Redskins draft picks.

CanesSkins26 · Post by **CanesSkins26** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:49 pm

A running back???

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:51 pm

Wes Bunting, National Football Post on Alfred Morris, RB

He possesses a decent sized frame, though he isn't overly girthy through the lower half, but he runs low, keeps his pad level down and, despite his lacking straight-line speed, presses the hole with average initial burst. He's an instinctive running back with a natural feel between the tackles who displays good balance and footwork inside, exhibiting the shiftiness and fluidity to pick his way through traffic laterally, make defenders miss in tight areas and create on his own. Morris plays faster in tighter areas, is more quick than fast and can generate a burst out of his breaks. He reaches top end speed quickly but doesn't have the ability to really accelerate away from anyone into the second level. He looks like a 4.65-plus guy who has a tough time even running away from linebackers toward the edge. He lacks any kind of a second gear and, once he gets past his first step, he stops pressing the hole or picking his way through traffic, is a very uninspiring athlete.

He runs with a low pad level, exhibits quick feet and breaks a lot of tackles in the Sun Belt conference. He also does a great job finishing runs at the second level, lowering his pad level into contact and pumping his legs through the play. However, he struggles to make anyone miss at the second level against better competition and he isn't dynamic enough laterally to gain a step and outpace an angle. He doesn't break nearly as many tackles vs. BCS caliber defenders and goes down much easier on contact. Morris will catch the football out of the backfield, snap his head around quickly and initially create, but he isn't any kind of a big play threat. He looks natural running from both the gun and I-formation sets, but his lack of initial burst shows up far more in the gun.

Impression: Morris simply lacks the type of physical attributes needed in order to warrant much attention at the next level. Looks like a limited free agent at best.

the poster · Post by **the poster** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:52 pm

another tiny rb drafted. draft grade from round 3 on so far: D

skins still have a subpar defensive line with an undersized, out of position NT, and mediocre defensive ends and a Flat out bad secondary. good luck with deangelo hall again.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:52 pm

Morris is a thick running back out of Florida Atlantic who was productive throughout his career as a featured back. Morris is a bit of a tweener -- not big enough to be a physically imposing back in the NFL, but far from fast or athletic enough to impress with his athleticism. He is a serviceable runner who at best could carry a load like BenJarvus Green-Ellis of New England, but he will have to prove he has the speed and athleticism to deserve a shot. He carries late-round or free-agent value.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:55 pm

Sounds like another ZBS back in the mode of Royster.

I am scratching my head on this one. Seems like a 7th rounder at best. Can someone spin this one to help us see Morris as a good pick?

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:57 pm

the poster wrote:another tiny rb drafted. draft grade from round 3 on so far: D

skins still have a subpar defensive line with an undersized, out of position NT, and mediocre defensive ends and a Flat out bad secondary. good luck with deangelo hall again.

What are you stupid?

We got the best new defensive lineman that will hit the field this season...

And we got him in the second round

FanofallthatisGibbs · Post by **FanofallthatisGibbs** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:58 pm

I'd rather keep Hightower, but this is a pick where I feel like the pending cap issue is influencing the decision.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:00 pm

FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:I'd rather keep Hightower, but this is a pick where I feel like the pending cap issue is influencing the decision.

The pick AZ just used to take Justin Bethel was the one they got (with Vonnie Holliday) from the Redskins for Tim Hightower

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:02 pm

1 more pick in 6th Round, 2 more in 7th Round, then all those UDFAs

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:09 pm

You best believe that we will load up on UDFA's. Based on the playing time they received last year, that'll be a selling point to a lot of these guys.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:10 pm

frankcal20 wrote:You best believe that we will load up on UDFA's. Based on the playing time they received last year, that'll be a selling point to a lot of these guys.

+1

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:12 pm

FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:I'd rather keep Hightower, but this is a pick where I feel like the pending cap issue is influencing the decision.

Morris is on the practice squad all over him. Hightower, a solid blitz pick up guy? Most likely he will be signed.

RayNAustin · Post by **RayNAustin** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:12 pm

Red_One43 wrote:
Redskin in Canada wrote:Kirk Cousins at this point when we have so many needs at other positions???
What gives???

This is not right no matter what spin anybody puts in it.

Crazy

I think OTA's and and mini camps just got more exciting - RGIII is safe. Kirk Cousins is safe, but I don't think Rex is safe and I don't think that Beck is the odd man out. Rex has proven that he won't change, but Beck has only been given limited time to improve.

We all watched T.J. Yates play welll enough as a rookie in this offense to get the Texans to the play-offs, why can't Cousins do the same if need be (and hopefully it won't need be).

Day 1 QB depth = RGIII, Beck and Cousins.

How about that spin, RiC?

Better think again, Beck has been released.

And that's the wise move. Beck was miserable ... awful really ... he had the express lane to start, got beat out by Rex ... Rex pulls a Rex and get's himself pulled ... Beck comes in and makes Rex look good, and get's the hook. Bye-Bye.

Cousins is a solid pick for a developmental guy, and might end up being trade bait to get one of those #1 picks back that we traded to the Rams over the next couple of years.

The kid was a good value pick at that spot ... and who knows ... God forbid ... if RG3 gets tweaked .... he might be needed at some point.

Good pick for depth at the most critical position on the field.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:18 pm

Beck has more fumbles than TD's. He has small hands and is prone to sacks (holds on to the ball too long). Over thinks the play trying to be perfect b/c he feels that his chance to gain the position will be limited. He's correct b/c he blows every opportunity he received.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:22 pm

RayNAustin wrote:
Red_One43 wrote:
Redskin in Canada wrote:Kirk Cousins at this point when we have so many needs at other positions???
What gives???

This is not right no matter what spin anybody puts in it.

Crazy

I think OTA's and and mini camps just got more exciting - RGIII is safe. Kirk Cousins is safe, but I don't think Rex is safe and I don't think that Beck is the odd man out. Rex has proven that he won't change, but Beck has only been given limited time to improve.

We all watched T.J. Yates play welll enough as a rookie in this offense to get the Texans to the play-offs, why can't Cousins do the same if need be (and hopefully it won't need be).

Day 1 QB depth = RGIII, Beck and Cousins.

How about that spin, RiC?

Better think again, Beck has been released.

And that's the wise move. Beck was miserable ... awful really ... he had the express lane to start, got beat out by Rex ... Rex pulls a Rex and get's himself pulled ... Beck comes in and makes Rex look good, and get's the hook. Bye-Bye.

Cousins is a solid pick for a developmental guy, and might end up being trade bait to get one of those #1 picks back that we traded to the Rams over the next couple of years.

The kid was a good value pick at that spot ... and who knows ... God forbid ... if RG3 gets tweaked .... he might be needed at some point.

Good pick for depth at the most critical position on the field.

Thanks - I had a crow sandwich for lunch. Good thing I didn't stake my reputation on it. :wink:

I agree that he was a good pick with a 4th rounder.

the poster · Post by **the poster** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:26 pm

they've cemented another last place finish once again. five years in a row!

the colts drafted their Andrew luck. you know what they didn't do? draft Kirk cousins.

last year, Carolina drafted cam newton. you know what they didn't do? draft another qb a couple rounds later.

when the steelers, chargers and giants drafted rothlesburger, rivers, and manning....you know what none of them did? draft another qb.

when Washington spent 4 draft picks on their "savior" you know what they did? they provided a spark to their own potential future house fire by drafting another qb a couple of rounds later while again ignoring major deficiencies scattered all throughout the roster. it's another terrible job, I'd give their draft a D or F at this point and probably will be the turning point in getting shanahan fired as they'll clearly be in last place again.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:28 pm

It's not going to be a problem. Both guys are going to learn the offense and then if RG3 get's hurt, we'll have a young, athletic, smart QB on the field.

SouthLondonRedskin · Post by **SouthLondonRedskin** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:33 pm

Red_One43 wrote:There's our RB!

Oh, he HAD to bring in an RB didn't he....!?!??

Again, a wasted pick in my opinion.

Helu, Royster and Hightower (yes, I know he's not signed yet but he will, cos we need some experience back there rather than rely on rookies and guys that have 5 games under their belt...)

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:33 pm

Yet some people are just to stupid to realize John Beck is terrible and just needed replacing. Must bash Shanny cause I'm piggie the troll.

the poster · Post by **the poster** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:38 pm

cousins surprised to be drafted by Washington, which of course is simply the nice, pc way of saying he's disappointed to having his career now relying on another persons injury.

this won't make rg3 as happy as, oh I dunno, getting him HELP, this simply just upsets the qb they did draft in the 4th round, and as kipper said, they already have a qb controversy....meanwhile their roster continues to be terrible.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... -backup-qb

FanofallthatisGibbs · Post by **FanofallthatisGibbs** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:39 pm

Deleted. Emotions got the better of me guys. :oops:

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:41 pm

the poster wrote:they've cemented another last place finish once again. five years in a row!

the colts drafted their Andrew luck. you know what they didn't do? draft Kirk cousins.

I saw that and said damn some teams never learn or the forget real quick.
I remember when the Colts drafted the guy that Luck is replacing... you know what they NEVER did until they drafted Luck? They never drafted a Kirk Cousins type

the poster wrote:last year, Carolina drafted cam newton. you know what they didn't do? draft another qb a couple rounds later.

when the steelers, chargers and giants drafted rothlesburger, rivers, and manning....you know what none of them did? draft another qb.

When those players go down how many of their backups can you name that you'd feel comfortable with finishing the season?

the poster wrote:when Washington spent 4 draft picks on their "savior" you know what they did? they provided a spark to their own potential future house fire by drafting another qb a couple of rounds later while again ignoring major deficiencies scattered all throughout the roster. it's another terrible job, I'd give their draft a D or F at this point and probably will be the turning point in getting shanahan fired as they'll clearly be in last place again.

Actually they're counting on the Browns to be the Browns and giving them a second round pick for Cousins between now and April next year.

Bookmark this page, Click on it next March, and remember why you should troll TH.n :arrow:

SouthLondonRedskin · Post by **SouthLondonRedskin** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:41 pm

Hey FanofallthatisGibbs, just ignore the pr1ck, he's not worthy of the attention.

Red_One43 · Post by **Red_One43** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:42 pm

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:
Red_One43 wrote:There's our RB!

Oh, he HAD to bring in an RB didn't he....!?!??

Again, a wasted pick in my opinion.

Helu, Royster and Hightower (yes, I know he's not signed yet but he will, cos we need some experience back there rather than rely on rookies and guys that have 5 games under their belt...)

You get no argument here. Although, I feel that this guy is perfect for Shanny's system, we already have a slow, make 'em miss guy in Royster.

skinpride1 · Post by **skinpride1** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:43 pm

Trying to make a big deal out of nothing. John becks replacement. I have to say Cousins looks better than beck!!!