Wow, I'm fully impressed with how this guy handles questions from the media. Are you kidding me? We have 2 solid Rook QBs.
I love RGIII....and this guy Cousins ain't so bad either.
“If I’m not good enough, then I won’t,” Cousins added, referring to becoming a starter, somewhere, in the future. “But I shouldn’t get that opportunity if I’m not good enough.”
“So the way I see it, I need to develop day in and day out, get better and better and if, at some point, the coaches here [or] the coaches elsewhere feel like they see something in me that merits being a starting quarterback, I’ll get that opportunity,” the 24-year-old continued. “But I’m not going to sweat the day-to-day, what my role is. I need to have the long view in mind, and if I do that, I think good things will come.”
cowboykillerzRED wrote:As much as I'd love to have a good back up for years to come, he's a preseason or two (max) away from bringing us a good draft pick no doubt.
Either way, we win.
I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"
As I have said on other threads concerning Cousins....I was not a fan of using the pick for him on draft day....but I can see that I may have been wrong as he definitely has looked solid in the pre-season games so far....better than many other QB's (rookie and veteran) that I have observed this pre-season.
Who knows, maybe Arizona or Seattle will come calling with offers of draft choices shortly....
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Failures are expected by losers, ignored by winners.
rskin72 wrote:As I have said on other threads concerning Cousins....I was not a fan of using the pick for him on draft day....but I can see that I may have been wrong as he definitely has looked solid in the pre-season games so far....better than many other QB's (rookie and veteran) that I have observed this pre-season. In some ways, he has looked as good as RGIII merely because the coaches have apparently opened the playbook for him, while keeping the lid on RGIII. And no, not starting a campaign for Cousins as the starting QB!!!!
Who knows, maybe Arizona or Seattle will come calling with offers of draft choices shortly....
A winning effort begins with preparation.
Failures are expected by losers, ignored by winners.
rskin72 wrote:As I have said on other threads concerning Cousins....I was not a fan of using the pick for him on draft day....but I can see that I may have been wrong as he definitely has looked solid in the pre-season games so far....better than many other QB's (rookie and veteran) that I have observed this pre-season.
Who knows, maybe Arizona or Seattle will come calling with offers of draft choices shortly....
You haven't seen Russel Wilson play. They have a QB problem in that they gave a ton of money to Flynn but Wilson is playing lights out.
It's a good problem to have two QBs who are ready to play vs not having one like last year.
rskin72 wrote:As I have said on other threads concerning Cousins....I was not a fan of using the pick for him on draft day....but I can see that I may have been wrong as he definitely has looked solid in the pre-season games so far....better than many other QB's (rookie and veteran) that I have observed this pre-season.
Who knows, maybe Arizona or Seattle will come calling with offers of draft choices shortly....
You haven't seen Russel Wilson play. They have a QB problem in that they gave a ton of money to Flynn but Wilson is playing lights out.
It's a good problem to have two QBs who are ready to play vs not having one like last year.
Yea, you are right, have not seen the Seahawks yet. Agree with you, however, that I have more confidence in RGIII/Cousins than last season with Grossman/Beck. Think you actually CAN win with RGIII/Cousins!!!
A winning effort begins with preparation.
Failures are expected by losers, ignored by winners.
Frankie....Russell Wilson is playing "lights out"....he's pretty polished.
As with all these Rooks, except Luck and III...I wonder how Rooks would fare vs. the 1st team D...?
Proverbs 27:17 As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.
rskin72 wrote:As I have said on other threads concerning Cousins....I was not a fan of using the pick for him on draft day....but I can see that I may have been wrong as he definitely has looked solid in the pre-season games so far....better than many other QB's (rookie and veteran) that I have observed this pre-season.
Who knows, maybe Arizona or Seattle will come calling with offers of draft choices shortly....
I wouldn't trade him quite yet.
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
I was also against drafting Cousins on draft day. However his play on the field has changed my mind. Glad to have him now. Mature beyond his years. I think he will become a starter in this league.
tribeofjudah wrote:Frankie....Russell Wilson is playing "lights out"....he's pretty polished. As with all these Rooks, except Luck and III...I wonder how Rooks would fare vs. the 1st team D...?
Heck, i would like to see RGIII running many of the plays that Cousins is. To me it seems like the wraps are being kept on RGIII, but Cousins is being allowed to run more of the offense that we all expect to see this season.
A winning effort begins with preparation.
Failures are expected by losers, ignored by winners.
tribeofjudah wrote:Frankie....Russell Wilson is playing "lights out"....he's pretty polished. As with all these Rooks, except Luck and III...I wonder how Rooks would fare vs. the 1st team D...?
As a North Carolina State fan, I've watched Russell play from day 1. Folks have said his height is a problem but I can tell you he is so good in the pocket that he finds throwing lanes and always finds the open receiver. He doesn't turn the ball over and his dangerous running as well (ran a 4.4 40 at the combine). There is no doubt in my mind that this guy will do nothing but be 100% successful in the NFL and given the obstacles he's overcome, I hope he does. He's a GREAT kid and a hell of a team player and leader. He's the kind of kid you hope that your daughter brings home to meet you one day. I've met him in person a number of times and we talk all the time on facebook and twitter. Wouldn't say we're "Friends" but you know what I mean. We've chatted enough that if he saw me, he would know who I am.
Some players just have "It" and he has it. In all honesty, I really think that Cousins is very similar to Wilson. At NC State, Wilson ran a pro-style WCO system just like they run at MSU and here in DC. Cousin in all honesty is better suited to play in the system right now but RG3 has WAY more upside and skills. Please don't think I think that Cousins should start over RG3, I just think that Cousins is ready to play in our system now and RG3 will need to grow into it along w/ the coaches creating gameplans and plays suited for RG3.
Kirk Cousins had just planted his right foot at the top of his 5-step drop when he felt a thump against his helmet Saturday night.
A Chicago Bears defensive end had struck a glancing blow in an attempt to plant Cousins into the turf.
“Oh boy,” Cousins recalled thinking at that moment. “He was closer than I thought he was.”
Cousins was unfazed, though, his composure belying his inexperience as a fourth-round rookie quarterback in only his second preseason game. He stepped forward in the pocket and zipped a short throw to his outlet, tight end Logan Paulsen, crossing the middle.
A play that could have ended in panic and disarray resulted in a 7-yard gain because of Cousins‘ poise.
tribeofjudah wrote:Frankie....Russell Wilson is playing "lights out"....he's pretty polished. As with all these Rooks, except Luck and III...I wonder how Rooks would fare vs. the 1st team D...?
As a North Carolina State fan, I've watched Russell play from day 1. Folks have said his height is a problem but I can tell you he is so good in the pocket that he finds throwing lanes and always finds the open receiver. He doesn't turn the ball over and his dangerous running as well (ran a 4.4 40 at the combine). There is no doubt in my mind that this guy will do nothing but be 100% successful in the NFL and given the obstacles he's overcome, I hope he does. He's a GREAT kid and a hell of a team player and leader. He's the kind of kid you hope that your daughter brings home to meet you one day. I've met him in person a number of times and we talk all the time on facebook and twitter. Wouldn't say we're "Friends" but you know what I mean. We've chatted enough that if he saw me, he would know who I am.
Some players just have "It" and he has it. In all honesty, I really think that Cousins is very similar to Wilson. At NC State, Wilson ran a pro-style WCO system just like they run at MSU and here in DC. Cousin in all honesty is better suited to play in the system right now but RG3 has WAY more upside and skills. Please don't think I think that Cousins should start over RG3, I just think that Cousins is ready to play in our system now and RG3 will need to grow into it along w/ the coaches creating gameplans and plays suited for RG3.
As to your point about Cousins being more ready now than RGIII to play in our system, one thing stuck out to me in a recent cooley interview (Sorry, I don't have the link, but someone has already posted about this elsewhere). He mentioned that the offense being run by the second/third team is a lot closer to what our offense looks like and that what the first team is running is something different (or something to this effect). I wonder, then, what role that plays in your assessment. That's more a rhetorical than practical question. When I saw that I remember thinking, well, hell, how are we supposed to judge his handle of the offense then? I'm sure there's a perfectly legitimate reason for running the preseason this way (not the least obvious of which is that MS doesn't want to show his entire hand in preseason), but I do wonder what our offense looks like with Robert running it, cause I don't think that is what we're seeing.
As one who loved the KC pick as soon as I heard about it, I love what I'm seeing out of him.
I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"
I think that the Shanahans are customizing their offense to fit each guys talents. They are very different QBs. RG3 is similar to Steve Young to me (QB style not success) and Cousins in college and preseason seems more like a Matt Schaub QB who can maneuver in the pocket and get out and run a little if need be but not going to be a running threat.
It seems to me that what ey alluded to is correct. Whatever plays they were running with RGIII didn't seem as natural to the players and didn't set up as fast as when cousins was in there. Maybe it is just me but cousins reps seemed more like what RGIII ran in the first PS game. We'll see if they game plan some for the 3rd Game and see a more Reg. Season offense by the first stringers.
Doubt it.. it seems to me they are keeping a lid on this rgiii fella everyone is talking about... A tight lid.
Through two games he has less then half the passes of people like Luck, Manning, tannehill etc etc etc etc etc
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emoses14 wrote:He mentioned that the offense being run by the second/third team is a lot closer to what our offense looks like and that what the first team is running is something different (or something to this effect). I wonder, then, what role that plays in your assessment. That's more a rhetorical than practical question. When I saw that I remember thinking, well, hell, how are we supposed to judge his handle of the offense then? I'm sure there's a perfectly legitimate reason for running the preseason this way (not the least obvious of which is that MS doesn't want to show his entire hand in preseason), but I do wonder what our offense looks like with Robert running it, cause I don't think that is what we're seeing.
He's talking about the offense being tailored for RGIII. Cousins played in a more pro-style offense in college. They are adding tweaks for RGIII, that are not part of Cousins' training at QB. That's why the first team and backup squads are running different plays. So, what you're seeing from RGIII right now is a vanilla form of what you will be seeing in the regular season.
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emoses14 wrote:He mentioned that the offense being run by the second/third team is a lot closer to what our offense looks like and that what the first team is running is something different (or something to this effect). I wonder, then, what role that plays in your assessment. That's more a rhetorical than practical question. When I saw that I remember thinking, well, hell, how are we supposed to judge his handle of the offense then? I'm sure there's a perfectly legitimate reason for running the preseason this way (not the least obvious of which is that MS doesn't want to show his entire hand in preseason), but I do wonder what our offense looks like with Robert running it, cause I don't think that is what we're seeing.
He's talking about the offense being tailored for RGIII. Cousins played in a more pro-style offense in college. They are adding tweaks for RGIII, that are not part of Cousins' training at QB. That's why the first team and backup squads are running different plays. So, what you're seeing from RGIII right now is a vanilla form of what you will be seeing in the regular season.
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I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"
emoses14 wrote:He mentioned that the offense being run by the second/third team is a lot closer to what our offense looks like and that what the first team is running is something different (or something to this effect). I wonder, then, what role that plays in your assessment. That's more a rhetorical than practical question. When I saw that I remember thinking, well, hell, how are we supposed to judge his handle of the offense then? I'm sure there's a perfectly legitimate reason for running the preseason this way (not the least obvious of which is that MS doesn't want to show his entire hand in preseason), but I do wonder what our offense looks like with Robert running it, cause I don't think that is what we're seeing.
He's talking about the offense being tailored for RGIII. Cousins played in a more pro-style offense in college. They are adding tweaks for RGIII, that are not part of Cousins' training at QB. That's why the first team and backup squads are running different plays. So, what you're seeing from RGIII right now is a vanilla form of what you will be seeing in the regular season.
I don't quite read it like that. I read it like this: The second and third string are running what the vast majority of the regular season offense will look like. The first team is running new hybrid versions of Baylor's/skins playbook for RG3 to see how the team reacts and to see what will work. Or am I just missing it all together?
emoses14 wrote:He mentioned that the offense being run by the second/third team is a lot closer to what our offense looks like and that what the first team is running is something different (or something to this effect). I wonder, then, what role that plays in your assessment. That's more a rhetorical than practical question. When I saw that I remember thinking, well, hell, how are we supposed to judge his handle of the offense then? I'm sure there's a perfectly legitimate reason for running the preseason this way (not the least obvious of which is that MS doesn't want to show his entire hand in preseason), but I do wonder what our offense looks like with Robert running it, cause I don't think that is what we're seeing.
He's talking about the offense being tailored for RGIII. Cousins played in a more pro-style offense in college. They are adding tweaks for RGIII, that are not part of Cousins' training at QB. That's why the first team and backup squads are running different plays. So, what you're seeing from RGIII right now is a vanilla form of what you will be seeing in the regular season.
I don't quite read it like that. I read it like this: The second and third string are running what the vast majority of the regular season offense will look like. The first team is running new hybrid versions of Baylor's/skins playbook for RG3 to see how the team reacts and to see what will work. Or am I just missing it all together?
Nope... that's the jist of it... What the first team is running is what will be filtered and incorporated into Shanahan's playbook. It's a option they didn't use with McNugget and with RGIII's skill set if they didn't go this route they (the Shannies) should both shot, then fired
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Wait, I'm confused. I thought that MS/KS couldn't adapt the playbook to the players. I thought he was too arrogant and rigid to acknowledge that any variation to his exact plan and vision was to admit failure and men don't do that!
Or are we to believe that a washed up qb might be a bit bitter about being so decidely dismissed for sucking?
I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"
emoses14 wrote:Wait, I'm confused. I thought that MS/KS couldn't adapt the playbook to the players. I thought he was too arrogant and rigid to acknowledge that any variation to his exact plan and vision was to admit failure and men don't do that!
Or are we to believe that a washed up qb might be a bit bitter about being so decidely dismissed for sucking?
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emoses14 wrote:He mentioned that the offense being run by the second/third team is a lot closer to what our offense looks like and that what the first team is running is something different (or something to this effect). I wonder, then, what role that plays in your assessment. That's more a rhetorical than practical question. When I saw that I remember thinking, well, hell, how are we supposed to judge his handle of the offense then? I'm sure there's a perfectly legitimate reason for running the preseason this way (not the least obvious of which is that MS doesn't want to show his entire hand in preseason), but I do wonder what our offense looks like with Robert running it, cause I don't think that is what we're seeing.
He's talking about the offense being tailored for RGIII. Cousins played in a more pro-style offense in college. They are adding tweaks for RGIII, that are not part of Cousins' training at QB. That's why the first team and backup squads are running different plays. So, what you're seeing from RGIII right now is a vanilla form of what you will be seeing in the regular season.
I don't quite read it like that. I read it like this: The second and third string are running what the vast majority of the regular season offense will look like. The first team is running new hybrid versions of Baylor's/skins playbook for RG3 to see how the team reacts and to see what will work. Or am I just missing it all together?
Isn't that what I said?
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
ey alluded to is correct. Whatever plays they were running with RGIII didn't seem as natural to the players and didn't set up as fast as when cousins was in there. Maybe it is just me but cousins reps seemed more like what RGIII ran in the first PS game. We'll see if they game plan some for the 3rd Game and see a more Reg. Season offense by the first stringers.
I thought that MS/KS couldn't adapt the playbook to the players. I thought he was too arrogant and rigid to acknowledge that any variation to his exact plan and vision was to admit failure and men don't do that!
