revisiting the trade with the Rams

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:35 am

Deadskins wrote:I love watching these gals flame out every year.

What have I been saying, some of them are too stupid to not pick the shortest fuse :shock:

Mississippiskinsfan2 · Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:09 pm

1niksder wrote:
the poster wrote:
1niksder wrote:I'm thinking you just called me a troll... but that would mean you're attacking me and not my post

then you're gonna be a very busy person, as it has been used in similar fashion by all your regulars, including yourself. can u ban yourself? how does that work when you break the rules?

Go Browms

I knew you were a browns fan!

We treat everyone the same around here (that includes me} and they (and I) were warned when they did it, none of us advised any of the staff that we'd be busy in response to their warning, you on the other hand have no idea who you're dealing with. I'll put it this...

I've been doing this for a while so don't threaten me with a good time, do your thang.

You can try to make me busy but the only thing you'll do is make the other members happy. It's hard to be a troll when you can't post.

And another thing: dftt isn't a attack on you it's a PSA to our bored members, it means they are subject to feel dumber when they realize the time wasted after reading your post...

You can word it any way you want but he's still not going to get it

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:22 pm

Mississippiskinsfan2 wrote:
You can word it any way you want but he's still not going to get it

He'll get it... one way or the other

Everybody wants him to "get it"

It's soley up to him what "it" is that he gets.

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:50 pm

BOM!
Roasted.

RayNAustin · Post by **RayNAustin** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:11 pm

Back to the question ...

For those who still have any reservation about the necessity and value of the trade up to select RG3, ...... I would direct them to review Rex's performance against Buffalo, and how he looked more like a rookie than both RG3 and Cousins.

For the Redskins to finally acquire a top level talent at QB was not only necessary, but would have been a gross malfeasance had they not been aggressive enough to secure the pick.

And we don't need to wait to understand that ... that's a fact right now.

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:18 pm

Give this man a cigar!
Or at least a round of applause, shut this thread down its been killed now.

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:49 am

RayNAustin wrote:Back to the question ...

For those who still have any reservation about the necessity and value of the trade up to select RG3, ...... I would direct them to review Rex's performance against Buffalo, and how he looked more like a rookie than both RG3 and Cousins.

For the Redskins to finally acquire a top level talent at QB was not only necessary, but would have been a gross malfeasance had they not been aggressive enough to secure the pick.

And we don't need to wait to understand that ... that's a fact right now.

What he said.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:23 am

emoses14 wrote:
RayNAustin wrote:Back to the question ...

For those who still have any reservation about the necessity and value of the trade up to select RG3, ...... I would direct them to review Rex's performance against Buffalo, and how he looked more like a rookie than both RG3 and Cousins.

For the Redskins to finally acquire a top level talent at QB was not only necessary, but would have been a gross malfeasance had they not been aggressive enough to secure the pick.

And we don't need to wait to understand that ... that's a fact right now.

What he said.

and - just look at the mistake the Browns made in not getting RGIII

they will most likely be picking 1st or 2nd in the next draft .. AND could end up getting Barkley
and then ... I doubt that he's ever going to be as good as RGIII :twisted:

heads should roll at that stupid franchise :wink:

RGIII is a game changer for both this franchise and the NFC EAST :lol:

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:36 am

SkinsJock wrote:heads should roll at that stupid franchise

They already have.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:11 am

RayNAustin wrote:Back to the question ...

For those who still have any reservation about the necessity and value of the trade up to select RG3, ...... I would direct them to review Rex's performance against Buffalo, and how he looked more like a rookie than both RG3 and Cousins.

Which is precisely why we could not afford to draft Tannehill and wait for around game 6 to be ready to start, by then the season would be lost. We needed a QB that had the potential to be the Day 1 starter. Turned out Day 1 meant OTAs. Who called that one?

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:26 am

Red_One43 wrote:
RayNAustin wrote:Back to the question ...

For those who still have any reservation about the necessity and value of the trade up to select RG3, ...... I would direct them to review Rex's performance against Buffalo, and how he looked more like a rookie than both RG3 and Cousins.

Which is precisely why we could not afford to draft Tannehill and wait for around game 6 to be ready to start, by then the season would be lost. We needed a QB that had the potential to be the Day 1 starter. Turned out Day 1 meant OTAs. Who called that one?

I'm not gonna go fishing. I'll just ask in reverse.

Who called Grossman as the starter in OTAs?

:lol:

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:26 am

Whatever, Sexy Rexy is the man and he should be the starter.

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikkkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeee !!!!!

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:44 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
Red_One43 wrote:
RayNAustin wrote:Back to the question ...

For those who still have any reservation about the necessity and value of the trade up to select RG3, ...... I would direct them to review Rex's performance against Buffalo, and how he looked more like a rookie than both RG3 and Cousins.

Which is precisely why we could not afford to draft Tannehill and wait for around game 6 to be ready to start, by then the season would be lost. We needed a QB that had the potential to be the Day 1 starter. Turned out Day 1 meant OTAs. Who called that one?

I'm not gonna go fishing. I'll just ask in reverse.

Who called Grossman as the starter in OTAs?

Now, that is funny! :lol:

the poster · Post by **the poster** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:58 pm

Red_One43 wrote: We needed a QB that had the potential to be the Day 1 starter.

and so "you" could also sell tshirts to a preseason game. embarrassing.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -showdown/

the poster · Post by **the poster** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:09 pm

SkinsJock wrote:and - just look at the mistake the Browns made in not getting RGIII

i dont know if you could label that a mistake, the browns got outbid. ohh, wait, i just commented on that team from Cleveland....I MUST be a fan of thiers.....

trolls like responses a-lurking....

they will most likely be picking 1st or 2nd in the next draft .. AND could end up getting Barkley and then

they'll likely be garbage, but we'll see. but even if they are, if they are 3-13 and washington is 7-9 (speaking of "likely") ....who cares??

Then Cleveland presumably drafts thier franchise QB next year with the main difference being they didnt mortgage their future in doing so.

omg, I mentioned the Browns twice....how can I NOT be a fan of theirs???

... I doubt that he's ever going to be as good as RGIII

I know redskin fans have already put RG3 in the hall of fame in typical redskin-fan-in-the-offseason-style but I will remind you that:

a) he's skinny, built like Michael Vick and we know how healthy Vick is each year
b) he's playing for............the washington redskins. where "stars" careers' end.

RGIII is a game changer for both this franchise and the NFC EAST

the nfc east?? ha. He better find 21 stronger, faster, and better friends? This ain't the NFC West. He might good, and you all will never believe this but I don't care, I hope he is awesome for the Redskins, but that is not exactly the franchise (along with the browns, rams, and some others) known for success.

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:55 pm

Skinny? Like the leading passer for a single season ever?
*smack*

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:19 pm

In response to Skeletor's questions, thought it would be fun to look back on what was being said. Note: The price that Todd McShay initially came up with - wasn't even close.

Todd McShay, ESPN:

I think it was somewhere in the ballpark of a second and fourth, if I remember correctly. But I also think that the trade value chart, while helpful, it’s – first of all, it’s never exact.

DarthMonk, I am sure that you will note that McShay recognizes that the two first round picks are exchanged (6th for 2nd), so the total number of picks given to the Rams is only two.

There were a lot of threads where the topic of RGIII came up - I am not sure which thread Skeletor was talking about, but I chose these four.

Exhibit A - has a poll that give some insight, but this thread didn't have much participation.

Exhibit 1A - by its title generated a lot of participation.

Exhibit B - Provides us with the McShay quote and discussion.

Exhibit C - I believe was the first to open up the debate

Trade Up for RGIII Debate Exhibit A

Why We Wont Draft a QB in Rounds 1 or 2 (Exhibit 1B)

Trade Up for RGIII debate Exhibit B

No Luck...so...Now What? Exhibit C