Next POTUS after NOV 2012 election?

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Who will be Next POTUS come Nov.....

Barack Obama
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Mitt Romney
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Lmao! What a tool..
Obama pwned him from the get go.
College kid asks what they would do to help him and other grads get a good job after college.
Romney say a bunch of words but not one thing about what he would do, or how.
Obama gave him five DIRECT answers to what he proposed to do.

Seriously tho, they need to get a hold on these debates. It's like watching the scab refs try to manage a game #epicfail
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I like this photo much better:

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O....bamaNation
No....Bamacare
NO...bama


55% of medical doctors don't support Nobamacare. Socialized, cookie cutter type of medical.

We are all genetically diverse, thus we need individualized medicine. Let the doctors do their jobs.

USA might as well file for Chapter 7....under this admin.

WE are bankrupt.
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lmao@darth's pic!!!!

Binder full of women.. smh.

I tell yuh, politics is a hard thing indeed but I'm pretty sure I can run for an office, Romney is definitely the "hey if I can do it, ANYONE can" guy.
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Women in the Obama White House make 18% less than their male counterparts.

Fair to women... smh...
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Countertrey wrote:Women in the Obama White House make 18% less than their male counterparts.

Fair to women... smh...


smh. that's f'n ridiculous
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Countertrey wrote:Women in the Obama White House make 18% less than their male counterparts.

So Barak earns 18% more than Michelle?
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Michelle isn't a government employee... she just takes million dollar vacations at our expense...
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But she's a woman in the Obama White House.
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Deadskins wrote:But she's a woman in the Obama White House.


Lafayette Park is across the street from the White House
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Countertrey wrote:Michelle isn't a government employee... she just takes million dollar vacations at our expense...


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KazooSkinsFan wrote:
Deadskins wrote:But she's a woman in the Obama White House.

Lafayette Park is across the street from the White House

I hadn't considered that. You make a persuasive argument. Then again, Ben Franklin wanted the turkey to be the national bird, so...
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tribeofjudah wrote:I like this photo much better:

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In truth, the Most Interesting Man in the World supports President Obama. Jonathan Goldsmith, this actor, held a fundraiser for the President; $50 to $200 a plate.

(note in Huffington Post)

Incidentally, the Most Interesting Man in the World once served as a redshirt -- a crewman on the starship Enterprise, original series -- and was NOT killed. (info thanks to George Takei's always hilarious website)

[This ends my temporary job as fact-checker in this thread.]
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Deadskins wrote:But she's a woman in the Obama White House.
If that, in your mind, somehow mitigates Barry's incredible hypocracy, then knock yourself out!
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Here's to BARRY:

Barack Obama Running From Barry Soetoro

By Larry Johnson on August 20, 2012 at 1:45 PM in Current Affairs

* Bumped Up From 2011, More Relevant Than Ever *

[UPDATE--This was an issue last year and, because of a recent surge of comments on this particular post, I decided to bump it up and let you have a shot at it in 2012. Let's see how far back in Romney's past the Obama team wants to go. I think the issue of Obama's stepfather, Lolo, is relevant only to the extent that it is a part of his life he has worked hard to cover up.]

While Donald Trump pursues the dead end that Barack Obama was born in Kenya (HE WAS NOT), the actual elephant in the room that most of the media and pundits studiously ignore is the fact that Barack Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and, for most of his life as a child and teenager, Barack was commonly known as Barry Soetoro. The adoption was processed in Indonesia after Barry and his mother moved to Indonesia. The adoption was carried out in Indonesia and not the United States.

Barry Obama’s mom married an Indonesian student named Lolo Soetoro in 1966. The new family moved to Indonesia in 1967 and the six year old Barry was enrolled in school. Barack Obama has not released his adoption records, but the adoption took place in the 1966-67. How do we know?

Look at the enrollment card:

Actually, this document also provides strong circumstantial evidence to buttress the claim that Barry Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii. How?

Obama was enrolled by his parents in a public school, Fransiskus Assisi School, a public school, in Jakarta, Indonesia.

The school registration clearly states Obama’s name as “Barry Soetoro,” and lists his citizenship as Indonesian. Obama’s father is listed as Lolo Soetoro. PLEASE NOTE ITEM NUMBER TWO–Obama’s place of birth is Honolulu (Hawaii) and date of birth is 4-8-1961 (the Indonesians put the date, ie “4,” and then the month, ie “8.” He is identified as a Citizen of Indonesia.

So does this mean Barack Obama is ineligible to be President? No. He did not renounce his American citizenship. By virtue of being born in Hawaii to a U.S. citizen, his mother, he is a U.S. citizen.

Now, look at the Hawaiian law governing adoptions. Here are the relevant portions:

Access to Original Birth Certificate
Citation: Rev. Stat. §§ 578-14; 578-15; 338-20

If a new birth certificate is issued, the original birth certificate shall be sealed. The sealed document may be opened by the department only by an order of a court or when requested in accordance with § 578-15.

The birth parent may be provided a copy of the original birth certificate upon request.

Barry Obama’s birth father did not have to consent to the adoption because he had been out of the picture for more than two years. According to Hawaiian law (I have put the relevant paragraphs in bold):

When Parental Consent is not Needed
Citation: Rev. Stat. § 578-2
Consent is not required from the following:

A parent who has deserted a child for a period of 90 days without affording means of identification
A parent who has voluntarily surrendered the care and custody of the child to another for a period of 2 years
A parent, whose child is in the custody of another, who has failed for a period of at least 1year to communicate with the child or provide for the care and support of the child when able to do so
A natural father who was not married to the child’s mother at the time of the child’s conception or birth and has not established paternity
A parent whose parental rights have been judicially terminated
A parent judicially declared mentally ill, mentally retarded, or incapacitated from giving consent
Any legal guardian or custodian who is found by the court to be withholding consent unreasonably
A parent of a child who has been in the custody of a petitioner for at least 1 year and who entered the United States as a consequence of extraordinary circumstances in the child’s country of origin, by reason of which the existence, identity, or whereabouts of the child’s parents is not reasonably ascertainable or there is no reasonable means of obtaining suitable evidence of the child’s identity or availability for adoption
Any parent of the adoptee if the adoptee is an adult eligible for adoption under this section
A parent whose parental and custodial duties and rights have been divested by an award of permanent custody pursuant to § 587-73

Barry Obama was adopted in Indonesia, not the United States. The relevant Hawaiian statute states:

State Recognition of Intercountry Adoptions Finalized Abroad

To better understand this issue and to view it across States, download the PDF (414 KB) of this publication.
Effect and Recognition of a Foreign Adoption Decree
Citation: Rev. Stat. § 578-8(c)

In cases in which a child is adopted from a foreign country and is brought into the State, the court, in its discretion, may dispense with a hearing upon receipt of a sworn affidavit, ex parte, from the adoptive parents requesting that the hearing be dispensed with, and upon a finding that the issues it would have reviewed have received full consideration by the country from which the child was adopted and the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.



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Countertrey wrote:
Deadskins wrote:But she's a woman in the Obama White House.
If that, in your mind, somehow mitigates Barry's incredible hypocracy, then knock yourself out!

Just out of curiosity, what was the percentage in Bush's White House, and what is it in current day corporate America? If you want others to share in your righteous indignation about this, you should show that Barry is really underperforming those numbers.
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Countertrey wrote:Women in the Obama White House make 18% less than their male counterparts.

Fair to women... smh...


Does this mean 2 people do the same job and the woman makes less? Or does it mean if you simply compute an average regardless of job tiltle the women average 18% less? Also, who set the rates?

I think nationally it's 28% less for the same job.

Just asking.
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DarthMonk wrote:I think nationally it's 28% less for the same job.

So Barry is outperforming the market in this area? Then CT is paying him a complement? That doesn't sound right. :hmm:
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I still got Obama 50-49 (pop) and 288-250 (elec) with the single most likely outcome being 330-208. Last 2 debates stopped movement to Romney. His best bet is bad weather coupled with "voter fraud" id chicanery. I give him a 1 in 3 chance.

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DarthMonk wrote:
Countertrey wrote:Women in the Obama White House make 18% less than their male counterparts.

Fair to women... smh...


Does this mean 2 people do the same job and the woman makes less? Or does it mean if you simply compute an average regardless of job tiltle the women average 18% less? Also, who set the rates?

I think nationally it's 28% less for the same job.

Just asking.


Found it:

When all White House employees are considered ... female employees earn a median salary of $60,000, roughly 18 percent less than men, whose median salary is $71,000.

I'm sure the top 2 are men. Except for the VP and COS all cabinet officials make the same salary - $199,700.

Haven't found a "same job" discrepancy ... yet.

"Broad brush" is a an effective buy fallacious argument.
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This seems fair:

Mr. Obama has taken steps to ensure that senior women in the White House on average make as much or more than men.

In the highest-paid positions when Mr. Bush was in office — aides making $151,000 — four of 14 were women: Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser; Harriet Miers, a deputy chief of staff; Dina Powell, an assistant to the president for personnel; and Mary Spellings, an assistant for domestic policy.

In 2011, Mr. Obama had seven women compared with 14 men making the top White House salary — $172,000 — an increase of three women in the top ranks from the Bush administration's third year. Those women are: Valerie Jarrett, a senior adviser; Melody Barnes, director of domestic policy; Stephanie Cutter, who served as deputy senior adviser before moving to the campaign; Nancy-Ann DeParle and Alyssa Mastromonaco, deputy chiefs of staff; Kathryn Ruemmler, White House counsel; and Christina Tchen, director of the White House Office of Public Engagement.

And statistics don't tell the whole story. Despite progress on closing pay disparities and hiring women for senior roles, the president has incurred persistent criticism that women in his White House for the most part are kept out of the inner circle.

The same woman who was one of Mr. Obama's debate coaches, Anita Dunn, complained that the White House when she worked there would have been in court for being a "hostile workplace" for women, according to Ron Suskind's book "Confidence Men." Ms. Dunn says she was misquoted.

Even though some of his brashest, testosterone-pumped aides such as Rahm Emanuel and Bill Daley, his two former chiefs of staffs schooled in in-your-face, Chicago-style politics, have left the White House, and David Axelrod, his senior adviser, has moved on to the campaign, the president has faced a nagging perception of the White House as an exclusive boys club.

Mrs. Jarrett is undeniably one of Mr. Obama's closest and most influential advisers, but since the first year Mr. Obama took office, he has struggled to dispel the notion that women were taking a back seat to men in influencing the president. At one point in late 2009, women in the White House felt so marginalized that Mr. Obama held a dinner to let the senior female aides voice their complaints directly to him.
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Monk, Gallup has it 51-45... slip sliding away...
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