Why not Do it Again....WRs.. Who stays - Who goes?

[DarthMonk]

Why don't any (almost) of our receivers catch with their hands? They are all (almost) letting the ball get into their bodies and pads. It's really ticking me off.


YES




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Needed to get that "off my chest."

DarthMonk

[skinpride1]

I am not going to be surprised because I already put him in my 7.

It's not saying too much to list him as the 7th WR... That's safe. I think what will be suprising is how high he ends up on the chart 6 games into the season. That potentially will be the shocker. We are LOADED at WR, or so it seems.

Garcon
Hank
Moss
Josh
Briscoe...

If I had to make a bold prediction, Briscoe gets some playing time in the top 3 rotation halfway into the season. I wouldn't be shocked to see multiple WR sets within the 20 with him involved and Moss out...

I wouldnt be surprised at all to see Briscoe rotated in when we get into the red zone after a long drive. I said Briscoe was an average NFL WR but that is not a bad thing . Below average WR now that is a bad thing. I see Briscoe being ahead of Aldrick and Banks. I think Banks got his shot in the last game wouldnt surprise me to see some other WR getting more balls thrown there way Sat. night.

I think that it is reasonable to see Briscoe come in, but do you think that Shanny might want to get a look at Hank and/or Morgan as red zone guys before bringing in Briscoe?

I agree about Banks. I am thinking that we might see AAA highlighted on Saturday. I am also wondering if Samuel Kirkland might have earned him some reps.

Shanny already knows what he has in Hank and Morgan. I really don't agree that Shanny and Kyle are going to focus on the smaller speedy WR. They want a physical WR that can get good YAC , Shanny talked about it being one of the things at top of the list this year and led to signing Garcon cause he is so good with YAC. not saying the smaller WR can't find a place in the scheme but until the YAC come up I think it will be bottom of the list.

[Red_One43]

^I can buy that about knowing what Morgan and Hank can do and maybe trying Briscoe. Allow me to clarify what I ment by highlighting AAA.
Banks got 9 passes thrown to him, I am thinking maybe AAA gets those opportunities because he is on the bubble as well. I do get that Shanny wants YAC receivers. I agree with you that there is a place for smaller receivers, but I have no problem with the top five being 6'0 or taller.

[Red_One43]

Receiver Report Taken from Mike Jone's PR

During another trip inside the end zone, the offense experienced success when Terrence Austin – battling for one of the final wide receiver spots – made a diving catch in the back of the end zone.

The first-team defense got a little fired up when Pierre Garcon caught a pass along the left sideline only to be knocked out of bounds around the 2-yard line by Madieu Williams. On the following play, Robert Griffin III tried a fade to Garcon in the corner of the end zone. Josh Wilson and Brian Orakpo had the wideout covered, and Garcon couldn’t come up with the catch.

I cut the last part of this last part because it was not about the receivers. On third down the defense stuffed Royster denying the Offense a score. You can read it in the report. It sounds like the intensity of practices is stronger than the Buffalo game - I think the Buffalo O line just objected to that last statement.

[Red_One43]

Why don't any (almost) of our receivers catch with their hands? They are all (almost) letting the ball get into their bodies and pads. It's really ticking me off.


YES




NO



Needed to get that "off my chest."

DarthMonk

They don't want to get their gloves torn up by RGIII's passes.

Those gloves cost money!

Seriously, I hear ya!

[Chris Luva Luva]

Why don't any (almost) of our receivers catch with their hands? They are all (almost) letting the ball get into their bodies and pads. It's really ticking me off.

Who are you referring to? That's a pretty wide net you just cast.

The only "WR" that I noticed consistently letting passes get into his body was Banks.

Garcon, Hank, Moss, Josh, Briscoe, Fred Davis and ey are all pretty good at catching with their hands consistently.


Speaking of people who pluck a pass out of the air...

There’s also a noticeable difference between how fast WR Dezmon Briscoe is playing now and when he first joined the team two weeks ago. Initially he was not explosive in his routes and didn’t finish his run blocks, but he’s had a string of solid practices.

“I feel very confident going to the huddle now,” he said after practice. “I got real deep in the playbook and dedicated myself to know everything, so the coaches can trust me and depend on me when they have to put me in.

Briscoe, he's gonna make it.

[DarthMonk]

Why don't any (almost) of our receivers catch with their hands? They are all (almost) letting the ball get into their bodies and pads. It's really ticking me off.

Who are you referring to? That's a pretty wide net you just cast.

I watched the game a 2nd time and saw virtually every receiver do this on virtually every pass. I think they focus in drills but revert to bad habits in games.

Paul was TRYING to snatch but had a really bad night. I hope it was an anomaly. Morgan made some good snatches.

Almost all other catches (or drops) were of the other variety.

DarthMonk

[Red_One43]

Shanahan on Briscoe after practice 8/15:

Dezmon Briscoe—“You can see he is a football player. He has made plays throughout training camp and practice, and he will get a chance to get some playing time.”

[Chris Luva Luva]

Shanahan on Briscoe after practice 8/15:

Dezmon Briscoe—“You can see he is a football player. He has made plays throughout training camp and practice, and he will get a chance to get some playing time.”

That doesn't sound like someone you cut and allow to go to Dallas... Cus that's where he'll end up if we release him.

[Red_One43]

Shanahan on Briscoe after practice 8/15:

Dezmon Briscoe—“You can see he is a football player. He has made plays throughout training camp and practice, and he will get a chance to get some playing time.”

That doesn't sound like someone you cut and allow to go to Dallas... Cus that's where he'll end up if we release him.

With you on this. I have no doubt that he will have a slot on our final roster.

[Red_One43]

Armstrong Makes his Case to Make the 53

“You get better at your route running so they have faith to put you out on the field in those situations. You make all the catches you can,” Armstrong said. “You can’t just be the guy that runs downfield and catches the ball over your shoulder. You’ve got to be able to run the curls and the comebacks and take the tight angles at the top of your routes, and be able to come back and attack the ball. Best case is they gain some faith, and then say, ‘OK, we can throw him in there on some other downs, not just third-and-20 against Seattle.’”

What Armstrong mentions here, as things to do, fit Banks' issues in the Buff game. Route running! Route Running! Route Running! Take it from a guy who wants to make the team as a wideout. "Tight angles at the top of your routes" - That takes care of the slipping issue and gets separation. "Comeback and attack the ball" - that will allow the smaller receiver, who can't shield the defender with is body, to get to the ball before the defender can bat it away.

We could see a better Armstrong than even the 2010 version when he plays Saturday night. It is clear by his words above, that he gets it.

[langleyparkjoe]

I love this battle we have going on in camp. Better competition in practice makes for a better player on gameday.

[Red_One43]

I love this battle we have going on in camp. Better competition in practice makes for a better player on gameday.

Hey, you sound like Shanny!

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Or SJ!
Lmao I kid I kid... Well, kinda

[SkinsJock]

[Red_One43]

More Media Support for Briscoe

We'll know how much the coaches like him by how much playing time he receives. If the Redskins throw the ball his way nine times–like they did with Brandon Banks week one–that's a good sign for Dezmon Briscoe. The staff refers to that as "giving him every chance." And as a back-up receiver, you can't ask for anymore than that.

That would be nice to see another receiver get that many passes thrown to them, but they better hope it's not Grossman doing the throwing (just joking here) Yes, It would appear to be a good sign that the coaches are "giving you every chance."

[1niksder]

More Media Support for Briscoe

We'll know how much the coaches like him by how much playing time he receives. If the Redskins throw the ball his way nine times–like they did with Brandon Banks week one–that's a good sign for Dezmon Briscoe. The staff refers to that as "giving him every chance." And as a back-up receiver, you can't ask for anymore than that.

That would be nice to see another receiver get that many passes thrown to them, but they better hope it's not Grossman doing the throwing (just joking here) Yes, It would appear to be a good sign that the coaches are "giving you every chance."

Now that Dez is in the WR discussion mix, let's see if he gets in the return man discussion mix He returned kicks at Kansas and had one kickoff return last year for the Bucs (12 yards ). I don't think he reurns punts but he has a istory in the kickoff return game. Might become interesting considering IMO there are 4 guys and only two (at the most) spots to fill. Briscoe is the only only one of the four never mentioned as a returner

[ATX_Skins]

I could return punts, sign Briscoe

[Red_One43]

Aldrick Robinson on his improvement on returning punts

Aldrick Robinson is anxious for another chance to return punts. He attempted to return two last summer, but he had never done it in college and fumbled both his opportunities vs. Pittsburgh in the preseason. But Robinson worked a lot on catching punts while on the practice squad last season. He said he catches 10 punts a day now in practice (they rotate the returners).

“Last preseason was kind of tough,” he said. “But I’ve learned how to catch the ball. I’m better at catching it and feel more comfortable. I’m way better than I was.”

Last summer he was trying to make plays before he even had the ball.

“It’s just being more comfortable back there with people running at you,” Robinson said. “You’ve got nerves going off and then you’re trying to judge the ball. Now I can judge the ball better and get up under it and catch it better.”

He’s not sure he’ll get a chance to return punts Saturday.

Aldrick seems like he still lacks the confidence in returning punts. He says "comfortable," but doesn't say confident.

[Red_One43]

Armstrong Makes his Case to Make the 53

“You get better at your route running so they have faith to put you out on the field in those situations. You make all the catches you can,” Armstrong said. “You can’t just be the guy that runs downfield and catches the ball over your shoulder. You’ve got to be able to run the curls and the comebacks and take the tight angles at the top of your routes, and be able to come back and attack the ball. Best case is they gain some faith, and then say, ‘OK, we can throw him in there on some other downs, not just third-and-20 against Seattle.’”

What Armstrong mentions here, as things to do, fit Banks' issues in the Buff game. Route running! Route Running! Route Running! Take it from a guy who wants to make the team as a wideout. "Tight angles at the top of your routes" - That takes care of the slipping issue and gets separation. "Comeback and attack the ball" - that will allow the smaller receiver, who can't shield the defender with is body, to get to the ball before the defender can bat it away.

We could see a better Armstrong than even the 2010 version when he plays Saturday night. It is clear by his words above, that he gets it.

Armstrong mentions getting better at route running. Yes, a slant is a slant and post is a post, but what is there to get better at route running if receivers did that in college? Most teams college teams don't demand the precision in its routes that he pros do.

Here's Shanny's view:

... I want them to break right at 10 yards on a certain play, and not 8 or 12... We go through everything so the players really understand why it's so important to be in the exact place at an exact time.

A receiver like Aldrick Robinson coming out of a college which demands the receivers run pro routes, has an advantage coming into the pros. Even after his disasterous punt return performance, last year, he still found himself on the 53 for the final game last year.

Going into tonight's game against the Bears, Robinson has the advantage on route running, but AAA has the experience and has proved he has what it takes mentally to play at this level. I am expecting to see the two of them get plenty of playing time.

Shanny's quote comes from:
Think Like a Champion: Building Success One Victory at a Time by Mike Shanahan with Adam Schefter. Chapter 4. Page 52.

[The Hogster]

Banks!! The only thing surprising about that return for a TD is that it wasn't called back.

That is why he makes this team. Because he can do that.

[1niksder]

Banks!! The only thing surprising about that return for a TD is that it wasn't called back.

That is why he makes this team. Because he can do that.

Shanny says he need to do more than that...

What did he do

It was only 91 yards ... for a touchdown, in a game they lost by two points.

So what they were down by 20 before his return, and the defense just so happened to started to play defense when they went back on the field.

There are a bunch of guys on this roster that can do that when they're not running routes, out jumping DBs for overthrown balls and blocking down field on running plays.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Banks!! The only thing surprising about that return for a TD is that it wasn't called back.

That is why he makes this team. Because he can do that.

My DAWG!

[1niksder]

Banks!! The only thing surprising about that return for a TD is that it wasn't called back.

That is why he makes this team. Because he can do that.

Shanny says he need to do more than that...

What did he do

It was only 91 yards ... for a touchdown, in a game they lost by two points.

So what they were down by 20 before his return, and the defense just so happened to started to play defense when they went back on the field.

There are a bunch of guys on this roster that can do that when they're not running routes, out jumping DBs for overthrown balls and blocking down field on running plays.

Did Kirk Cousins lock up Banks spot for him?

[Chris Luva Luva]

Banks!! The only thing surprising about that return for a TD is that it wasn't called back.

That is why he makes this team. Because he can do that.

I agree. Now the Banks detractors can finally STFU about his ability to contribute.

That TD would have been the difference in the W/L column had this been a real game.