Cooley, Moss battling to keep jobs with Redskins

Talk about the Washington Football Team here. Do you bleed burgundy and gold?
Post Reply
User avatar
1niksder
**********
**********
Posts: 16741
youtube meble na wymiar Warszawa
Joined: Sat Mar 27, 2004 2:45 pm
Location: If I knew ... it would explain a lot but I've seen Homerville on a map, that wasn't helpful at all
Contact:

Cooley, Moss battling to keep jobs with Redskins

Post by 1niksder »

Cooley, Moss battling to keep jobs with Redskins



Ashburn, Va. (AP) — Tight end Chris Cooley and Santana Moss are probably fighting for more than just their starting jobs with the Washington Redskins— they're possibly battling for roster spots.

Cooley missed all of last summer's work following knee surgery and had just eight catches, 65 yards and no touchdowns in five games.

The 33-year-old Moss got off to a strong start, but his performance dropped off markedly once he returned from a four-game absence with a broken hand. He finished with just 46 catches, 585 yards and four touchdowns.

Cooley, who turns 30 on July 11, understands the task ahead of him.

"I have a big challenge ahead of me in proving that I'm the player I think I can be and I'm still the player that I was," Cooley said. "I feel even if I'm not the guy . I'll still be a major factor on this team."

Fred Davis supplanted Cooley as Washington's No. 1 tight end with a strong 2011 season while the Redskins gave free agent receivers Pierre Garcon and Josh Morgan $28.5 million guaranteed in March.

Both Moss and Cooley have dropped about 15 pounds each in an attempt to get quicker, but there are still financial concerns clouding their situations.

Cooley ($3.8 million) and Moss ($2.65 million) cost the Redskins $6.45 million in base salary. The franchise was penalized $18 million on its 2012 cap by the NFL for frontloading contracts during the uncapped 2010 season.

They have been well worth their salaries since Cooley became a fulltime Redskins regular in 2005 — the same year Moss arrived in Washington.

Other than 2009 when Cooley missed the final nine games with a broken leg, he and Moss were Washington's top pass-catchers every year for six straight seasons. They are one of the Redskins' top receiving duos in franchise history — behind the tandem of Hall of Famer Art Monk and Gary Clark.

But that seems like a long time ago.

During coach Mike Shanahan's first press conference since the end of last season on April 25 first press conference he praised the new receivers and Leonard Hankerson, a promising 2011 rookie, while not mentioning Moss.

Despite all the indicators, Cooley and Moss say they aren't worried about their roles with the team.

Cooley had a Redskins tight end record 428 catches while Moss' 485 catches for Washington rank him behind only Monk, Clark and Hall of Famer Charley Taylor.

That said, while Shanahan has liked what he has seen from both players this spring, he has used the word "hopefully" when discussing the futures of Moss and Cooley — who combined to catch 170 passes for 1,964 yards and nine touchdowns during the coach's Washington debut in 2010.

"I don't play worried about something," said Moss, who burned ace cornerback DeAngelo Hall for a long touchdown catch from rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III during Tuesday's minicamp practice. "You're going to get guys coming in year after year from college, from other teams, and when you have guys that played on the level (that Garcon and Morgan) played on, teams are going to want them.

"All that can do for you is to motivate you to be on that same level."
..__..
{o,o}
|)__)
-"-"-

When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hold on....

If the world didn't suck we'd all fall off
SkinsJock
08 Champ
08 Champ
Posts: 18385
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:23 pm
Location: New England

Post by SkinsJock »

thanks 1niksder

this confirms the reports that the roster will be made up with players that have earned their spots here and now

this franchise is about what you will contribute to the success of your team in the future not what you did last year or before

competing for roster spots - gotta love it

hopefully Santana and Chris are a part of this going forward as it's only going to get better here

I think Santana's in and I think Cooley's still got something left and a lot of desire to be here
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
User avatar
riggofan
HereComesTheDiesel
HereComesTheDiesel
Posts: 9460
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Montclair, Virginia

Post by riggofan »

I agree with what you're saying, SJ. But salary seems to be playing a big part here too. It kind of sounds like not only do Moss/Cooley have to earn their spots, but they may have to be playing MUCH better than the younger, less expensive guys.

Do you agree?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"You can't do epic **** with basic people." - DJax
"We're on the rise, man, whether you're on the train or not." - Josh Norman
SkinsJock
08 Champ
08 Champ
Posts: 18385
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:23 pm
Location: New England

Post by SkinsJock »

1niksder would have a better handle on this than I do

this season - Moss & Cooley will be on the roster if they show they're going to be able to contribute - both seem to be preparing to fight to win roster spots

I doubt that their salaries are a factor for this season

IMO - Moss will have a really good year - Cooley will always find a way to be a clutch player - I think Davis will be the best TE
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
User avatar
rskin72
Hog
Posts: 359
Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:56 pm

Post by rskin72 »

SkinsJock wrote:thanks 1niksder

this confirms the reports that the roster will be made up with players that have earned their spots here and now

this franchise is about what you will contribute to the success of your team in the future not what you did last year or before

competing for roster spots - gotta love it

hopefully Santana and Chris are a part of this going forward as it's only going to get better here

I think Santana's in and I think Cooley's still got something left and a lot of desire to be here


SJ....concur with your thoughts on Moss...I have always thought Moss would be a WR on this years team. Cooley....that could be a bit different depending on his recovery from injury.

I would imagine that both would be on the roster this season UNLESS the salary cap issue comes into play....and who knows, they may try to restructure contracts to buy some time there.
A winning effort begins with preparation.
Failures are expected by losers, ignored by winners.

Quotes by Joe Gibbs
SkinsJock
08 Champ
08 Champ
Posts: 18385
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:23 pm
Location: New England

Post by SkinsJock »

rskin - I agree - If I had to, I'd say that Moss is almost certainly here and Cooley has a good shot at making the roster

Cooley has a lot of desire but it's going to come down to his ability to show that he's fully recovered
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
cowboykillerzRGiii
CKRGiii
CKRGiii
Posts: 7010
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:56 pm
Location: 505 New Mexico repn

Post by cowboykillerzRGiii »

Restructure both with bonus options for playing.every game and performing to a certain level or higher. Neither are "done" and both are not just vets, but Redskin vets, who bleed B&G. The locker room contributions and grooming of new faces has to be taken into account. Another year.like last year though, and restructuring of their contracts probably won't even save them.
That said they are staples in redskins recent history, I own jerseys of both as do ky son and wife, so I'd be extremely sad to see them go or under perform.
#21 forever in our hearts
“I wanted to just… put his lights out ….because, you know, …Dallas sucks…” - Dexter Manley
User avatar
riggofan
HereComesTheDiesel
HereComesTheDiesel
Posts: 9460
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Montclair, Virginia

Post by riggofan »

cowboykillerzRED wrote:Restructure both with bonus options for playing.every game and performing to a certain level or higher. Neither are "done" and both are not just vets, but Redskin vets, who bleed B&G.


I agree with what you're saying, kind of surprised the restructuring hasn't happened yet. Unless both these guys have REALLY fallen off and just can't get it done, I would hope they'll be back.
User avatar
ICEMAN
piggie
Posts: 187
Joined: Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:01 pm
Location: Wash, DC

Post by ICEMAN »

These two are my absolute favorite! They are true Redskins and will be here...without a doubt!
Chris Luva Luva
---
---
Posts: 18887
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:55 pm
Location: AJT
Contact:

Post by Chris Luva Luva »

After rewatching games 1 and 2, Cooley still has a lot to offer this team and more importntly , a rookie QB.
The road to the number 1 pick gaining speed!
Jak101
newbie
Posts: 12
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:16 pm

Post by Jak101 »

It seems like even the professionals can't say whether or not Cooley will play, but I still thought this offered a pretty good summary: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/ ... kins-notes
User avatar
Red_One43
Hog
Posts: 4609
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:31 pm
Location: D.C.

Post by Red_One43 »

Jak101 wrote:It seems like even the professionals can't say whether or not Cooley will play, but I still thought this offered a pretty good summary: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/ ... kins-notes


Thanks for the post. I agree with Graz's summary of Cooley's situation.
welch
Skins History Buff
Skins History Buff
Posts: 6000
Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:36 pm
Location: New York, NY

Post by welch »

Just pause and think back to Moss and Cooley's first year with the team. Seems forever.

Yes, I get sentimentsal about some players. I hope these two make it.
User avatar
rick301
Hog
Posts: 655
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:10 am
Location: Columbia, MD

Post by rick301 »

I believe Santana will be just fine and on the roster. He's still fast, runs great routs and has veteran savy. A rookie QB needs that - a receiver who can compensate when things break down.

I'd like to see Cooley on the roster. You gotta love his spirit and passion for the skins and the game. It depends on how well he has recovered from his knee injury.

I'm not totally sold on Davis. Yes, he's very talented (but not as good as Cooley blocking) but he is close to a lengthy suspension if he fails another urine analysis.

I want to see a healthy Cooley, along with Davis and Moss on the field together as weapons for RG III. That will present all types of headaches for defenses!
langleyparkjoe
**LPJ**
**LPJ**
Posts: 6714
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:12 am
Location: Langley Park, MD *Tick Tock*
Contact:

Post by langleyparkjoe »

welch wrote:Yes, I get sentimentsal about some players. I hope these two make it.


:!:

Right with you bro!
Hog Bowl Champions
'09 & '17 langleyparkjoe, '10 Cappster, '11 & '13 DarthMonk,
'12 Deadskins, '14 PickSixerTWSS, '15 APEX PREDATOR, '16 vwoodzpusha
cowboykillerzRGiii
CKRGiii
CKRGiii
Posts: 7010
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:56 pm
Location: 505 New Mexico repn

Post by cowboykillerzRGiii »

Gotta throw out a..... YUP to that one! Cooooooooo and tana are amount the last true skins remaining. +Fletcher +Orakpo +?
#21 forever in our hearts
“I wanted to just… put his lights out ….because, you know, …Dallas sucks…” - Dexter Manley
cowboykillerzRGiii
CKRGiii
CKRGiii
Posts: 7010
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:56 pm
Location: 505 New Mexico repn

Post by cowboykillerzRGiii »

Don't say omg or reed... Or u need to hang up on yourself
#21 forever in our hearts
“I wanted to just… put his lights out ….because, you know, …Dallas sucks…” - Dexter Manley
Post Reply