is Joe Gibbs the most overrated coach of all time?

RayNAustin · Post by **RayNAustin** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:59 pm

When I saw the title of the thread, my thoughts filled with the memories of the best years ever for Redskin fans, and for a much beloved coach deserving of every ounce of adulation he received ... praise for which his humbleness never took for granted, nor did he ever fail to express his gratitude to us, as if we were responsible for his great success. And he never failed to make us proud.

Coach Joe was not just a great football coach, but a great example for which everyone could learn a thing or two about being a better person, which is significantly more important than winning football games. That he was able to maintain his unquestionable character and disarming humbleness even in the spotlight of sports highest achievements, is testimony to the fact that this world could never have too many Joe Gibbs in it. In fact, we are sorely in need of many more.

Always ready to accept responsibility for every failure regardless of the nature, while never failing to insist on giving credit to others for the many successes and achievements, coach Joe was, and still is an impeccable example of decency, humility, and all of the best qualities a man should aspire to.

As for winning a Super Bowl in a strike shortened season, far from detracting from the value of his accomplishments, that might be the center piece ... the quintessential example of his genius and wisdom. Whether it be how coach Joe implored his regular players to stick together and not cross the picket line, knowing that such lack of unity could fracture the camaraderie he'd worked so hard to instill ... he continued on to work diligently to organize an effective team of replacement players in their absence, even able to defeat the Cowboys with a substantial number of regular players who had broken the strike ... Joe did what he always was able to do ... win in spite of the odds, while not compromising his bullet proof integrity.

Was it a shock to the lifelong stalwart veterans of the race car circuit, when this retired football coach and newcomer captured their crown jewel ...the Daytona 500 ? Maybe they were surprised ... but for those who knew Joe Jackson Gibbs ..... it was no surprise at all. It was something we all expected, because that's all we ever saw Joe Gibbs do.

Although if I had to bet, I'd be willing to wager that Joe Gibbs would be the first person to agree with "The Poster" .... Joe always tended to downplay his role in those great achievements. He'd be wrong of course, but for all of the right reasons ... as Joe's most endearing quality would no allow him to disagree. His humbleness wouldn't permit it.

Joe Gibbs always was a winner, in the very best ways a man can be measured. And it's always nice to have a reason to recall such fond memories, even if that was not the intent of the thread.

Thanks anyway.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:33 am

Ray, nice job.

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:58 am

rskin72 wrote:Spenser...i agree with many of your thoughts on the poster. I have never quite understood how someone has so much time to post tripe on a website of a team he does not like.

So moderators...instead of expecting the bm's not to reply to any musing from said poster in the hope that he will just fade into the sunset...why not just delete posts and threads from him as it is within the rules for this board? Why throw temptation our way?

That would make way too much sense and take the fun away from the circus act around here. Poster is a top notch nut case.. he isnt going anywhere cause he found the one site that will put up with his silly games.

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:39 am

A person may get lucky once in there lifetime. I would say Barry Switzer coiming into a SuperBowl ready roster was one example.

Joe Gibbs going to the SuperBowl four times in his career is no small accomplishment. If anything he might be underrated.

Think of it this way. Joe Gibbs overated? Says who? The Browns fan! Nuff said.

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:37 am

I cant wait until we get the breakdown on how overrated shanny is after we win our next superbowl with rg3 :-)

it will undoubtedly be because of horrible competition...

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:38 am

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:10 pm

Im not going to worry about the DFTT thing anymore ....its just stupid . If you let some retarted browns fan get to you then that's your problem anyway. Anyone with half a brain knows Gibbs isnt overrated. A man with 4 superbowl trips . In the hall of Fame, with players under him in the hall of fame. What the hell has the Dog pound done....nothing at all. Im mean nothing at all but lose :wink:

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:05 pm

Hooligan wrote:I think a lot of well-meaning members here are missing the point of how trolls and troll posts work.

Tearing holes in the logic of a troll post is like is like picking something out of somebody's garbage and tearing it up in front of them. It means nothing to them, but they are entertained because they got you to pick through their garbage.

Stop picking through the garbage, guys. It's hard to watch.

Me like, me like.........

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:02 pm

Hey poster check this out.

http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38180

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:08 pm

rskin72 wrote:So moderators...instead of expecting the bm's not to reply to any musing from said poster in the hope that he will just fade into the sunset...why not just delete posts and threads from him as it is within the rules for this board?

Because at THN we tolerate anyone who plays by the rules. It doesn't mean that everyone who writes something is worth listening to, but that's life. Censoring is not something we do here.

Why throw temptation our way?

No offense, but most people seem to handle it fine. People can choose how they react to trolling. Clearly most think the best way to address it is by ignoring it. But the kind of micro-manager moderating you're asking for isn't going to happen.

rskin72 · Post by **rskin72** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:28 am

Irn-Bru wrote:
rskin72 wrote:So moderators...instead of expecting the bm's not to reply to any musing from said poster in the hope that he will just fade into the sunset...why not just delete posts and threads from him as it is within the rules for this board?

Because at THN we tolerate anyone who plays by the rules. It doesn't mean that everyone who writes something is worth listening to, but that's life. Censoring is not something we do here.

Why throw temptation our way?

No offense, but most people seem to handle it fine. People can choose how they react to trolling. Clearly most think the best way to address it is by ignoring it. But the kind of micro-manager moderating you're asking for isn't going to happen.

No offense taken. And i wasn't asking for micromanagement......but board rule 7 gives the moderators carte blanche to do whatever they want with any thread on their website at any time for any reason....i wouldn't say it was micromanaging or censoring.....rather look at it as disposing of the non-Redskin supportive garbage.

ATX_Skins · Post by **ATX_Skins** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:47 am

Ok stop... let's let this thread die now.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:31 am

ATX_Skins wrote:Ok stop... let's let this thread die now.

Which thread? This thread?

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:08 pm

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:25 pm

rskin72 wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
rskin72 wrote:So moderators...instead of expecting the bm's not to reply to any musing from said poster in the hope that he will just fade into the sunset...why not just delete posts and threads from him as it is within the rules for this board?

Because at THN we tolerate anyone who plays by the rules. It doesn't mean that everyone who writes something is worth listening to, but that's life. Censoring is not something we do here.

Why throw temptation our way?

No offense, but most people seem to handle it fine. People can choose how they react to trolling. Clearly most think the best way to address it is by ignoring it. But the kind of micro-manager moderating you're asking for isn't going to happen.

No offense taken. And i wasn't asking for micromanagement......but board rule 7 gives the moderators carte blanche to do whatever they want with any thread on their website at any time for any reason....i wouldn't say it was micromanaging or censoring.....rather look at it as disposing of the non-Redskin supportive garbage.

If you have a strong need for that kind of moderating, there are several sites that other members can recommend... it's not happening here.

The second mods start playing that... the site is no longer friendly to free discourse.

SouthLondonRedskin · Post by **SouthLondonRedskin** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:58 pm

I thought we were killing this thread.....???

.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:12 pm

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:I thought we were killing this thread.....???

.

Which thread? This thread?

SouthLondonRedskin · Post by **SouthLondonRedskin** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:51 am

Yeah, this one.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:55 pm

Good. Just so we're clear. 'Cause I'd hate it if you were talking about that other thread.