I thought we had whipped you hard enough to put your tail between your legs......
I think the poser thinks he will make some of us see the light or something like that. You know because we are all blind and stupid for being redskins fans. He is here to save us
no. you are sheep. I'd they drafted a tin can, you would defend it. ur not stupid for being a redskin fan, youre just incapable of being a man with your own thoughts.
I thought we had whipped you hard enough to put your tail between your legs......
I think the poser thinks he will make some of us see the light or something like that. You know because we are all blind and stupid for being redskins fans. He is here to save us
no. you are sheep. I'd they drafted a tin can, you would defend it. ur not stupid for being a redskin fan, youre just incapable of being a man with your own thoughts.
uh yes they did actually. Is this post not the dumbest thing?
Indy is the one that actually needs a backup....name the qbs on their roster right now without googling?
Plus the colts didn't send 2 future first round picks and a 2nd round pick to get a QB...did they?
You already lost 3 future picks on a guy you want to build your future around...why not sign quality veterans to back him up...why waste the few picks you have left on another qb....when u can fill some holes on your team.
How nobody is saying if andrew luck gets hurt....nobody said that last year about cam newton....but he was stella right?.....You are already thinking injury....what a f'd up mentality we have on this board.
uh yes they did actually. Is this post not the dumbest thing?
Indy is the one that actually needs a backup....name the qbs on their roster right now without googling?
Plus the colts didn't send 2 future first round picks and a 2nd round pick to get a QB...did they?
You already lost 3 future picks on a guy you want to build your future around...why not sign quality veterans to back him up...why waste the few picks you have left on another qb....when u can fill some holes on your team.
How nobody is saying if andrew luck gets hurt....nobody said that last year about cam newton....but he was stella right?.....You are already thinking injury....what a f'd up mentality we have on this board.
Backups are and I didn't google so I'm probably wrong
Drew Stanton
Curtis Painter
The other QB drafted today
Maybe another guy
Yeah you're right, let's not plan for the event of our QB going down while developing trade bait. I think that strategy is called the 2011 Colts.
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uh yes they did actually. Is this post not the dumbest thing?
Indy is the one that actually needs a backup....name the qbs on their roster right now without googling?
Plus the colts didn't send 2 future first round picks and a 2nd round pick to get a QB...did they?
You already lost 3 future picks on a guy you want to build your future around...why not sign quality veterans to back him up...why waste the few picks you have left on another qb....when u can fill some holes on your team.
How nobody is saying if andrew luck gets hurt....nobody said that last year about cam newton....but he was stella right?.....You are already thinking injury....what a f'd up mentality we have on this board.
Backups are and I didn't google so I'm probably wrong Drew Stanton Curtis Painter The other QB drafted today Maybe another guy
Yeah you're right, let's not plan for the event of our QB going down while developing trade bait. I think that strategy is called the 2011 Colts.
what I don't understand, is during the lead up to their first 4th round selection, how come ZERO people on this website have any posts saying "boy, I hope they take Kirk cousins with this pick, it would be a smart move."
no one said that. note. you all did mention other players you wanted....only after the pick do you mention it as good .
uh yes they did actually. Is this post not the dumbest thing?
Indy is the one that actually needs a backup....name the qbs on their roster right now without googling?
Plus the colts didn't send 2 future first round picks and a 2nd round pick to get a QB...did they?
You already lost 3 future picks on a guy you want to build your future around...why not sign quality veterans to back him up...why waste the few picks you have left on another qb....when u can fill some holes on your team.
How nobody is saying if andrew luck gets hurt....nobody said that last year about cam newton....but he was stella right?.....You are already thinking injury....what a f'd up mentality we have on this board.
Backups are and I didn't google so I'm probably wrong Drew Stanton Curtis Painter The other QB drafted today Maybe another guy
Yeah you're right, let's not plan for the event of our QB going down while developing trade bait. I think that strategy is called the 2011 Colts.
Only drew stanton is right in your post ....
I don't know why I like to totally school you, but again, you are incorrect. They drafted a QB today, and now that I looked it up, his name is Chandler Harnish and they do have another guy on the squad and his name is Trevor Vittatoe. Be gone please
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funsho2 wrote:You already lost 3 future picks on a guy you want to build your future around...why not sign quality veterans to back him up...why waste the few picks you have left on another qb....when u can fill some holes on your team.
Because quality QBs don't grow on trees. Why not use quality veterans to fill these other holes you speak of, and use the few picks we have left on the highest quality players available?
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
funsho2 wrote:You already lost 3 future picks on a guy you want to build your future around...why not sign quality veterans to back him up...why waste the few picks you have left on another qb....when u can fill some holes on your team.
Because quality QBs don't grow on trees. Why not use quality veterans to fill these other holes you speak of, and use the few picks we have left on the highest quality players available?
It's like shooting fish in a cup with this guy
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the poster wrote:what I don't understand, is during the lead up to their first 4th round selection, how come ZERO people on this website have any posts saying "boy, I hope they take Kirk cousins with this pick, it would be a smart move."
no one said that. note. you all did mention other players you wanted....only after the pick do you mention it as good .
what good sheep you are.
I'm still waiting on you to show me where I defended any of the picks the redskins made.
But here are a few reasons to like Cousins in burgundy and gold:
1.Teams often get into trouble by drafting for need rather than taking the best player on the board. Some scouts thought Cousins was a second-round talent, so this appears to be a value pick in terms of player quality. Kudos to the Redskins scouting department, which has had its share of fumbles in the last decade, for having the courage of its convictions.
2.RGIII likes to run. He will take some hits in the coming years. Why not ensure you have a player you like more than the backups currently on the depth chart ready to go if Griffin is injured? And can Cousins really do much worse than Rex Grossman or John Beck (who was released Saturday) did in 2011?
3.Ideally, it's nice to pair an up-and-coming rookie signal caller with a savvy veteran who already knows the playbook. To that end, Grossman will be around for a year and could help in the tutorial department, though he still fancies himself an NFL starter. The only other available veteran we can think of who has a good working knowledge of the Washington playbook is Matt Leinart, though he seems headed to the Raiders. Why not let Griffin III and Cousins -- who are both lauded for their intelligence, leadership skills, study habits and team-first attitudes -- digest Kyle Shanahan's offense together (with Grossman's help in 2012) before leaning on each other into the future?
4.RGIII is clearly the long-term future and face of this franchise. But Cousins may very well become a reliable backup who potentially flashes starting-caliber skills at some point. If that's the case, perhaps he could be spun off a la Matt Cassel, Kevin Kolb or Matt Schaub for high-end draft picks in the future.
Drafting Cousins was a smart move. It gives them protection against injury. (Sorry John Beck didn't cut it). And if RGIII goes down and Cousins shines, then he would get offers from other teams and the Redskins could trade for some draft picks in the future. Jimmy Johnson did it in '89 w/Aikman and Walsh. Then traded Walsh away for some draft picks. Someone brought up Lynn Dickey and Dan Pastorini. Same thing.
the poster wrote:what I don't understand, is during the lead up to their first 4th round selection, how come ZERO people on this website have any posts saying "boy, I hope they take Kirk cousins with this pick, it would be a smart move."
no one said that. note. you all did mention other players you wanted....only after the pick do you mention it as good .
what good sheep you are.
Quite a few people wanted more than one QB drafted, those same people will still be here when you have stopped trolling.
FYI:We have a excellent search engine on this site, you might try using it before saying what no one here has said.
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I haven't heard anyone or read any posts by anyone who thinks this was just a so-so pick. I don't love the pick, but I get the rationale, and I think it might work out OK. Am I allowed to have such a neutral opinion?
(I don't love Cousins, and I think he's a 4th/5th round talent, not a 2nd/3rd round talent... if I thought more of Cousins, I would think more of this pick.)
FireVinny wrote:Am I required to have an extreme opinion on this?
I haven't heard anyone or read any posts by anyone who thinks this was just a so-so pick. I don't love the pick, but I get the rationale, and I think it might work out OK. Am I allowed to have such a neutral opinion?
Please! There is a troll and one extremely negative opinion, but I have yet to see the other end of the spectrum. Your view is right in line with the vast majority here.
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
JiveTurkee wrote:Drafting Cousins was a smart move. It gives them protection against injury. (Sorry John Beck didn't cut it). And if RGIII goes down and Cousins shines, then he would get offers from other teams and the Redskins could trade for some draft picks in the future. Jimmy Johnson did it in '89 w/Aikman and Walsh. Then traded Walsh away for some draft picks. Someone brought up Lynn Dickey and Dan Pastorini. Same thing.
The question is how come we didn't hear this with carolina when they drafted newton...knowing he can run too....they freaking had jimmy clausen as his backup for God sake ....how come we don't hear about this with andrew luck....Its like you guys are foreseeing Rg3 going down ,...i mean wtf...the rationale doesn't make any sense...with the amount of QBs redskins have had over the years i am sure we could have found a good insurance policy QB to be a backup.....It is not a priority that is my point and you guys keep defending the pick.
JiveTurkee wrote:Drafting Cousins was a smart move. It gives them protection against injury. (Sorry John Beck didn't cut it). And if RGIII goes down and Cousins shines, then he would get offers from other teams and the Redskins could trade for some draft picks in the future. Jimmy Johnson did it in '89 w/Aikman and Walsh. Then traded Walsh away for some draft picks. Someone brought up Lynn Dickey and Dan Pastorini. Same thing.
The question is how come we didn't hear this with carolina when they drafted newton...knowing he can run too....they freaking had jimmy clausen as his backup for God sake ....how come we don't hear about this with andrew luck....Its like you guys are foreseeing Rg3 going down ,...i mean wtf...the rationale doesn't make any sense...with the amount of QBs redskins have had over the years i am sure we could have found a good insurance policy QB to be a backup.....It is not a priority that is my point and you guys keep defending the pick.
Last year Grossman was benched just long enough for people to want to see Grossman under center.
Everyone yells about holes that needed to be filled, look at the whole picture. Not only did the Redskins need a starting QB they needed a backup too. They got them both in the same draft.
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In the 1989 supplemental draft the Cowboys drafted Steve Walsh. They used a number 1 overall pick to do it when they had already drafted future HOF'er Troy Aikman. This never bothered Aikman and look where he is now.
JiveTurkee wrote:Drafting Cousins was a smart move. It gives them protection against injury. (Sorry John Beck didn't cut it). And if RGIII goes down and Cousins shines, then he would get offers from other teams and the Redskins could trade for some draft picks in the future. Jimmy Johnson did it in '89 w/Aikman and Walsh. Then traded Walsh away for some draft picks. Someone brought up Lynn Dickey and Dan Pastorini. Same thing.
The question is how come we didn't hear this with carolina when they drafted newton...knowing he can run too....they freaking had jimmy clausen as his backup for God sake ....how come we don't hear about this with andrew luck....Its like you guys are foreseeing Rg3 going down ,...i mean wtf...the rationale doesn't make any sense...with the amount of QBs redskins have had over the years i am sure we could have found a good insurance policy QB to be a backup.....It is not a priority that is my point and you guys keep defending the pick.
Did you read my response earlier? You draft players when they are available. You can fill your holes with the FAs. Why do you think it has to be the other way around?
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
Shanahan had a chance to snatch up a QB he probably had a second or late first round grade on. Cousins is accurate and smart in the pocket... but more importantly: he's a leader.
He was a leader for the Spartans and that's what we need on the Redskins. A backup QB who will keep the team in line, and practice every day and prepare himself to start every week... even though he'll be on the bench.
If Cousins pans out, we can even trade him like Cassel or Shaub or one of the many backups who teams traded for 1st or 2nd round picks.
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I was hoping we would select another QB. I was pulling for Russell Wilson, just didn't make it to the later rounds. Cousins will give us some depth and competition for the number two spot. God knows we need it. If he doesn't make it he can sit a year on the practice squad. Grossman's days are running out.
The topic of the post asks a simple question and the answer is just as simple:
Because we needed one more.
Simple as that. We had RGIII, RG3INT, and no future backup to take over for RG3Int.
Look I'm sure Mike and Kyle really didn't want to bring Rex back this year, but he based the most sense to back up RGIII this year. Drafting James Tuberous Kirk was an investment in the future, a Rex-less future!
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uh yes they did actually. Is this post not the dumbest thing?
Yes, yes they did.
