RayNAustin wrote:Lookie here .... we can theorize and analyze till hell freezes over about this thing or that thing ... but the bottom line still rests with the HC.
Agreed, and from that standard Mike has done a great job. We are younger, drafting well. We have a franchise QB and for the first time in years our QB is throwing the ball to more than two guys. Our O-line is improving. And our D showed yesterday rumors of their demise have been greatly exaggerated even with two of our best guys out.
The bottom line for the is the HC, hats off Mike. Our future is rosier then it has been in years.
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skinsfan#33 wrote:The offensive game plan was terrible. You have a running game that is working, keep feeding AM the ball. Atlanta never did stop that pitch left play. I think they ran it about 3 or 4 times and the least number of yards it gained was 9!
The other thing on the running game was with all the passes, we needed to send an occasional throw down field to keep the D honest. We got repeatedly poor field position and their plan was to keep everything in front of them and make us get 7 first downs to score, which every time at some point we wouldn't get the 10 in 3 and they'd get the ball back. We did the same to them, but they have a more experienced QB and a great receiving corps and eventually they wore out our D.
Also, we did run it more then people are giving credit. People are saying 19, but as a percentage of the number of plays we ran it's more then it seemed. We didn't mix it up enough, we'd get some first downs then stall.
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I like the place this franchise is at and the progress we have made
This team is fun to watch but ......
We have some big problems with offense, defense and special teams - Mike has got to do a better job with Kyle, Jim and Danny
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
skinsfan#33 wrote:The only negative I can say about the defensive game plan is Haz could have tossed in a blitz invert in a while, but the defense did their part yesterday!
I'd say the only complaint I had with the D was that they allowed Atlanta to convert on way too many 3rd a longs....you get a team in a 3rd and long situation you've got to force a punt, it's as simple as that....when you don't that leads to a loss....especially when the offense isn't producing...
skinsfan#33 wrote:The offensive game plan was terrible. You have a running game that is working, keep feeding AM the ball. Atlanta never did stop that pitch left play. I think they ran it about 3 or 4 times and the least number of yards it gained was 9!
The other thing on the running game was with all the passes, we needed to send an occasional throw down field to keep the D honest. We got repeatedly poor field position and their plan was to keep everything in front of them and make us get 7 first downs to score, which every time at some point we wouldn't get the 10 in 3 and they'd get the ball back. We did the same to them, but they have a more experienced QB and a great receiving corps and eventually they wore out our D.
Also, we did run it more then people are giving credit. People are saying 19, but as a percentage of the number of plays we ran it's more then it seemed. We didn't mix it up enough, we'd get some first downs then stall.
The NFL is a pssing league now...meaning the key to success is throwing the ball to set up the running game...there aren't many teams that can do the opposite (maybe the 49ers can do it)....the way to win consistantly in today's NFL is pass, pass, pass until you get a lead, then wear down the defense and run the clock with a running game...the Skins aren't doing this and it's a big part of the reason they're 2-3....
Here it comes. So freaking predictable. We lost a 24-17 game without our star QB to a 4-0 team. Whose fault is it? Kyle Shanahan's of course.
Give me a freaking break already.
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riggofan wrote:Here it comes. So freaking predictable. We lost a 24-17 game without our star QB to a 4-0 team. Whose fault is it? Kyle Shanahan's of course.
Give me a freaking break already.
The offense was struggling with the star QB and it was clear that even with a successful running game, the O couldn't get in rhythmn. If this was new to this game, then I would say that you have a point. We saw this all to often last year.
This is systematic problem and when there are problems with the O. It usually points to the OC.
I don't think we lost this game because of any one player or coach
I'm just pointing to issues with the offense, defense and special teams
the responsibility for these issues is with Mike - he's the HC - He needs to do a better job
this team is showing some very encouraging signs and while we are still an 8 win franchise we are showing some promise - at the same time there are some things that have been happening over the past 5 games that are not getting better
run the damn ball - having our defense on the field for 80 plays is just stupid
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
riggofan wrote:Here it comes. So freaking predictable. We lost a 24-17 game without our star QB to a 4-0 team. Whose fault is it? Kyle Shanahan's of course.
Give me a freaking break already.
there are a number of teams with 2 wins, or less that are much better than we are
there are teams with 3 or more wins that are not much better than we are
means NOTHING
it's disapointing to see some players and coaches not doing their jobs as well as they can
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
riggofan wrote:Here it comes. So freaking predictable. We lost a 24-17 game without our star QB to a 4-0 team. Whose fault is it? Kyle Shanahan's of course.
Give me a freaking break already.
What's not predictable is that I'm on the side of those criticizing him. I didn't say he sucks as an OC either. I just said the play calling in this game wasn't good. I stand by it. It seems like the emphasis is preventing RG3 from making a rookie mistake. I don't disagree with doing that to an extent, but I don't agree with it to the point of losing and that's what I thought we did.
Hail to the Redskins!
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Twain: A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way
Yeah I think Kyle's biggest mistake yesterday was the five dropped passes. He should really do a better job catching those balls.
Seriously, I agree with people saying run the ball more. Catch the ball when its in your hands, convert those third downs and give Alfred Morris a chance to run the ball more.
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I'm not saying Kyle is a bad OC - i just wish he would either adjust his play calling and system to suit who he has .. or leave
Kyle does not catch or throw the ball and we don't have a really good WR like Julio Jones - DUH
if these guys are going to drop the ball - get someone on the field that can catch the ball - we have more than a few - stir it up
we do have a QB that looks like he'll be one of the best in the NFL soon - make the adjustments to take advantage of who you have on the field
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
riggofan wrote:Here it comes. So freaking predictable. We lost a 24-17 game without our star QB to a 4-0 team. Whose fault is it? Kyle Shanahan's of course.
Give me a freaking break already.
there are a number of teams with 2 wins, or less that are much better than we are
there are teams with 3 or more wins that are not much better than we are
means NOTHING
Yeah sure. I can agree with that. But I think we can all agree the Falcons are currently one of the better teams in the league by pretty much every measurable there is.
Your larger point that the players (and coaches too) needed to execute to beat a team like that is what's important.
