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Bailey Likes the View From Mile High
Former Redskin Says He's Happy To Be a Bronco
By Mark Maske
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, July 29, 2004; Page D03

ENGLEWOOD, Colo., July 28 -- The break is complete now, both physically and emotionally. Champ Bailey has moved his family out here and is about to sell his house in Northern Virginia. And when his new team, the Denver Broncos, took the field on this cool, cloudy Wednesday morning for the opening practice of training camp, all eyes were on Bailey, the anointed difference-maker for a club trying to recapture its Super Bowl glory of the late 1990s after going five seasons without a playoff win.

Fans called his name. They cheered loudly when the cornerback made a lightning-quick break to knock away a pass headed for wide receiver Ashley Lelie during a drill. Some things were the same for Bailey as he prepares for his sixth NFL season -- from his fast, fluid movements on the field to his mannerisms, as when he propped his helmet atop his head during breaks. But much is different as Bailey adjusts to life after the trade that sent him from the Washington Redskins to Denver for tailback Clinton Portis in a rare NFL swap of Pro Bowl players.

"It was strange the first day," Bailey said between practices. "But I looked on the side of me and I've got John Lynch [the five-time Pro Bowl safety signed by the Broncos after 11 seasons with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers] beside me. It really feels strange for him, so I feel pretty good. . . . It feels so good to just come in here with a lot of good players around you, and you know it's a good system and a good organization. The track record is good. What more can you ask for out of a team?"

The Redskins were far from a model organization during his five seasons with them, shuffling players and coaches and regularly turning enormous expectations created by bold offseason moves into disappointing results. But as Bailey stood outside the Broncos' locker room and reflected on his Redskins tenure, he said he isn't bitter. If the Redskins had offered him the sort of contract he wanted, he said, he would have stayed. He remained willing to re-sign until the moment in mid-February they granted him permission to seek a trade, he said.

"There were good times," Bailey said. "I try to look at the positive parts of it. We had some great teams -- no, let me rephrase that -- we had some great players, but as a team we just couldn't get it done. That's disappointing looking back, but I'm not going to dwell on it. . . . I never wanted to be anywhere else until they gave me the right to get a trade. You have mixed emotions. You go back and forth. But I was willing to come back, just not with the money they were offering."

Even so, Bailey says he thinks the Broncos got the better of the trade, and says he thinks he will be the best cornerback in the league this season. "I've felt like the last two or three years, I was among the best," he said. "Hopefully this year I can take off from the rest."

The Broncos spent years searching for a cornerback who could blanket the sport's top receivers. "He's dominated his position for the last few years, and I expect him to continue that," said Denver's veteran wide receiver, Rod Smith. "Just like with me, nothing short of a Super Bowl is going to be good enough for him."

Said Broncos Coach Mike Shanahan: "The guy is a natural leader, a natural worker, even better than I thought he was. That's putting a lot of pressure on him. But I've been thoroughly impressed with the way he's handled himself, the way he's worked."

The Redskins-Bailey split, in retrospect, was ensured when Bailey and agent Jack Reale rejected a nine-year, $55-million contract proposal by the club last August that included $14.75 million in bonus money split between a signing bonus and an option bonus. Bailey and Reale thought they could do better, and Redskins officials were upset that Reale never made a counterproposal. They became increasingly convinced that being with the Redskins meant nothing to Bailey and that he just wanted to sell his services to the highest bidder.

Joe Gibbs called him after becoming the Redskins' coach in January, Bailey said, and the two planned to meet. But that meeting was canceled, he said, when the Redskins gave him permission to seek a trade. The Redskins only slightly increased their offer after the season -- "pretty much the same thing, just a little higher," he said -- and used their franchise-player tag to keep him off the free-agent market long enough to send him and a second-round draft choice to the Broncos for Portis, a two-time 1,500-yard rusher. Bailey signed a seven-year, $63 million deal with Denver that included an $18 million signing bonus.

"They said I was a fool for not taking it [the Redskins' offer], but I knew what I was doing," Bailey said. "I knew what I was capable of getting and what I was worth, so why would I take something below market value? That would make it worse for all the other corners around the league, so I've got to get what I'm worth."

The ceaseless change at Redskins Park wore on Bailey, 26, and he pointed out Wednesday that, while Redskins owner Daniel Snyder gave the approval to Bailey's first NFL contract shortly after purchasing the team, it was former Redskins general manager Charley Casserly (now the Houston Texans' GM) who drafted him.

"I can't be surprised," Bailey said of the Redskins' decision to let him go. "These guys didn't draft me. The guys who drafted me are in Houston. I never felt like I was one of theirs. They talked to you nicely, but who doesn't? . . . I think [Snyder] wants to win. He definitely has that drive to win. The problem is, he just needs to surround himself with people who have been successful. Will he let [Gibbs] do what he does? That's the key. . . .

"If [Gibbs] has the control that he wants, his direction -- then, well, he's always been successful. . . . You see guys floating in and out of the door every year. You let Brad Johnson go. You let Stephen Davis get away. These guys go on to win Super Bowls and lead their teams to Super Bowls. Those players could have done that in our system. But when you have new coaches come in every year, it's kind of hard to jell as a unit. We never did."

He acknowledges that he still is not fully healthy after shoulder and wrist injuries last season, but says he's close. The trade and his new contract have put him under intense scrutiny, but he said he doesn't feel any more pressure than usual. He says the Broncos came out ahead in the trade, in part because they used the second-round pick on tailback Tatum Bell and Shanahan always has been able to plug a new runner into his offense and remain successful.

"You're not going to find many backs like Clinton Portis," Bailey said. "If I would have gone anywhere else and they'd have told me they were trading a back like that for me, I wouldn't have done it. No way. If I was going to San Diego and they'd said they were trading LaDainian Tomlinson for me, I wouldn't have gone. But you look at the track record here, and they've always produced great backs. Not to take anything away from Clinton, but that's just the way it's been."


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Thanks Jake. I appreciate the update and wish him well. I too think that Denver got the better end of the trade (2nd round pick???). Let's hope Portis is all he's cracked up to be.
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Champ Bailey wrote: I think [Snyder] wants to win. He definitely has that drive to win. The problem is, he just needs to surround himself with people who have been successful. Will he let [Gibbs] do what he does? That's the key. . .


:?: sounds like what we all have been saying
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I disagree that Denver got the better deal just because of the 2nd round pick. Despite what Champ says I have serious doubts that he was serious about staying in DC. He'd had enough and also saw the choices we were facing (i.e Lavar). The Skin's made the best of the situation, got a top rusher which they desparately needed. As to who got the better deal...lets see in January. :lol:
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Champsturf wrote:Thanks Jake. I appreciate the update and wish him well. I too think that Denver got the better end of the trade (2nd round pick???). Let's hope Portis is all he's cracked up to be.


All we can do is hope, but that't all Denver can do about Baily, because you never know what will happen.

If Portis gets 1500 rushing yards & 800 to 1000 receiving, do you still think Denver got the "better end"???? Only time will tell, but this will be Portis' turf now, LOL!
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Joe Gibbs called him after becoming the Redskins' coach in January, Bailey said, and the two planned to meet. But that meeting was canceled, he said, when the Redskins gave him permission to seek a trade. The Redskins only slightly increased their offer after the season -- "pretty much the same thing, just a little higher," he said -- and used their franchise-player tag to keep him off the free-agent market long enough to send him and a second-round draft choice to the Broncos for Portis, a two-time 1,500-yard rusher. Bailey signed a seven-year, $63 million deal with Denver that included an $18 million signing bonus.

"They said I was a fool for not taking it [the Redskins' offer], but I knew what I was doing," Bailey said. "I knew what I was capable of getting and what I was worth, so why would I take something below market value? That would make it worse for all the other corners around the league, so I've got to get what I'm worth."


Yeah Champ, but the more you get, the less there is for the rest of the team. The 'Skins' offer was more than fair. It would have made you the highest paid CB in NFL history. But no, you had to be selfish and force your chosen team to mortgage their future so that you can get yours.
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Joe Gibbs called him after becoming the Redskins' coach in January, Bailey said, and the two planned to meet. But that meeting was canceled, he said, when the Redskins gave him permission to seek a trade. The Redskins only slightly increased their offer after the season -- "pretty much the same thing, just a little higher," he said -- and used their franchise-player tag to keep him off the free-agent market long enough to send him and a second-round draft choice to the Broncos for Portis, a two-time 1,500-yard rusher. Bailey signed a seven-year, $63 million deal with Denver that included an $18 million signing bonus.

"They said I was a fool for not taking it [the Redskins' offer], but I knew what I was doing," Bailey said. "I knew what I was capable of getting and what I was worth, so why would I take something below market value? That would make it worse for all the other corners around the league, so I've got to get what I'm worth."


Yeah Champ, but the more you get, the less there is for the rest of the team. The 'Skins' offer was more than fair. It would have made you the highest paid CB in NFL history. But no, you had to be selfish and force your chosen team to mortgage their future so that you can get yours.


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Champsturf wrote:Thanks Jake. I appreciate the update and wish him well. I too think that Denver got the better end of the trade (2nd round pick???). Let's hope Portis is all he's cracked up to be.


Trust me, Portis is da bomb. My fave AFC squad, the KC Chiefs, had a major can of whoop-a** laid on em by Mr. Portis twice. Thankfully, the Chiefs and Broncs split their matchups last year.

Portis's COD (change of direction) is off the hizzie. He can stop on a dime, pick up the dime, leave ten pennies on the ground, and scoot before the LBs and DBs knew what hit em.

At worst, IMO, this trade is a push.

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I don't care what Champ says about him wanting to stay here. If he wanted to stay here he should have at least dived at that Eagles fullback instead of escorting him into the end zone. And above all when him and Coach Gibbs talked he shouldn't have told his new Coach that he wasn't going to show up for any minicamps. Soon after that Gibbs had him out of here!!!

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Yeah Champ, but the more you get, the less there is for the rest of the team. The 'Skins' offer was more than fair. It would have made you the highest paid CB in NFL history. But no, you had to be selfish and force your chosen team to mortgage their future so that you can get yours.


I usually will always stick up for Champ and argue his case. But I can't disagree with your comment there... He was being selfish, but we had something to do with it too maybe to a smaller extent.
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I'm sorry, but how many millions does one person need to be happy? At some point it all becomes about ego, and that is not a team value.
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JSPB22 wrote:I'm sorry, but how many millions does one person need to be happy? At some point it all becomes about ego, and that is not a team value.


Definitely - and his ego doesn't make up for the fact that he was eating dirt face first in the turf while the other team's (giants and tampa game for starters) receivers were dancing into the endzone last season.


I liked Champ a lot before last season but between his contract dispute and his play last year, he went down a notch. That said, both teams are better after making the trade.
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Trust me, Portis is da bomb. My fave AFC squad, the KC Chiefs, had a major can of whoop-a** laid on em by Mr. Portis twice. Thankfully, the Chiefs and Broncs split their matchups last year.

Portis's COD (change of direction) is off the hizzie. He can stop on a dime, pick up the dime, leave ten pennies on the ground, and scoot before the LBs and DBs knew what hit em.

At worst, IMO, this trade is a push

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Champ already showing the broncos how great he is(from cbs sportsline) :roll: :

Day one: Watts burns Bailey

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News: According to the Rocky Mountain News, rookie wide receiver Darius Watts made a big play over Champ Bailey on the first day of training camp. The pro bowl corner was impressed. "He's a dangerous rookie," Bailey said. "A lot of people are going to really sleep on him, and he's going to surprise some people.
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surferskin wrote:Champ already showing the broncos how great he is(from cbs sportsline) :roll: :

Day one: Watts burns Bailey

Darius Watts, WR DEN

News: According to the Rocky Mountain News, rookie wide receiver Darius Watts made a big play over Champ Bailey on the first day of training camp. The pro bowl corner was impressed. "He's a dangerous rookie," Bailey said. "A lot of people are going to really sleep on him, and he's going to surprise some people.


Just like Champ, sleeping on another play! I think Deion being here hurt him more then it helped him. He was playing like Deion did when he was here, all the talent in the world & you get burned by a rookie!
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I hope Denver looses every game this year so I can ask him how the view is then?

Maybe the view he is looking at is the Denver Savings and Loan thats holding his accounts.
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JSPB22 wrote:I'm sorry, but how many millions does one person need to be happy? At some point it all becomes about ego, and that is not a team value.


This is a agrument I always have a problem with. Look at it this way. Your making 30 grand and your boss offers you 60 to saty but another company offers you 90 to go with them. On top of that you organization has been run prooly, your one of the top 5 in your field and the boss is bringing in has beens and paying them more. I just don't buy the selfish rap, unlike Portis...Champ played out his contract and never openly complained until his last year. this is a business, this was Champ's payday, he did it the right way.
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