Postgame thread

[Red_One43]

No secondary.

Poor OL.

Terrible defensive game plan.

How long before our brand new QB ends up in the hospital?

And people were saying that we were alright at OL and there were only a few "questions" about our secondary.

I do not think I have seen a worse Redskins defense in my entire life as a Skins fan going back to 1969.

This is EMBARRASSING.

Somebody MUST be accountable for this mess.

People were saying we were alright at O line so long as Trent didn't go down early. I don't remember anyone saying that they were comfortable with Black as the swing tackle. Trent did go down early and the worst nighmare came true. What most folks defending the O line were saying is we don't need numbers we need quality and most fans defending the O line understood that the $36 mil hit might have altered the ShanAllen plan when it came to the O line.

Now here are the questions that I have for Shanny and our O line.

Why did the Rams make due with picking up Wayne Hunter from the Jets and we stayed with Black or why did Shanny let Willie Smith go and stay with Black? These are not numbers questions, but quality.

To me here lies the problem. Black as your swing tackle. Last year it was Locklear as your swing tackle. That is Shanny making personnel decisions. What is he thinking? I don't know.

We have depth (at guard). We have O line draft choices. The real question is do we have the right guys as depth and for tackle position and the answer is clearly no.

[tribeofjudah]

No secondary.

Poor OL.

Terrible defensive game plan.

How long before our brand new QB ends up in the hospital?

And people were saying that we were alright at OL and there were only a few "questions" about our secondary.

I do not think I have seen a worse Redskins defense in my entire life as a Skins fan going back to 1969.

This is EMBARRASSING.

Somebody MUST be accountable for this mess.

it's the Mara's.....they did this to us

[Red_One43]

Everyone knows that I don't sugar coat anything, so why start now.

#1 - Mike Shanahan is now 12-23 as the Redskin HC. That's 3 games worse than Jim Zorn, (12-20) who was laughed out of town after being publicly castrated by the front office and relegated to the Head Clipboard holder for the 2nd half of his 2nd season.

#2 - Mike Shanahan has won 1 division title in the last 12 years (2005). His claim to fame came in 1997-1998. But over the past 5 seasons 3 with denver @500 ... he is 11 games under 500 including season 3 with the Redskins. That gets everyone fired .... Denver fired him for going 500 for three seasons.

#3 - His Son, Kyle has been worse .... with questionable play calling and a totally inept offense for the first two seasons ... this year, he seems ready to use his world class QB like a pack mule, and grind him right into the ground. And RG3 is the ONLY REASON this putrid offense has been successful. At the current rate, RG3 won't even be on the field by game 10, if this idiot continues to use him as a battering ram. This beating the kid is taking takes me back to when Patrick Ramsey was close to being a murder victim because of the "Old Ball Coach", Spurrier. And after Josh Morgan's bone headed personal foul at the end of last week's game, Kyle Shanahan does the same thing this week, as he draws a 20 yard penalty for going into a profanity laced tirade at an official. He will also likely to be sanctioned by the league this week, since the NFL sent out a letter to all teams this past week warning that such behavior toward the replacement refs will not be tolerated and be dealt with harshly. How do you convince your players to maintain composure, when the coach can't?

#4 - The defense ... who freaking knows what the heck is going on there. Is it a coincidence that we hire a new secondary coach and the secondary looks like they couldn't stop DeMatha high school? It seems that we now have no one who can cover decent to good receivers, and it's pitch and catch and back breaking big plays two, three, and four times per game.

#5 - Special Teams has been questionable with two blocked punts in the first 2 games

Bottom line is that this team is undisciplined and inconsistent, and other than the rookie QB, everything else is a crap shoot week to week. The coaching staff ... offense and defense seems to be totally out coached, out-strategized, and out prepared as witnessed the past two weeks as we have been totally run over in the first half of these games by opponents who seem to know exactly what to do against us.

Almost singlehandedly, RG3 has found a way to keep these games competitive. Without RG3, the last two weeks would have been total blow outs by average teams. Unfortunately, a lot of the success on offense is coming from running college formations, and not Kyle's standard offense, with this double and triple option that RG3 keeps getting pounded on unmercifully almost every time. 6 sacks, 13 hits, and 12 runs just today. This is total insanity .... but par for the course given the previous mishandling of 3 other QBs in two seasons ... now Kyle Shanahan seems ready to literally sacrifice RG3's body in his quest to put some sort of functional offense on the field.

Whatever success the Redskins may realize with RG3 at the helm, it will be in spite of, and not because of the Shanahan clan. Dumb and Dumber have to go. Poor decision, poor clock management, and being out coached and and out-game-planned most weeks, and a putrid 11 games under 500 would get Vince Lombardi fired. A reputation that has 12 years of dust covering it does not justify giving this coaching staff a hall pass.

I went to the game and left with this feeling. It is great that RGIII gives us a chance to win when we are two TDs down. I have to agree that RGIII is what makes this offense go. His threat makes Morris even better.

Though, I wouldn't put the rest of what you said the way you said it, I can't disagree with you on anything that you said. Into the third year, we are seeing some of the same issues in coaching staff that we should be long past. It is almost like revisiting 2010 except we have RGIII and a few other offensive weapons, Garcon (not playing though) and Morris to name a few. Your points and bottomline are sobering to me.

[gibbsfan]

No secondary.

Poor OL.

Terrible defensive game plan.

How long before our brand new QB ends up in the hospital?

And people were saying that we were alright at OL and there were only a few "questions" about our secondary.

I do not think I have seen a worse Redskins defense in my entire life as a Skins fan going back to 1969.
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This is EMBARRASSING.


Somebody MUST be accountable for this mess.

+1

[spenser]

Everyone knows that I don't sugar coat anything, so why start now.

#1 - Mike Shanahan is now 12-23 as the Redskin HC. That's 3 games worse than Jim Zorn, (12-20) who was laughed out of town after being publicly castrated by the front office and relegated to the Head Clipboard holder for the 2nd half of his 2nd season.

#2 - Mike Shanahan has won 1 division title in the last 12 years (2005). His claim to fame came in 1997-1998. But over the past 5 seasons 3 with denver @500 ... he is 11 games under 500 including season 3 with the Redskins. That gets everyone fired .... Denver fired him for going 500 for three seasons.

#3 - His Son, Kyle has been worse .... with questionable play calling and a totally inept offense for the first two seasons ... this year, he seems ready to use his world class QB like a pack mule, and grind him right into the ground. And RG3 is the ONLY REASON this putrid offense has been successful. At the current rate, RG3 won't even be on the field by game 10, if this idiot continues to use him as a battering ram. This beating the kid is taking takes me back to when Patrick Ramsey was close to being a murder victim because of the "Old Ball Coach", Spurrier. And after Josh Morgan's bone headed personal foul at the end of last week's game, Kyle Shanahan does the same thing this week, as he draws a 20 yard penalty for going into a profanity laced tirade at an official. He will also likely to be sanctioned by the league this week, since the NFL sent out a letter to all teams this past week warning that such behavior toward the replacement refs will not be tolerated and be dealt with harshly. How do you convince your players to maintain composure, when the coach can't?

#4 - The defense ... who freaking knows what the heck is going on there. Is it a coincidence that we hire a new secondary coach and the secondary looks like they couldn't stop DeMatha high school? It seems that we now have no one who can cover decent to good receivers, and it's pitch and catch and back breaking big plays two, three, and four times per game.

#5 - Special Teams has been questionable with two blocked punts in the first 2 games

Bottom line is that this team is undisciplined and inconsistent, and other than the rookie QB, everything else is a crap shoot week to week. The coaching staff ... offense and defense seems to be totally out coached, out-strategized, and out prepared as witnessed the past two weeks as we have been totally run over in the first half of these games by opponents who seem to know exactly what to do against us.

Almost singlehandedly, RG3 has found a way to keep these games competitive. Without RG3, the last two weeks would have been total blow outs by average teams. Unfortunately, a lot of the success on offense is coming from running college formations, and not Kyle's standard offense, with this double and triple option that RG3 keeps getting pounded on unmercifully almost every time. 6 sacks, 13 hits, and 12 runs just today. This is total insanity .... but par for the course given the previous mishandling of 3 other QBs in two seasons ... now Kyle Shanahan seems ready to literally sacrifice RG3's body in his quest to put some sort of functional offense on the field.

Whatever success the Redskins may realize with RG3 at the helm, it will be in spite of, and not because of the Shanahan clan. Dumb and Dumber have to go. Poor decision, poor clock management, and being out coached and and out-game-planned most weeks, and a putrid 11 games under 500 would get Vince Lombardi fired. A reputation that has 12 years of dust covering it does not justify giving this coaching staff a hall pass.

Oh Snap. Torched. Thank you for saying everything that I wanted to say but was to frustrated to do so. I'm all for consistency and patience, but there has to be some sort of tangible results at some point, and I have yet to see that. Yes we are deeper, younger, and have drafted well last few years, but for all the aforementioned reasons you so thoroughly stated I agree 100%

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Saints 0-3, az 3-0, Oakland beats Pitt, Detroit gives up 44...
We lost, big whoop. Rgiii is legit. BIG time silver lining. I'm pist our D is injury riddled but hope they can pull it together before long. It's not all doom and gloom after 3 weeks. Rgiii over 700 yards passing and 200 rushing, anyone predict that?

[chiefhog44]

Rgiii over 700 yards passing and 200 rushing, anyone predict that?

Yes, the poster. He knows everything

[emoses14]

Robert Griffin, III is worth every dollar and pick we gave up to get him. Injuries suck.

[Krisk86]

I can't believe that I'm seeing the Redskins finally putting up 30 points a game!!!! And yet we are 1-2!! Something has to be done about this secondary. Personally I have to put these issues on Jim Haslett's coaching. The corners are no where near the WR's ever, the line is not getting any pressure and his constant blitzing on 3rd and long is way past getting old. The talent is there. Fletcher, Cofield, Kerrigan, Jackson (Beast today), and D. Hall. I know Hall has his bonehead moments, he is a Hokie after all, but the man is a pro bowl MVP. If our D was half as good as the Giants this team could be unbeatable with RG III and Morris putting up the numbers and points they are.

[Smithian]

Robert Griffin is as awesome as Jim Haslett is bad.

Props to the Shanahans for switching up the offense for him. Big thing right now is improving the O-Line so more conventional runs and drop backs can be used.

Haslett? Dude.... It's year 3.

[DarthMonk]

i am still shaking my head at punting on 4th and 1. all momentum.

Me too.

Someone explain to me why we are kicking onsides with more than 3:30 still on the clock?

Because our defense is horrendous. We had a better chance to recover that onside than we did of stopping them. And, that's sad.

Um, we did stop them. They punted. Our ball at the 2 rather than the 42.

I'm with the Deadman here. We had to stop them either way. Might as well do it at their end instead of mid-field.

Here's another bummer. We burn 2nd-half timeouts to save 5 yards.

[the poster]

where's this great depth I heard so much about in august? wouldn't you all love to go back to august, by the way? where you could talk so glowingly of your team. without the spector of a scary real game or two to buzzkill your inccurate pie in the sky assessment of your team. hahaha.

I remember one rambunctious little fella pointing to the kevin barnes trade (who by the way has already been cut by the lions..lol) of it being a sign that the redskins depth is better.

tjey've had a few injuries. wah. somebody call the wahbulance. this football....guess what? every team in the league has had some injuries. so no one is going to feel sorry for them. and the redskins are gonna have some injuries next year too. and the year following. so how have they fared?

a health club owner is your backup OT? aldrick Robinson has done nothing. Jarvis jenkins, nothing. Brandon merriweather (who he himself has been cut from his last two teams) is missed only because their safety play is horrendous.

but..........your team did cover themselves up in typical Snyder fashion with some rg3 duck tape...that's all it took for him to start the marketing wheel again on those gullible fans who fall every single time for the same tricks. you've been sold more hope and you bought back in again. Snyder will give you a guy here , a 100 million dollar contract there or a new coach here, but he can't give u a full foo all team. he doesn't know how.

without a first round pick in the forseeable future, no cap space next year, and already in last place (quicker than even I thought), and a terrible roster, this franchise continues to be one of the worst in the sport. and yet , the owner is still smart enough to fool a lot of his customers.........just not this ex customer.

you should listen to me more.......I provided nothing but truth. doubt me? scoreboard, son. scoreboard.

[Red_One43]

I can't believe that I'm seeing the Redskins finally putting up 30 points a game!!!! And yet we are 1-2!! Something has to be done about this secondary. Personally I have to put these issues on Jim Haslett's coaching. The corners are no where near the WR's ever, the line is not getting any pressure and his constant blitzing on 3rd and long is way past getting old. The talent is there. Fletcher, Cofield, Kerrigan, Jackson (Beast today), and D. Hall. I know Hall has his bonehead moments, he is a Hokie after all, but the man is a pro bowl MVP. If our D was half as good as the Giants this team could be unbeatable with RG III and Morris putting up the numbers and points they are.

Don't forget we are leading in the turnover battle, too. Don't know the score, but I know we lead it and we are still 1-2 and scoring 30 points a game!

[Red_One43]

i am still shaking my head at punting on 4th and 1. all momentum.

Me too.

Someone explain to me why we are kicking onsides with more than 3:30 still on the clock?

Because our defense is horrendous. We had a better chance to recover that onside than we did of stopping them. And, that's sad.

Um, we did stop them. They punted. Our ball at the 2 rather than the 42.

I'm with the Deadman here. We had to stop them either way. Might as well do it at their end instead of mid-field.

Here's another bummer. We burn 2nd-half timeouts to save 5 yards.

Shanny seems to be playing it conservative with his O at times this season. Also, why wait until half time to unveil the Griffin, Banks, Morris backfield? The TO thing has plagued Shanny since his first season here. I don't get that either.

[tribeofjudah]

where's this great depth I heard so much about in august? wouldn't you all love to go back to august, by the way? where you could talk so glowingly of your team. without the spector of a scary real game or two to buzzkill your inccurate pie in the sky assessment of your team. hahaha.

I remember one rambunctious little fella pointing to the kevin barnes trade (who by the way has already been cut by the lions..lol) of it being a sign that the redskins depth is better.

tjey've had a few injuries. wah. somebody call the wahbulance. this football....guess what? every team in the league has had some injuries. so no one is going to feel sorry for them. and the redskins are gonna have some injuries next year too. and the year following. so how have they fared?

a health club owner is your backup OT? aldrick Robinson has done nothing. Jarvis jenkins, nothing. Brandon merriweather (who he himself has been cut from his last two teams) is missed only because their safety play is horrendous.

but..........your team did cover themselves up in typical Snyder fashion with some rg3 duck tape...that's all it took for him to start the marketing wheel again on those gullible fans who fall every single time for the same tricks. you've been sold more hope and you bought back in again. Snyder will give you a guy here , a 100 million dollar contract there or a new coach here, but he can't give u a full foo all team. he doesn't know how.

without a first round pick in the forseeable future, no cap space next year, and already in last place (quicker than even I thought), and a terrible roster, this franchise continues to be one of the worst in the sport. and yet , the owner is still smart enough to fool a lot of his customers.........just not this ex customer.

you should listen to me more.......I provided nothing but truth. doubt me? scoreboard, son. scoreboard.

trust me when I say: I don't read your comments........

[HOGETTE MX]

where's this great depth I heard so much about in august? wouldn't you all love to go back to august, by the way? where you could talk so glowingly of your team. without the spector of a scary real game or two to buzzkill your inccurate pie in the sky assessment of your team. hahaha.

I remember one rambunctious little fella pointing to the kevin barnes trade (who by the way has already been cut by the lions..lol) of it being a sign that the redskins depth is better.

tjey've had a few injuries. wah. somebody call the wahbulance. this football....guess what? every team in the league has had some injuries. so no one is going to feel sorry for them. and the redskins are gonna have some injuries next year too. and the year following. so how have they fared?

a health club owner is your backup OT? aldrick Robinson has done nothing. Jarvis jenkins, nothing. Brandon merriweather (who he himself has been cut from his last two teams) is missed only because their safety play is horrendous.

but..........your team did cover themselves up in typical Snyder fashion with some rg3 duck tape...that's all it took for him to start the marketing wheel again on those gullible fans who fall every single time for the same tricks. you've been sold more hope and you bought back in again. Snyder will give you a guy here , a 100 million dollar contract there or a new coach here, but he can't give u a full foo all team. he doesn't know how.

without a first round pick in the forseeable future, no cap space next year, and already in last place (quicker than even I thought), and a terrible roster, this franchise continues to be one of the worst in the sport. and yet , the owner is still smart enough to fool a lot of his customers.........just not this ex customer.

you should listen to me more.......I provided nothing but truth. doubt me? scoreboard, son. scoreboard.

I've always said that the road to redemption for this franchise is when Snyder croaks or sells the team to another owner. I remember the time when Jack Kent Cooke owned this team and had Charley Casserly as a smart GM. Back when the Redskins were a force to be reckoned with. Ever since jughead Snyder bought this team, it's been a disaster! We had a great 4-3 defense when Gregg Williams was with the team not too long ago. He's gone now and we're stuck with Haslett, giving him a contract extension as well.

Now, some people would call you a troll and even a pessemist. I'll say this with regards to your comments and this franchise... THE MORE THINGS CHANGE, THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME. I guess you can say the truth always hurts.

[CanesSkins26]

#3 - His Son, Kyle has been worse .... with questionable play calling and a totally inept offense for the first two seasons ... this year, he seems ready to use his world class QB like a pack mule, and grind him right into the ground. And RG3 is the ONLY REASON this putrid offense has been successful. At the current rate, RG3 won't even be on the field by game 10, if this idiot continues to use him as a battering ram. This beating the kid is taking takes me back to when Patrick Ramsey was close to being a murder victim because of the "Old Ball Coach", Spurrier. And after Josh Morgan's bone headed personal foul at the end of last week's game, Kyle Shanahan does the same thing this week, as he draws a 20 yard penalty for going into a profanity laced tirade at an official. He will also likely to be sanctioned by the league this week, since the NFL sent out a letter to all teams this past week warning that such behavior toward the replacement refs will not be tolerated and be dealt with harshly. How do you convince your players to maintain composure, when the coach can't?

They have to SIGNIFICANTLY reduce the number of read option plays being run or Griffin won't even make it to week 10. The hardest hit he took today wasn't even on play in which he ran the ball, but after he pitched it on an option play.

[FanofallthatisGibbs]

The replacement refs are not protecting players like the regular refs were. Usually I would be all for that as I am more of an old-school football fan. However, these past two weeks have shown my clearly why these rules are in effect and why the laundry comes out almost all too easily.

Teams watching the Skins play are seeing that you attack and cut off the head of the snake and you have a chance. I mean, it feels like teams are truly gunning for RGIII, and I can't blame them. But the refs are not exactly protecting him the way the regular refs would, and that means sooner or later something tragic will happen. I don't want to see that day.

In other news, WORST REDSKINS DEFENSE EVER!! And this with a solid front 7 with depth tells you how bad the secondary is. Just abominable. The worst is the angles they are taking. Have they played football before???

[UK Skins Fan]

Cheer up everybody. It's the morning after the day before, and I can honestly say: things may well get worse.....

At the end of the season, we may well look back at the first three weeks and say "well, at least our team made it close at the end of those games". Because, this team will NOT continue to score 30 points every week. If the defence continues to suck at this historic rate, we may well be looking at some major blow outs in the second half of the season.

Meanwhile, somewhere in his cave, Daniel Snyder is sharpening his knives.........

[everydayAskinsday]

on a different note.. I think it is time to give Royster the start and let Morris watch and learn .. While Morris is a great hard runner and has played well he has also caused miscues in all 3 games now.. he has nearly cost us a fumble every game and is responsible for on average 2 miscues with RG3 each game which are killing drives

[1niksder]

#3 - His Son, Kyle has been worse .... with questionable play calling and a totally inept offense for the first two seasons ... this year, he seems ready to use his world class QB like a pack mule, and grind him right into the ground. And RG3 is the ONLY REASON this putrid offense has been successful. At the current rate, RG3 won't even be on the field by game 10, if this idiot continues to use him as a battering ram. This beating the kid is taking takes me back to when Patrick Ramsey was close to being a murder victim because of the "Old Ball Coach", Spurrier. And after Josh Morgan's bone headed personal foul at the end of last week's game, Kyle Shanahan does the same thing this week, as he draws a 20 yard penalty for going into a profanity laced tirade at an official. He will also likely to be sanctioned by the league this week, since the NFL sent out a letter to all teams this past week warning that such behavior toward the replacement refs will not be tolerated and be dealt with harshly. How do you convince your players to maintain composure, when the coach can't?

They have to SIGNIFICANTLY reduce the number of read option plays being run or Griffin won't even make it to week 10. The hardest hit he took today wasn't even on play in which he ran the ball, but after he pitched it on an option play.

+1

[SouthLondonRedskin]

Cheer up everybody. It's the morning after the day before, and I can honestly say: things may well get worse.....

At the end of the season, we may well look back at the first three weeks and say "well, at least our team made it close at the end of those games". Because, this team will NOT continue to score 30 points every week. If the defence continues to suck at this historic rate, we may well be looking at some major blow outs in the second half of the season.

Meanwhile, somewhere in his cave, Daniel Snyder is sharpening his knives.........

No, no, no, no,, no!!!!

Come on man, we all had a clue the secondary would struggle this year, didn't we...???

I don't think anybody thought the arrival of Cedric and Maddy would be the long term answer, mainly cos they're not very good.

This is a patchwork year for the secondary. I felt confident they'd do OK but that was with Jackson and Meriweather starting. Since then Meriweather's been out injured and Jackson just tottally messed his life up...

So let's just see if Raheem can earn his corn. I think tactics and players may well have to change back there, be good to see more of Crawford, may as well blood him in this year.

I think Wilson is a very good player. If Crawford can get a game on the other side, Meriweather can return from injury, DeAngelo in the slot and Gomes to step up, it's an improved secondary straight away.

Next season we'll splash out on a top FA safety or CB, and draft more of the same I'm sure, with a lineman or two and Shanny's regulatory RB pick.

As for this year, well I think we're going to be agonisingly inconsistent, don't be surprised next week if the D holds up but the offense stumbles. That's often the way with young, developing teams.

I'm still saying 9-7, remember we do tend to lift our game against the better teams, our only win this season again proves that.

[skinsfan#33]

What's sad is that for two weeks in a row, Shanny has elected to put the game in the hands of the special teams on a play that has .00001% chance of succeeding.

Exaggerate much!

The onside kick DID work, the refs just called it wrong. The first player to touch the ball was a Shins player at the 45 yard line. 45 - 35 = 10. The ball has to go ten yards before the living team can touch it and it did!

If Shanny hadn't challenged that punt that clearly wasn't a touchback he would have had a time out to challenge the onside kick. Of course if he had a time out he probably wouldn't have kicked the onside kick. I was sitting 15 rows up in section 402 and I could tell it on the line. Then they replayed the play on the big screen an froze the ball as it was sitting on thr goal line.

[skinsfan#33]

What's sad is that for two weeks in a row, Shanny has elected to put the game in the hands of the special teams on a play that has .00001% chance of succeeding.

Exaggerate much!

The onside kick DID work, the refs just called it wrong. The first player to touch the ball was a Shins player at the 45 yard line. 45 - 35 = 10. The ball has to go ten yards before the living team can touch it and it did!

If Shanny hadn't challenged that punt that clearly wasn't a touchback he would have had a time out to challenge the onside kick. Of course if he had a time out he probably wouldn't have kicked the onside kick. I was sitting 15 rows up in section 402 and I could tell it on the line. Then they replayed the play on the big screen an froze the ball as it was sitting on thr goal line.

[crazyhorse1]

Cheer up everybody. It's the morning after the day before, and I can honestly say: things may well get worse.....

At the end of the season, we may well look back at the first three weeks and say "well, at least our team made it close at the end of those games". Because, this team will NOT continue to score 30 points every week. If the defence continues to suck at this historic rate, we may well be looking at some major blow outs in the second half of the season.

Meanwhile, somewhere in his cave, Daniel Snyder is sharpening his knives.........

No, no, no, no,, no!!!!

No way our defense will hold up and no way we'll go 9-7. You're dreaming. I liked Crawford until the first play of the Bengal's game. I think it was Crawford who allowed the receiver to just run by him, basically uncontested. If that wasn't Crawford, let me know.
Come on man, we all had a clue the secondary would struggle this year, didn't we...???

I don't think anybody thought the arrival of Cedric and Maddy would be the long term answer, mainly cos they're not very good.

This is a patchwork year for the secondary. I felt confident they'd do OK but that was with Jackson and Meriweather starting. Since then Meriweather's been out injured and Jackson just tottally messed his life up...

So let's just see if Raheem can earn his corn. I think tactics and players may well have to change back there, be good to see more of Crawford, may as well blood him in this year.

I think Wilson is a very good player. If Crawford can get a game on the other side, Meriweather can return from injury, DeAngelo in the slot and Gomes to step up, it's an improved secondary straight away.

Next season we'll splash out on a top FA safety or CB, and draft more of the same I'm sure, with a lineman or two and Shanny's regulatory RB pick.

As for this year, well I think we're going to be agonisingly inconsistent, don't be surprised next week if the D holds up but the offense stumbles. That's often the way with young, developing teams.

I'm still saying 9-7, remember we do tend to lift our game against the better teams, our only win this season again proves that.