Slaton to Skins...???

[tribeofjudah]

What the Heck....who's running this show...???

Report: Redskins working on trade for Slaton

The Redskins are working on a trade that would send WR Anthony Armstrong to the Dolphins for RB Steve Slaton.
Talks are "ongoing." There are plenty of connections here as Slaton played for current Redskins OC Kyle Shanahan in Houston and Armstrong spent 2008 on the Dolphins' practice squad. Slaton is currently fourth on the running back depth chart in Miami and hasn't earned significant playing time since 2009, but would at least threaten for a role in Washington. The Shanahans aren't afraid to give anyone carries and Slaton fits best in the zone-blocking scheme.

[Red_One43]

^So far it is not making progress. Rich Campbell tweeted that Skins have preapred Armstrong for release, but are still trying to trade him - didn't say whether or not the Dolphins are still involved.

[tribeofjudah]

This father/son duo........is something else

[ICEMAN]

This father/son duo........is something else

Agreed!

[ATX_Skins]

Slaton? Cmon.... I know he was a Texan but man, this is a huge reach. The guy has been unproductive for yea... his entire career.

[riggofan]

I like that we're complaining about a trade that didn't happen.

[1niksder]

I like that we're complaining about a trade that didn't happen.

In the in it didn't happen but... why?

It took the Redskins too long and someone told the new guys in Miami that these aren't the old guys that were in Washington.

The Redskins were trying to trade a guy that they were going to cut (because he doesn't add any depth to the roster), for a guy that was going to and did make the Dolphins final 53.

Say what you want about SJ's boys but they had teams interested in players that can't make this roster. It has happened every year since they got here from Justin Tyron to that linebacker that they traded as a fullback that made it as a LB on a third roster (I forget his name but how hard would that guy be to find on Google... somebody here (cus we got the best members on the web ) will remember his name, and don't forget although Tim Hightower is gone he only cost a 35 year old vet D-lineman (who wouldn't have made the roster last year and wouldn't have been invited to camp this year.

I believe by this trade not happening will result in Hightower's return. I remember back in the day when the Redskins would trade something for nothing. Now they take notjhing and try to get something out of it.


I'm not saying AAA is nothing (and all three other guys mentioned though they would have been cut if not traded ALL made NFL rosters (if you include the PS) the year they were traded, I think Armstrong will actually start at the least a few games in South Beach.

[the poster]

The Redskins were trying to trade a guy that they were going to cut (because he doesn't add any depth to the roster), for a guy that was going to and did make the Dolphins final 53.

slaton was cut prior to your post. don't worry, im not surprised.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... slaton-cut

(I forget his name but how hard would that guy be to find on Google... somebody here (cus we got the best members on the web ) will remember his name, and don't forget although Tim Hightower is gone he only cost a 35 year old vet D-lineman (who wouldn't have made the roster last year and wouldn't have been invited to camp this year.

wrong again. hightower cost them a 6th rounder plus that vet dlineman.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/68218 ... ay-12-pick

I remember back in the day when the Redskins would trade something for nothing. Now they take notjhing and try to get something out of it.

they made ONE trade (k. barnes for a conditional 7th round pick). ***ONE*** trade and all of a sudden they're the greatest.

while you're at it, why don't you give me your grade on THIS REGIME's trades FOR Donovan McNabb and Jamaal Brown??

That's what I thought.

[1niksder]

The Redskins were trying to trade a guy that they were going to cut (because he doesn't add any depth to the roster), for a guy that was going to and did make the Dolphins final 53.

slaton was cut prior to your post. don't worry, im not surprised.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... slaton-cut

And your post surpises no one

Hater's gonna hate, and you prove it in your post. That FACT is he was on the Dolphins roster at the time of the trade discussions and when the cut deadline passed he was STILL on their roster. As I said before you TRIED to minimize it. They tried to get a guy that was going to make the Dolphins roster (and did) for a guy that wasn't going to make the Redskins roster (and didn't).

(I forget his name but how hard would that guy be to find on Google... somebody here (cus we got the best members on the web ) will remember his name, and don't forget although Tim Hightower is gone he only cost a 35 year old vet D-lineman (who wouldn't have made the roster last year and wouldn't have been invited to camp this year.

wrong again. hightower cost them a 6th rounder plus that vet dlineman.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/68218 ... ay-12-pick

The topic was about a player that wasn't going to make the roster being traded for a player on another roster, which drifted to recent trades compared to past trades. But yeah they gave up a 6th round pick in the deal. Had they gotten a sixth rounder and I mentioned it you would have just blown it off as a late round pick. Which is way the pick for Tyron wasn't mentioned just the fact that he was traded after it was decided that (like every other player mentioned) he wasn't going to make the roster...

But since you mentioned it, what did it really cost them? You don't like any of the players they select anyway. They gave up a pick yet made two selections that you didn't like in that round anyway.

I remember back in the day when the Redskins would trade something for nothing. Now they take notjhing and try to get something out of it.

they made ONE trade (k. barnes for a conditional 7th round pick). ***ONE*** trade and all of a sudden they're the greatest.

while you're at it, why don't you give me your grade on THIS REGIME's trades FOR Donovan McNabb and Jamaal Brown??

That's what I thought.

See how you pick and choose... That's what makes your post so laughable, or you should learn how to debate a topic before you start beating your chest about no one wanting to debate you.

Stick to the topic, aren't you the one that knows it all and know one wants to debate you. Maybe they know you can't focus on the topic at hand. Maybe you don't understand the topic.

Let's see how's been mentioned in this thread, and see what they have in common..

CB Justin Tryon was traded to the Indianapolis Colts on cut down day.
FB Dennis Morris (the guy I couldn't remember) was traded to St. Louis Rams on cut down day.
RB Tim Hightower acquired in a trade with Arizona for DL Vonnie Holliday although it wasn't doing cut downs it was noted that he won't make the roster or be invited to camp.

That fact that a draft pick was included doesn't change the discussion to draft picks...

You mentioned the Barnes trade so you might not be as slow as I thought, you just don't really have a reply so you brought up o;d news. Topics that have been beating to death on this and just about every other Skins site form the time they were announced. If that's the best you got you can put me the group that won't debate you because I don't like wasting my time. (I'm sure it's much longer than the one that holds the name of those that fear you supposed knowledge)


If you want to discuss the attempt to get a player that the thought they could use in exchange for a player they knew they couldn't... have at it, but try to keep it real. I know it's hard to find fault in everything, pointing out paste issue only hold water when the circumstance are the same.

Hightower was a player for player trade like the attempted trade for Slanton. All the other trades mentioned were related to teams getting their roster down.

How does McNabb or Brown fit into this? How does former Pro Bowlers being traded for conditional picks fit in with teams trying to swap players that aren't in their plans?

Don't hurt yourself trying to come up with a answer... It was a rhetorical question and we aready know the answer.


For those that don't know the answer, here ya go...

McNabb and Brown fit in this debate the same way it fits in all debates that pos er and those like him make them fit. Granted that doesn't sound like a reason but like bringing up McNabb and Brown... it's ALL HE'S GOT!

Of course this will lead to how "the Danny" and his lap dog is what made him this way and only a act of God (that's what he'll tribute any post season victories to), will vhange it.

FTR: Only my friends from the north (RiC & BH), and a few others on this site can hold a candle to my feeling toward "the Danny" and the lap dog... but as the pos er has proven and will continue to prove in his post... he's a hater and just a bit slow.

See what happens when you don't have one of those Scolly thingies DFTT

[tribeofjudah]

Lovely, his new name is POS ER....very appropriate.....

[Countertrey]

Debating with a troll... < investing in buggy whips. DFTT

[1niksder]

I'm debating the reason the troll says no one will debate it. I'm not calling it a liar but it is what it is. It needs to know the truth about it's self.

And the games don't start until next week anyway.

[Red_One43]

I like that we're complaining about a trade that didn't happen.

In the in it didn't happen but... why?

It took the Redskins too long and someone told the new guys in Miami that these aren't the old guys that were in Washington.

The Redskins were trying to trade a guy that they were going to cut (because he doesn't add any depth to the roster), for a guy that was going to and did make the Dolphins final 53.

Say what you want about SJ's boys but they had teams interested in players that can't make this roster. It has happened every year since they got here from Justin Tyron to that linebacker that they traded as a fullback that made it as a LB on a third roster (I forget his name but how hard would that guy be to find on Google... somebody here (cus we got the best members on the web ) will remember his name, and don't forget although Tim Hightower is gone he only cost a 35 year old vet D-lineman (who wouldn't have made the roster last year and wouldn't have been invited to camp this year.

I believe by this trade not happening will result in Hightower's return. I remember back in the day when the Redskins would trade something for nothing. Now they take notjhing and try to get something out of it.


I'm not saying AAA is nothing (and all three other guys mentioned though they would have been cut if not traded ALL made NFL rosters (if you include the PS) the year they were traded, I think Armstrong will actually start at the least a few games in South Beach.

Cody Glenn is the LB that the Skins drafted that the Colts took from our PS. He switched from running back to LB his senior year at Nebraska.

Cody Glenn (born October 6, 1986) is an American football linebacker in the National Football League (NFL), who is currently an unrestricted free agent. He was drafted by the Washington Redskins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cody_Glenn

[the poster]

Hater's gonna hate,

haters gonna hate? really? whAt are you, like 17 years old or something? I hope you are, anything else and that's just embarrassing.

prove it in your post. That FACT is he was on the Dolphins roster at the time of the trade discussions and when the cut deadline passed he was STILL on their roster. As I said before you TRIED to minimize it. They tried to get a guy that was going to make the Dolphins roster (and did) for a guy that wasn't going to make the Redskins roster (and didn't).

look at you. just look at that paragraph. look at that long, winding, conniving, spiral of confusion.

let me do something that you can't do...or are afraid to do......type concisely (probably cuz I'm not trying to hide something)

1. you originally said slaton was on fins final dolphin roster.
2. now you're essentially saying "yeah I knew that hewas cut but my point was at the time of the trade talk he was still there and cut later". which is absolutely misleading (and I think a lie, I don't think you knew he was cut at all at the time of your original post or you would have somewhere, anywhere at leadt would have at least mentioned it, even in passing.

you can admit it now, you got caught by the poster, someone who knows his football.

The topic was about a player that wasn't going to make the roster being traded for a player on another roster, which drifted to recent trades compared to past trades. But yeah they gave up a 6th round pick in the deal.

great. the last part is all that I wanted you to acknowledge and the rest of your rambling, backtracking answer can be deleted. so now you know that the details of your original content regarding that trade was incorrect and it did also include a draft pick. moving on....

See how you pick and choose...

doing the exact same thing you're doing...only with class!

That fact that a draft pick was included doesn't change the discussion to draft picks...

look.....you're the one, not me, that said "I remember the day when the redskins would trade something and get nothing and now the reverse is happening.....

and if you want to debate me on what shanhan has dealt by way of draft pick value for GARBAGE vs. a couple of conditional late rounders he got for players he shipped out, you're going to get destroyed in that argument.

you wanna tell me his 2nd round pick for a qb who played a couple of games total somehow has less value than the 7th rounders he picked up in dealing a couple of players? what about the 3rd for jamaal brown? these are moves made by the PRESENT regime. you're getting destroyed here. it's indefensible.

How does McNabb or Brown fit into this? How does former Pro Bowlers being traded for conditional picks fit in with teams trying to swap players that aren't in their plans?

as previously mentioned, iwas hacksawing through the awful stmt you made about how u can remember the days when Washington would make a trade and give up something of importance and get little in return and how those days (assumingly because of your opinion of the current regime) have been replaced with the opposite now the the redskins are the proud owners of a shiny metallic seventh round draft pick or two.

Of course this will lead to how "the Danny" and his lap dog is what made him this way and only a act of God (that's what he'll tribute any post season victories to), will vhange it.

bwahahahahaa. post season victories???? hold on, I'm not done laughing. bwhahahahahahahaha. were talking bout the redskins right???? yeah, ok. um, let's just say I haven't given that any thought. bwhahaha. here's a tip for ya.....worry about not being the divison's doormat for once. concentrate on that, hahaha, playoffs, you're a funny kid!

[KazooSkinsFan]

Hater's gonna hate,

haters gonna hate? really? whAt are you, like 17 years old or something?

Well, now I know that nothing is certain except death, taxes and that Pods will be posting on the Hogs

[1niksder]

Hater's gonna hate,

haters gonna hate? really? whAt are you, like 17 years old or something? I hope you are, anything else and that's just embarrassing.

Don't be embarrassed we all knew what you are after your first post.

prove it in your post. That FACT is he was on the Dolphins roster at the time of the trade discussions and when the cut deadline passed he was STILL on their roster. As I said before you TRIED to minimize it. They tried to get a guy that was going to make the Dolphins roster (and did) for a guy that wasn't going to make the Redskins roster (and didn't).

look at you. just look at that paragraph. look at that long, winding, conniving, spiral of confusion.

let me do something that you can't do...or are afraid to do......type concisely (probably cuz I'm not trying to hide something)

1. you originally said slaton was on fins final dolphin roster.

I stand by that statement and there is no way for you to prove that wasn't the case.... you just can change the facts

2. now you're essentially saying "yeah I knew that hewas cut but my point was at the time of the trade talk he was still there and cut later". which is absolutely misleading (and I think a lie, I don't think you knew he was cut at all at the time of your original post or you would have somewhere, anywhere at leadt would have at least mentioned it, even in passing.

You're correct when you say you don't think, even slow thinkers know a player has to be on the roster in order to be traded, advanced thinkers know that a player can be cut and still traded as long as the trade is made prior to the cut down deadline. You obviouly don't fall into either of those categories.

you can admit it now, you got caught by the poster, someone who knows his football.

Actually you showed how little you know...

The topic was about a player that wasn't going to make the roster being traded for a player on another roster, which drifted to recent trades compared to past trades. But yeah they gave up a 6th round pick in the deal.

great. the last part is all that I wanted you to acknowledge and the rest of your rambling, backtracking answer can be deleted. so now you know that the details of your original content regarding that trade was incorrect and it did also include a draft pick. moving on....

My point was made and your efforts to tarnish them were exposed, you're a bit late in the moving on but you're learning.

See how you pick and choose...

doing the exact same thing you're doing...only with class!

I'm not picking and choosing, I'm destroying each and every bit of your weak reply with the facts. You take a half of statement here and a piece of a quote from there and still come off as the hater that you are.

That fact that a draft pick was included doesn't change the discussion to draft picks...

look.....you're the one, not me, that said "I remember the day when the redskins would trade something and get nothing and now the reverse is happening.....

Something for nothing when? What were we talking about again?
CUT DOWN DAY ROSTER MOVES and PLAYERS that were identified as not going to make the roster.... just because you had know rebuttal to the statement that the team is getting better at it you tried to expand it to all off-season moves, and I called you on it

and if you want to debate me on what shanhan has dealt by way of draft pick value for GARBAGE vs. a couple of conditional late rounders he got for players he shipped out, you're going to get destroyed in that argument.

You responded to my post... that would give the impression that you wanted to debate me, you brought a knife to a gun fight so now you just want to box. I didn't start the debate and neither did you, so as rule following members of this site I think we should stick to the topic of the thread

you wanna tell me his 2nd round pick for a qb who played a couple of games total somehow has less value than the 7th rounders he picked up in dealing a couple of players? what about the 3rd for jamaal brown? these are moves made by the PRESENT regime. you're getting destroyed here. it's indefensible.

How does McNabb or Brown fit into this? How does former Pro Bowlers being traded for conditional picks fit in with teams trying to swap players that aren't in their plans?

Like I said in my first reply... McNabb and Brown is all that you got... it's hold news and we have a excellent search function on this site, you want my opinion on Shanny's year one moves use it.

as previously mentioned, iwas hacksawing through the awful stmt you made about how u can remember the days when Washington would make a trade and give up something of importance and get little in return and how those days (assumingly because of your opinion of the current regime) have been replaced with the opposite now the the redskins are the proud owners of a shiny metallic seventh round draft pick or two.

Note how your not even smart enough to wait a few post before playing down a late round pick they received after I just stated that you would play down any late round picks they picked up, which was why I didn't mention the pick they gave up in the Hightower trade

Of course this will lead to how "the Danny" and his lap dog is what made him this way and only a act of God (that's what he'll tribute any post season victories to), will vhange it.

bwahahahahaa. post season victories???? hold on, I'm not done laughing. bwhahahahahahahaha. were talking bout the redskins right???? yeah, ok. um, let's just say I haven't given that any thought. bwhahaha. here's a tip for ya.....worry about not being the divison's doormat for once. concentrate on that, hahaha, playoffs, you're a funny kid!

OK give this some thought when you debate someone it's not a general practice to prove their points for them. It's not like I need you help making you look bad, in fact you do a good job all my yourself, but if you keep proving me right this won't last long, considering you didn't have a leg on to start with.


You made this long reply and replied to nothing that had anything to do with this topic. You hit reply and added nothing.... You can't prove the FO hasn't changed but you have proved somethings will never change

[the poster]

You made this long reply and replied to nothing that had anything to do with this topic. You hit reply and added nothing.... You can't prove the FO hasn't changed but you have proved somethings will never change

this is as good of a summary as anything. everything you wrote in response I think is utter garbage just like you think the same as mine. so I'll just take this little piece and say the same back to you........you cannot prove the FO HAS changed. or, MoST importantly, you can't say that they're any better of a team despite your claim.

I found errors in your statements (slaton WAS cut, Hightower DID cost a draft pick), I pointed out failed trades by THIS regime (which for me makes them still relavant), and also showed how those trades would always be more harmful to an organization (2nd and 3rd round picks for unproductive players) in weighing them versus the benefits of a 7 rounder or two they got in other MiNoR deals, which your whole premise is based on.

at the end of the day, the final judge and jury is on the field and on the scoreboard. that's where all arguments are finalized. and the scoreboard is always on my side!! let me know when you're out of last place, because you're really scaring the rest of your division with your bounty of conditional 7th round draft picks, hahaha.

[1niksder]

You made this long reply and replied to nothing that had anything to do with this topic. You hit reply and added nothing.... You can't prove the FO hasn't changed but you have proved somethings will never change

this is as good of a summary as anything. everything you wrote in response I think is utter garbage just like you think the same as mine. so I'll just take this little piece and say the same back to you........you cannot prove the FO HAS changed. or, MoST importantly, you can't say that they're any better of a team despite your claim.

I found errors in your statements (slaton WAS cut, Hightower DID cost a draft pick), I pointed out failed trades by THIS regime (which for me makes them still relavant), and also showed how those trades would always be more harmful to an organization (2nd and 3rd round picks for unproductive players) in weighing them versus the benefits of a 7 rounder or two they got in other MiNoR deals, which your whole premise is based on.

at the end of the day, the final judge and jury is on the field and on the scoreboard. that's where all arguments are finalized. and the scoreboard is always on my side!! let me know when you're out of last place, because you're really scaring the rest of your division with your bounty of conditional 7th round draft picks, hahaha.

You wanted to debated weather the front office as changed or not...
Got your weak responses shoved back down your pie hole and now you want leave it up to the players... sounds more like you just want to leave the debate.

You lasted three whole post

[the poster]

You made this long reply and replied to nothing that had anything to do with this topic. You hit reply and added nothing.... You can't prove the FO hasn't changed but you have proved somethings will never change

this is as good of a summary as anything. everything you wrote in response I think is utter garbage just like you think the same as mine. so I'll just take this little piece and say the same back to you........you cannot prove the FO HAS changed. or, MoST importantly, you can't say that they're any better of a team despite your claim.

I found errors in your statements (slaton WAS cut, Hightower DID cost a draft pick), I pointed out failed trades by THIS regime (which for me makes them still relavant), and also showed how those trades would always be more harmful to an organization (2nd and 3rd round picks for unproductive players) in weighing them versus the benefits of a 7 rounder or two they got in other MiNoR deals, which your whole premise is based on.

at the end of the day, the final judge and jury is on the field and on the scoreboard. that's where all arguments are finalized. and the scoreboard is always on my side!! let me know when you're out of last place, because you're really scaring the rest of your division with your bounty of conditional 7th round draft picks, hahaha.

You wanted to debated weather the front office as changed or not...
Got your weak responses shoved back down your pie hole and now you want leave it up to the players... sounds more like you just want to leave the debate.

You lasted three whole post

your argument failed everywhere. and no amount of little emoticons will change that.

your ot as knowledgable as the poster. next time, check your facts. (ha, Hightower didn't include a draft pick.....amateurish)

[DarthMonk]

A straw man, known in the UK as an Aunt Sally, is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position. ~wiki

Close relative:

Putting words in someone's mouth is the practice of misquoting someone deceptively. Rather than a legitimate paraphrase, it distorts the quotation so that it has a significantly different meaning. ~wiki

The poster's posts in this thread are good examples of both tactics.