Where can RGIII improve?

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Thu May 10, 2012 10:39 am

The Kolb comparison could work...if someone did their homework. Both QBs started 3 years. Both had very good 3rd years starting, though RG3's was far better. Where it differs is that Kolb had a distinctly mediocre year in his second year starting (60.5% completion, 19 TDs, 15 INTs), whereas RG3's second year starting was excellent (67% completion, 22 TDs, 8 INTs).

Not comparable. But again, intellectual dishonesty is the hallmark of certain posters on this board, so I shouldn't be surprised there.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Thu May 10, 2012 10:41 am

^ +1...

intellectual dishonesty works for some...

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Thu May 10, 2012 10:53 am

Countertrey wrote:You must learn to ignore the evil voices that speak the language of ethanol...

Voices speaking the language of ethanol, agreed.

The smooth and powerful beauty that is Bookers?

-drinking

Mississippiskinsfan2 · Thu May 10, 2012 11:20 am

Not sure what Kevin Kolb has anything to do with "Where can RGIII improve?" or is that no longer the topic?

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Thu May 10, 2012 11:38 am

Mississippiskinsfan2 wrote:Not sure what Kevin Kolb has anything to do with "Where can RGIII improve?" or is that no longer the topic?

Apparently RGIII could improve by becoming less tiny. Apparently this would help him avoid concussions and turf toe since he so resembles Kevin Kolb.

DarthMonk

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Thu May 10, 2012 11:40 am

SkinsJock wrote:RGIII is going to be a lot harder to get to

however

when defensive players do get a chance to hit him, you can bet that they will try to make up for that

This is true. I notice you did not mention the FO. :hmm:

DarthMonk

Mississippiskinsfan2 · Thu May 10, 2012 12:17 pm

Matt Flynn, SEA Height: 6-2; Weight: 225
Robert Griffin, WAS Height: 6-2. Weight: 223
Christian Ponder,MIN Height: 6-2; Weight: 229
Kevin Kolb, ARI Height: 6-3 Weight: 218
Josh Freeman, TB Height: 6-6 Weight: 248
Sam Bradford, STL Height : 6 foot 5. Weight : 213
Alex Smith, SF Height: 6-4 Weight: 217
Michael Vick, PHI Height: 6-0; Weight: 215
Jay Cutler, CHI Height: 6-3 Weight: 220
Cam Newton, CAR Height: 6-5 Weight: 248
Matt Ryan, ATL Height: 6-4 Weight: 217
Tony Romo, DAL Height: 6-2 Weight: 228
Matthew Stafford, DET Height: 6-2 Weight:232
Eli Manning, NYG Height: 6-4 Weight: 218
Drew Brees, NO Height: 6-0 Weight: 209
Aaron Rodgers, GB Height: 6-2 Weight: 225

Well it looks like most of the starting QB in the NFC need too then

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Thu May 10, 2012 12:20 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:RGIII is going to be a lot harder to get to

however

when defensive players do get a chance to hit him, you can bet that they will try to make up for that

This is true. I notice you did not mention the FO.

DarthMonk

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Thu May 10, 2012 12:25 pm

Mississippiskinsfan2 wrote:Matt Flynn, SEA Height: 6-2; Weight: 225
Robert Griffin, WAS Height: 6-2. Weight: 223
Christian Ponder,MIN Height: 6-2; Weight: 229
Kevin Kolb, ARI Height: 6-3 Weight: 218
Josh Freeman, TB Height: 6-6 Weight: 248
Sam Bradford, STL Height : 6 foot 5. Weight : 213
Alex Smith, SF Height: 6-4 Weight: 217
Michael Vick, PHI Height: 6-0; Weight: 215
Jay Cutler, CHI Height: 6-3 Weight: 220
Cam Newton, CAR Height: 6-5 Weight: 248
Matt Ryan, ATL Height: 6-4 Weight: 217
Tony Romo, DAL Height: 6-2 Weight: 228
Matthew Stafford, DET Height: 6-2 Weight:232
Eli Manning, NYG Height: 6-4 Weight: 218
Drew Brees, NO Height: 6-0 Weight: 209
Aaron Rodgers, GB Height: 6-2 Weight: 225

Well it looks like most of the starting QB in the NFC need too then

Quit letting facts and numbers get in the way of the real argument: Griffin "looks" tiny, so he must be.

And remember: Griffin is black, and fast. Remind you of anyone? That's right: Michael Vick. And how has his health held up? Hmm?

You Redskins fans are pathetic, blind homers.

Mississippiskinsfan2 · Thu May 10, 2012 2:28 pm

Countertrey wrote:dftt

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Thu May 10, 2012 4:11 pm

Counting to ten... compiling player stats... recalling 4 consecutive letters... you are, indeed, setting precedents this week!

Mississippiskinsfan2 · Thu May 10, 2012 4:27 pm

Countertrey wrote:Counting to ten... compiling player stats... recalling 4 consecutive letters... you are, indeed, setting precedents this week!

Thanks...... I think

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Thu May 10, 2012 5:16 pm

Countertrey wrote:Counting to ten... compiling player stats... recalling 4 consecutive letters... you are, indeed, setting precedents this week!

YO, YO, YO! :thump:

emoses14 wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:But, but, but, the Redskins failed to address positions of need by drafting Cousins!!!!

1. . . 2. . . 3. . . 4 . . .5. . .6. . .7. . . 8. . .9. . .10

Dammit.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Thu May 10, 2012 7:58 pm

Deadskins wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:RGIII is going to be a lot harder to get to

however

when defensive players do get a chance to hit him, you can bet that they will try to make up for that

This is true. I notice you did not mention the FO.

DarthMonk

2 Times

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Thu May 10, 2012 10:36 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:Because he's so elusive, RGIII is going to be a lot harder to get to - however - when defensive players do get a chance to hit him, you can bet that they will try to make up for that

This is true. I notice you did not mention the FO.

I was agonizing over how to put something in there ... :roll:

some things are just understood .... :lol:

I'll change my sig to include the FO ....... :twisted:

the poster · Post by **the poster** » Sun May 13, 2012 7:51 pm

defensive game plans for rg3 are already being discussed and the impressive pressure defenses of the NFC east will put rg3 in an uphill battle.

there's a lot here how a former defensive coordinator discussed a popular method for stopping Michael Vick and will likely applied here. omg, they mentioned Michael Vick in the same sentence, omg they're racists to compare the two. theres nothing similar about Vick and rg3. omg.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1903 ... vice-versa

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Sun May 13, 2012 8:56 pm

Sure am glad we have RGIII to deal with all this extra game planning (wonder what other teams are concerned about :hmm:

) instead of Train Rex.

I'll stick with this:

DarthMonk wrote:He needs to know when to be daring. That's probably not in the 1st qtr. of the 1st game when he can take a risk and give us 2nd and 2 instead of 2nd and 8 near midfield. He might need to be lucky early until he learns when to be daring.

Vick still doesn't know.

DarthMonk

If he can make good decisions in this regard he will last and he will light people up for a long tiime. If he makes bad decisions in this regard he will miss a lot of games.

To cite another post ~ Griff was right in between AR and Vick in propensity to run in college: AR ran on 20% of his drops, Vick 40%, and Griff 30%. AR cut his 20% to 13% and Vick cut his 40% to 20% as pros - still not enough of a cut in Vick's case. I'd like to see Griff cut his 30% to 15%.

DarthMonk

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Sun May 13, 2012 9:42 pm

Fred Davis and Chris cooley if healthy will be Rg3 best friend to answer the pressure.

SouthLondonRedskin · Post by **SouthLondonRedskin** » Mon May 14, 2012 2:50 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
DarthMonk wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:Because he's so elusive, RGIII is going to be a lot harder to get to - however - when defensive players do get a chance to hit him, you can bet that they will try to make up for that

This is true. I notice you did not mention the FO.

I was agonizing over how to put something in there ...

some things are just understood ....

I'll change my sig to include the FO .......

Well played SJ.

I think you and I would call that 'The Forward Defensive'....

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:42 pm

DarthMonk wrote:Sure am glad we have RGIII to deal with all this extra game planning (wonder what other teams are concerned about ) instead of Train Rex.

I'll stick with this:

DarthMonk wrote:He needs to know when to be daring. That's probably not in the 1st qtr. of the 1st game when he can take a risk and give us 2nd and 2 instead of 2nd and 8 near midfield. He might need to be lucky early until he learns when to be daring.

Vick still doesn't know.

DarthMonk

If he can make good decisions in this regard he will last and he will light people up for a long tiime. If he makes bad decisions in this regard he will miss a lot of games.

To cite another post ~ Griff was right in between AR and Vick in propensity to run in college: AR ran on 20% of his drops, Vick 40%, and Griff 30%. AR cut his 20% to 13% and Vick cut his 40% to 20% as pros - still not enough of a cut in Vick's case. I'd like to see Griff cut his 30% to 15%.

DarthMonk

If you just saw Vick get hurt ... well.

We all saw RGIII try to get a few extra yards the other night at the sidelines.

OTOH - if the field were a yard wider he'd've had a long TD scamper later on.

Know when to be daring.

DarthMonk

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:56 am

He can improve by doing less of this. I am a fan of RG3, but I'm getting a little sick of all of the media hype. Love the Adidas Light commercial, the Gatorade Ad, even the Subway one is cool. But, please Bob--don't do stuff like this. Reminds me of Mark Sanchez.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:04 pm

The Hogster wrote:He can improve by doing less of this. I am a fan of RG3, but I'm getting a little sick of all of the media hype. Love the Adidas Light commercial, the Gatorade Ad, even the Subway one is cool. But, please Bob--don't do stuff like this. Reminds me of Mark Sanchez.

I understand where you're coming from. I'll just say that as long as Griffin can back up the hype on the field, then I'm cool with whatever outside media stuff he wants to do.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:05 pm

some here need to understand that for some time now RGIII's focus has been solely on "the game"

ALL of the stuff he did months ago that we are now just seeing was finished and done ages ago

RGIII got all that BS out of the way so he can focus on what he needs to

RGIII needs to just stay the course and with the program he's set for himself

he's a rookie but he's going to show the greatness we all expect - no worries - we got the right guy at QB :wink:

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:03 pm

* Shanny got HIS guy and

THIS FO is managing rgiii and his press time

To give him the BEST chance to succeed!

MS and KS have a PLAN, the SHANNY plan. I know

Because THEY told ME.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:17 pm

cowboykillerzRED wrote:* Shanny got HIS guy and

THIS FO is managing rgiii and his press time

To give him the BEST chance to succeed!

MS and KS have a PLAN, the SHANNY plan. I know because THEY told ME.

Mike & Bruce have ZERO control over RGIII and his agent as far as off the field things are concerned

someone's been having you on - but that should not come as a surprise to you

I'll bet it happens a lot :lol: