do NOT like Mike

There is NO doubt in my opinion that Mike will be the HC next season

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:59 am

por-tiz2skins wrote:We also re-signed London who was on a decline and I soley believe only did it for the fans . Even so since 2010 London lost a step in the 3-4 he never looked like he did in the 4-3 .

Yeah, he only led the NFL in tackles last season, and is the undeniable captain of the defense. :roll:

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:47 am

Shanahan.

Good day to you all and to all a good night.

DaSkinz Baby · Post by **DaSkinz Baby** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:09 am

andyjens89 wrote:Cap space is Shanahan's fault We had upwards of $35mm until Mara and Goodell said we violated the imaginary salary cap.

No first rounders = potential hall of fame QB. Either that or be stuck with someone who isn't RGIII....

You're really saying signing some vet min guys is poor FA signings? It's not like they threw $100mm at Haynesworth again.

Cullen Jenkins is not an improvement over Bowen. Fletcher is having a rough year, but he's had some injury issues. He was fantastic the past two years.

"Shanny per Jay Glazer did not like Shannys comments" Makes sense to me...

Horrible picks include: Riley, Kerrigan, Jenkins, Helu, Hankerson, Robinson, Paul, Neild... really not that bad

Haslett may not be the best coach, but we don't have very good players in the secondary. They suck, it's more than just coaching.

Kyle is not going to be a head coach next year. No way.

Philly's defense is awful this year, have you looked at the stats or watched them play?

Dude you seem to forget one fact ANY AND EVERY TEAM THAT PLAYS US LOOKS LIKE A SUPERBOWL TEAM. Did you not just see a 1-6 team beat us at home? Do you think the Panthers are better than the Eagles? LMAO if you do I want what you are drinking. It wouldn't surprise me if the Eagles drop 49 points on us. Andy Reid against Jim Haslett isn't a good match dude!!

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:15 am

:yawn:

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:59 pm

DaSkinz Baby wrote:Dude you seem to forget one fact ANY AND EVERY TEAM THAT PLAYS US LOOKS LIKE A SUPERBOWL TEAM. Did you not just see a 1-6 team beat us at home? Do you think the Panthers are better than the Eagles? LMAO if you do I want what you are drinking. It wouldn't surprise me if the Eagles drop 49 points on us. Andy Reid against Jim Haslett isn't a good match dude!!

Anything can happen in these NFC east games, maybe you're right about the 49 points. Wouldn't surprise me either way.

We'll find out soon enough about Panthers v. Eagles. They play in two weeks. If I was betting, I think I'd take Cam Newton/Panthers over Nick Foles/Eagles. Panthers lost to the Falcons on a crazy last minute fumble. Eagles lost to the Falcons in a 30-17 a**-whipping. Panthers are 4th in the NFL with 3 sacks per game. The Eagles' o-line has lost what? 4 starters to injury? I'm not really sure what you're basing the greatness of the Eagles on this season.

And this is just a clownish statement about "every team looks like a super bowl team" against us. 5 of our 7 losses were decided by 7 points or less. But why let facts get in the way of your whining?

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:24 pm

DaSkinz Baby wrote:Dude you seem to forget one fact ANY AND EVERY TEAM THAT PLAYS US LOOKS LIKE A SUPERBOWL TEAM.

Hmm.

Except for the Saints, Bucs, Falcons, Vikings, and Giants. And Atlanta looked vulnerable too.

So if we stretch our imagination in your favor, you are only 2/3rds wrong. That is much better than your batting average, so I concede this was a pretty good point for you.

DaSkinz Baby · Post by **DaSkinz Baby** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:41 pm

Irn-Bru wrote:
DaSkinz Baby wrote:Dude you seem to forget one fact ANY AND EVERY TEAM THAT PLAYS US LOOKS LIKE A SUPERBOWL TEAM.

Hmm.

Except for the Saints, Bucs, Falcons, Vikings, and Giants. And Atlanta looked vulnerable too.

So if we stretch our imagination in your favor, you are only 2/3rds wrong. That is much better than your batting average, so I concede this was a pretty good point for you.

Look at the overall issue, in most cases teams we are "supposed" to beat we lose to, hence the comment about looking like a superbowl team. It amazes me how many people on here are content with us losing by a few points. What's the difference if you lose by 1, 10 or 100 it's still a loss. I guess the Wizards are good too because they have come close! Have you all thought that perhaps the other teams chose not to put more points up as to make it look not as bad as it could have been??? Just saying think outside the box and stop giving this moronic coaching staff credit it doesn't deserve!!

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:51 pm

DaSkinz Baby wrote:Have you all thought that perhaps the other teams chose not to put more points up as to make it look not as bad as it could have been???

That's laughable. It's not like the other teams had insurmountable leads. Heck, most of them were trailing at some point in the 4th quarter. Why would they let up if they didn't have at least a two score lead?

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:57 pm

Look at the overall issue, in most cases teams we are "supposed" to beat we lose to, hence the comment about looking like a superbowl team.

Yes, a total non sequitur.

It amazes me how many people on here are content with us losing by a few points.

Please show me an example of someone saying "I'm content that we lose by a few points."

Don't have one? I thought not.

Have you all thought that perhaps the other teams chose not to put more points up as to make it look not as bad as it could have been???

That would be an amazing conspiracy. I bet they do it so that Snyder won't get mad and fire Shanny, and that way they get to keep playing against an incompetent coach! Now that is some long-term planning. :lol:

everydayAskinsday · Post by **everydayAskinsday** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:23 pm

I could very easily see Dan Snyder giving into his constant need for change in the pursuit of the big name coach..

IMO a perfect storm is brewing.. Mike and Kyle have shown that to a degree the read option can work in the NFL with the right QB ( which we have ) and the big name coach who is the new hot commodity will be Chip Kelly this year who has nearly perfected a similar offense at Oregon and is being rumored to be looking to head to the NFL this year after almost agreeing to coaching the BUCS last year

let me be clear in saying I DO NOT want this to happen and I do think Mike will be back BUT nothing surprises me with this team and Chip Kelly is setting up to be the classic Dan Snyder move and once an addict always an addict, IF we continue to struggle and the calls for Mike to be fired get louder than who knows how things will play out.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:42 pm

DaSkinz Baby wrote:Look at the overall issue, in most cases teams we are "supposed" to beat we lose to, hence the comment about looking like a superbowl team.

This "supposed to beat" thing is equally clownish. Everybody was saying we were "supposed to beat" the Rams when we played them. Did you see the Rams against the 49ers last Sunday? Yeah, probably a little better than we thought. How about the Bucs? Better than we thought. Anybody looking at NFL games and saying this team is SUPPOSED to beat this team is a sucker.

DaSkinz Baby wrote:It amazes me how many people on here are content with us losing by a few points. What's the difference if you lose by 1, 10 or 100 it's still a loss.

Dude, you're free to set up these straw men, but your argument is still just as lame. Nobody said they were content to lose by a few points. You wrote that the Skins have been making every team look like the 85 Bears this season. Sorry but that is demonstrably not true. The games have been close.

Nice try on changing your argument though.

DaSkinz Baby · Post by **DaSkinz Baby** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:08 pm

riggofan wrote:
DaSkinz Baby wrote:Look at the overall issue, in most cases teams we are "supposed" to beat we lose to, hence the comment about looking like a superbowl team.

This "supposed to beat" thing is equally clownish. Everybody was saying we were "supposed to beat" the Rams when we played them. Did you see the Rams against the 49ers last Sunday? Yeah, probably a little better than we thought. How about the Bucs? Better than we thought. Anybody looking at NFL games and saying this team is SUPPOSED to beat this team is a sucker.

DaSkinz Baby wrote:It amazes me how many people on here are content with us losing by a few points. What's the difference if you lose by 1, 10 or 100 it's still a loss.

Dude, you're free to set up these straw men, but your argument is still just as lame. Nobody said they were content to lose by a few points. You wrote that the Skins have been making every team look like the 85 Bears this season. Sorry but that is demonstrably not true. The games have been close.

Nice try on changing your argument though.

My argument is just as lame as the records this team has had since the "Hall of Fame" coach has been here. #NuffSaid

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