Red_One43 wrote:I don't see the overall quote of this GM as a put down of ey. Just an honest assessment of ey from an opposing longtime GM, who has to be careful how he says things. There is more than enough positives in his statement to say tha tCooley is respected around the league.
I can agree with that, though I'm not sure it's an opposing GM. I get the feeling it's Casserly for some reason.
Casserly came to my mind first as well. Keim didn't say former GM and didn't name the GM so I assume he is still current. Also, Casserly is not shy about commenting publicly about Redskin players.
Here’s what one longtime general manager said he would do with tight end Chris ey, “He’s a glue guy, not a go-to guy. He’s a guy the quarterback gets comfortable with, and he’s an easy pitch-and-catch guy and a sure guy. But he’s not special. I don’t pay a guy like that much. Right now he’s a $3 million a year guy. I’d want him. This quarterback needs every weapon he can count on, and he’ll be a favorite target because he’s so dependable. So he does have value [to Washington], but there’s no market place for those guys. It’s just more based on what he brings intangibly to the offense. He’s always in the right place. If he’s healthy, you like him. He never was fast. He never was a great blocker. He had really good hands, and he knew how to run good routes, and he has great instincts. You think more in terms of clutch. … But because of the offense they want to run, I don’t know if he’s a fit anymore.”
I saw this as very realistic and, overall, positive. I think he's saying that, much like Fletch, Chris is worth more to us than he is to anyone else - if healthy. He'd probably fetch little or nothing in a trade and meanwhile, if Chris is healthy, he can do a lot for us - probably more than he could do for anyone else.
He IS at risk.
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Agreed. I think that it is good to hear from outsiders about our players if they are realistic about the players.
This comes from Bleacher Report which is similar to the old GM:
Cooley is a borderline elite tight end when healthy, as he’s been to two Pro Bowls in eight years with the Washington Redskins. He’s topped 700 yards five times, most recently tying a career-high with 849 in 2010. He totaled just eight catches in limited action in ’11 before the injury shut him down.
ey isn’t the best of blockers, and his recent injuries and age (30 this coming summer) have slowed him down a bit, but he still has several more years to give the Redskins.
As far as blocking here is what profootballfocus.com has to say about ey:
At least second place (in the bottom 15) Chris ey wasn’t kept in all that much in comparison. He still gave up far too much pressure, but there was a degree of damage limitation with the Redskin.
This makes the GM's comment that ey is not a great blocker, a compliment.
From 2008-2010, ey ranks number nine in the top 10 in TE drop percentage.
Comparison: Fred Davis ranks number 34 in the top TE drop percentage which places him in the bottom 10 in TE drops.
So then we come to the must improves. Over the last three years, no one has dropped a higher percentage of passes than Fred Davis, which helps to explain why he hasn’t been able to push on and claim more playing time. A stark contrast to his Redskin teammate Chris ey, who finished ninth. Instead he is joined at the bottom by serial dropper, Brandon Pettigrew, and recently cut Daniel Graham.
Red_One43 wrote:From 2008-2010, ey ranks number nine in the top 10 in TE drop percentage.
Comparison: Fred Davis ranks number 34 in the top TE drop percentage which places him in the bottom 10 in TE drops.
So then we come to the must improves. Over the last three years, no one has dropped a higher percentage of passes than Fred Davis, which helps to explain why he hasn’t been able to push on and claim more playing time. A stark contrast to his Redskin teammate Chris ey, who finished ninth. Instead he is joined at the bottom by serial dropper, Brandon Pettigrew, and recently cut Daniel Graham.
Red_One43 wrote:From 2008-2010, ey ranks number nine in the top 10 in TE drop percentage.
Comparison: Fred Davis ranks number 34 in the top TE drop percentage which places him in the bottom 10 in TE drops.
So then we come to the must improves. Over the last three years, no one has dropped a higher percentage of passes than Fred Davis, which helps to explain why he hasn’t been able to push on and claim more playing time. A stark contrast to his Redskin teammate Chris ey, who finished ninth. Instead he is joined at the bottom by serial dropper, Brandon Pettigrew, and recently cut Daniel Graham.
. I’ve always thought the odds that Chris ey would make the roster this season were a little over 50 percent. Some days I’d go as high as 60; other days it drops. The knee survived the spring, but the groin and hamstring suffered tweaks. It’s all related and it bears significant watching over the next few weeks. And I do think if healthy he can still help. A big threat? Those days are done, especially in an offense that wants more explosive plays. But a good backup? Sure — again, if healthy. ey was pretty adamant the first day of camp that he’s fine and hasn’t had any problems with his knee nor spent time in the trainer’s room. “I’ve had no issues,” ey said.
Not everyone thinks the odds for ey to make the roster should be that high. I talked to an NFL scout and a coach, both of whom have studied the Redskins quite often in recent years, and their take was a little different on his chances this season (also note that one longtime general manager said earlier in the spring he’d still keep him). Here’s what one of them said about ey:
“I think ey’s done. Age and poor training caught up to him three years ago, but it’s not just poor conditioning. Once the tread on your tires go, you can’t put it back on. How many times do we see a guy who appears old one season and then young the next? Once the slide starts it never ends. Age is one thing, but age and injury is a slippery slope. It’s been that way for a couple years. … He can’t evade anything anymore and his body has to work so hard to move. That’s why you get a groin and a hamstring and a tricep and a shoulder. It would be a PR nightmare for them to cut ey. But if he makes it, it’ll be by default. … He’s a guy who doesn’t play special teams and might be third string and is making three million. He’s there for one reason and that’s insurance.”
As in, if Fred Davis can’t stay clean.
I am not hearing anything about ey from camp except that he is doing fine healthwise which is good news on one hand.
—It just looks odd to see Chris ey working with the second team. He was the starter in from 2005-2010 and didn’t practice much at all last year due to his ailing knee. I think he makes it but it’s not a sure thing.
—A few times in the span of several plays, Cooley was able to find a soft spot in the defense, turn around, and catch a pass for about five or seven yards. You get the feeling he could do this all of the time but it that worth a salary of $3.8 million for the year?
—It just looks odd to see Chris ey working with the second team. He was the starter in from 2005-2010 and didn’t practice much at all last year due to his ailing knee. I think he makes it but it’s not a sure thing.
—A few times in the span of several plays, Cooley was able to find a soft spot in the defense, turn around, and catch a pass for about five or seven yards. You get the feeling he could do this all of the time but it that worth a salary of $3.8 million for the year?
That was a good read , i liked the part about garcon catching deep bombs from Rg3 and i hope we see a lot of that this season. ey needs to start impressing in camp . I'm pulling for 47 to come back, but if he is not the same 47 then it might not be good.
—A few times in the span of several plays, Cooley was able to find a soft spot in the defense, turn around, and catch a pass for about five or seven yards. You get the feeling he could do this all of the time but it that worth a salary of $3.8 million for the year?
Yes, yes it is! A reliable five to seven yards is invaluable.
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—A few times in the span of several plays, Cooley was able to find a soft spot in the defense, turn around, and catch a pass for about five or seven yards. You get the feeling he could do this all of the time but it that worth a salary of $3.8 million for the year?
Yes, yes it is! A reliable five to seven yards is invaluable.
Especially, since he usually breaks a tackle and picks up 11 yards out at leat that is what his career average is. Heck the he is usually good for a first down every other catch. I think a guy that will get you 75 catches and 700 plus yards is with about 40 first downs is worth $3.8M.
I know purple will say there is no way ey puts up those numbers, but I would say they have no proof that he won't. No indication that he won't. If Coley plays most of the season he WILL put up those numbers! Why? Because that is what he does! Until he doesn't, that is what we should expect from him and I believe that is what the Shannys expect from him, because they have no reason not too.
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Poster - you understand that SB Nation has most of it's writers as fan's of a particular team. It allows them to moonlight as journalists. GM's talk to other GMs on a daily basis. That's gathering information. Finding out who's available who you have available, etc. What makes you think that the Skins arn't thinking about trading Royster since we got Hightower back, have Helu and drafed the kid this past year? We got Royster in the 6th or 7th round, get a 5th for him and we're all golden.
frankcal20 wrote:. What makes you think that the Skins arn't thinking about trading Royster since we got Hightower back, have Helu and drafed the kid this pa
what makes u think that you know what I'm thinking?
frankcal20 wrote:. What makes you think that the Skins arn't thinking about trading Royster since we got Hightower back, have Helu and drafed the kid this pa
what makes u think that you know what I'm thinking?
easy.....
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frankcal20 wrote:. What makes you think that the Skins arn't thinking about trading Royster since we got Hightower back, have Helu and drafed the kid this pa
what makes u think that you know what I'm thinking?
There isn't ANY report from either said that is valid about CC.. just that we are talking with them, like we do almost every year.
Not that it.matters but many people can be in those conversations, I'm hoping its AAA, with Bay having issues and us acquiring Garçon, his role will be slim to none here.
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cowboykillerzRED wrote:There isn't ANY report from either said that is valid about CC.. just that we are talking with them, like we do almost every year. Not that it.matters but many people can be in those conversations, I'm hoping its AAA, with Bay having issues and us acquiring Garçon, his role will be slim to none here.
I heard the rumor from a Oakland reporter early yesterday and it gained steam from there. I asked him about the status of the rumor this morning and he said it's not going to happen, but didn't know why.
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ey. Just an honest assessment of
