London Fletcher Contract

Kilmer72 · Post by **Kilmer72** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:35 am

Just like last year we can't fix everything in one year.

SouthLondonRedskin · Post by **SouthLondonRedskin** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:10 am

Countertrey wrote:Provide the man with proper remuneration.

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:42 am

1niksder wrote:How'd I do?

This is my only question.

1niksder wrote:Re-working Trent Williams will free up another $6.5M minimum or $12.5M with Beck gone.

There are still questions on Trent's dedication, they are even more so now that he's a pot head who wasn't satisfied with being caught once and did it again. By deferring more pay, are we adding to our commitment/risk with him? I like with Fred how it's basically a one year deal with no commitment to see if he can get his shinola together.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:40 pm

Lavar says if we can't bring Fletcher back, we have to draft Sean Spence from Miami. He's crazy about Spence.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:12 pm

FIRSTLY - I would not pay ANY attention to what the idiot named Lavar says or thinks - ESPECIALLY if it's Lavar Arrington

I am not advocating that the Redskins should just pay the man "no matter what"

The Redskins need to get London Fletcher to sign a contract so he can be on the field AND he can be the defensive captain
Those are 2 separate but VERY connected jobs - got to be worth a lot :lol:

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:16 pm

riggofan wrote:Lavar says if we can't bring Fletcher back, we have to draft Sean Spence from Miami. He's crazy about Spence.

We may need to sign him anyways. As of right now, Perry Riley is the only ILB we have on the roster. We could potentially move Zo Alexander inside, but still, we need more inside.

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:37 pm

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riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:07 am

The Hogster wrote:
riggofan wrote:Lavar says if we can't bring Fletcher back, we have to draft Sean Spence from Miami. He's crazy about Spence.

We may need to sign him anyways. As of right now, Perry Riley is the only ILB we have on the roster. We could potentially move Zo Alexander inside, but still, we need more inside.

Lavar is a goof at times, no doubt. hah. He said some good things about Spence though, and I'm willing to concede he knows what he's talking about when it comes to linebackers. Apparently, Michael Barrow is Spence's coach at Miami and really likes him, compares him to London Fletcher in terms of size and the way he plays. Lavar went to check out a workout in Miami and was pretty high on him for what its worth. Thinks he would be a steal if we could get him in the third round.

I'm starting to feel a little better about Fletcher this week, now that we've filed for arbitration. If the Skins think there is a chance they might get some of that cap space back, it makes some sense for both sides to stand pat a little longer. That would keep the Skins from having to cut players right now, and also allow Fletcher to get the best deal possible from the Skins. Any thoughts on that?

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:09 pm

New reports are free-agent LB London Fletcher has resumed contract negotiations with the team.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:11 pm

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:51 pm

1niksder wrote:New reports are free-agent LB London Fletcher has resumed contract negotiations with the team.

Per NFL radio it was reported that shanny said he is a valuable player on and off the field and THE leader of the defense. They are negotiating a contract and he wants nothing more then London to come back and he is sure he will.

It wasn't a real audio clip just a reporter sayin that's what he said..

I think shanny never intended to let London walk regardless of the cap penalties... From what I've read London fired his agent a while back - probably part of why he hasn't signed.. I see this clearing up when the cap pillaging does

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:43 pm

As good as London still is, I think he now realizes his best chance for a fair deal is here. There isn't much of a market for a LB his age, no matter how good he's playing. He probably could go to a contender on the cheap.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:21 pm

cowboykillerzRED wrote:
1niksder wrote:New reports are free-agent LB London Fletcher has resumed contract negotiations with the team.

From what I've read London fired his agent a while back - probably part of why he hasn't signed.. I see this clearing up when the cap pillaging does

He fired him with a offer on the table.

I've heard from multiple reports that they started talking again today.
JI Halsell said that the cap penalty is not holding up the deal, he said it's a dispute over the value of the player and that if both sides wanted to get the deal done it could be structured in a way that makes it happen.

The problem is what Flecther thinks he's worth and how much of that money he can get now.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:20 pm

The Hogster wrote:As good as London still is, I think he now realizes his best chance for a fair deal is here. There isn't much of a market for a LB his age, no matter how good he's playing. He probably could go to a contender on the cheap.

Its true. There is no other team in the league where he is more valuable than to Washington.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:22 pm

1niksder wrote:JI Halsell said that the cap penalty is not holding up the deal, he said it's a dispute over the value of the player and that if both sides wanted to get the deal done it could be structured in a way that makes it happen.

That's REALLY interesting. I hope they can come to terms without it getting ugly. I'd like to see Fletcher be one of those guys who sticks around DC even after his playing days are over.

jmooney · Post by **jmooney** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:17 pm

unfortunately, what he's worth to this team and what this team can afford to pay him are 2 different things. The cap penalty may not be holding it up entirely, but its a major issue.

Its not holding it up on the agents/players end. I'm sure it is for the Redskins.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:24 pm

Fletcher is playing here this year

not having an agent is a bigger problem than the cap space

he's going to get the money - he's not going to get the years

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:28 pm

This arbitration hearing is holding this up. He should get a 2-3 year deal that is basically a series of 1 year deals.

If I'm the Skins, I give him around $5M per year guaranteed with some escalators for (i) leading the league in tackles, (ii) making the Pro Bowl, and (iii) the defense finishing in the Top 5.

Total deal would look like 3 Years $25M but be more like 3 Years $15M

jmooney · Post by **jmooney** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:28 pm

He has no agent?

I know he fired one but, I assumed he picked up another.

Yeah, no wonder its taking a while.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:33 pm

jmooney wrote:He has no agent?

I know he fired one but, I assumed he picked up another.

Yeah, no wonder its taking a while.

I guess since he's had something like 5-6 contracts in his career, he feels he doesn't need one. He's probably right as long as he hires an attorney with knowledge of the NFL to review it. This should be a pretty straightforward deal for him.

Guarantees for skill and/or injury & determining his Likely To Be Earned and Unlikely To Be Earned Incentives should be the only real points of contention.

If I'm the Skins, I'm only guaranteeing him for Skill. Not Injury at his age. And, I'd tie some of his incentive based money to the overall performance of the Defense. Everyone knows he's a tackling machine. I want to see him lead this defense to the Top 5.

patjam77 · Post by **patjam77** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:56 pm

For what it's worth... Just saw this tweet:
https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/statu ... 5266967552

Hugh Douglas says that he saw Fletcher in Orlando and congratulates him on a new deal.
Sweet!

44diesel · Post by **44diesel** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:57 pm

patjam77 wrote:For what it's worth... Just saw this tweet:
https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/statu ... 5266967552

Hugh Douglas says that he saw Fletcher in Orlando and congratulates him on a new deal.
Sweet!

Please say it is so! [-o<

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:00 pm

Please please please

patjam77 · Post by **patjam77** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:03 pm

Get the F outta here... You mean I scooped some of these hardcore pimps on this board??? MY FIRST SCOOP! Whoohoo! :-)

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:15 pm

patjam77 wrote:Get the F outta here... You mean I scooped some of these hardcore pimps on this board??? MY FIRST SCOOP! Whoohoo!

The tweet was premature; no deal's been done yet. Take a look at Hugh Douglass' later posts.