Redskins/Cowboys file grievance against NFL

die cowboys die · Post by **die cowboys die** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:59 pm

NYG are now at the top of my list. those comments by Mara are INFURIATING. he must be destroyed. DIE GIANTS DIE

HEROHAMO · Post by **HEROHAMO** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:39 am

Yeah that team in TX used to be my most hated. There is no doubt that the Gstrings and Mara are the new hated team for me. I cant remember the Cowpies ownership ever doing something like Mara has done. I cant go back too far though.

Hooligan · Post by **Hooligan** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:02 am

The Redskins team with their arch-enemy vs a mutual threat? Say it isn't so...

I live in Giants country. I've hated them more than the Cowboys for a while now, but it just kicked up a notch.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:04 am

Countertrey wrote:I want our cap space back, and reparations for the damage done by our inability to negotiate for any number of now unavailable players... but, I suspect Snyder will be more like you... and love having a full 32 million additional to play with

+1

They have missed out not only signing players but they lose the future production of those players, throw in the players they have signed but they have had to limit the length of the contracts because of lack of option to use 2013 cap space now and this has hurt the growth of a rebuilding team.

SouthLondonRedskin · Post by **SouthLondonRedskin** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:14 am

The really annoying thing about this is that its mostly down to the Haynesworth deal.

If the muppet actually performed for us and was a starter now it wouldn't be half as bad, but to think we wasted all that time and money on that piece of _hit and yet that isn't penalty enough, we now get punished further even though he's long gone...

:explode:

It's like his fat face is still laughing at us whilst he continues to spend the money he 'earned' in his short time in DC.

If this cap space penalty sticks then the Haynesworth deal, if not already, is the worst in the history of the NFL IMO.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:25 am

Deadskins wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:I want some justice now more than ever, with Mara doing that ridiculous posturing. He almost makes me hate the Giants just a little more than that team in TX . . . . almost.

+1

Do the Math

Rob the Redskins and pick pocket ttiT, you got a third of what you need...

Mara, Goodell, and D. Smith got together...

Put Smith back in office, looked at Philthy and gave them a pass and hit Mara's other rivals with restrictions less than a day before the market opened.

They screwed up when they tried to rob two crooks... billionaire crooks no less.

A bunch might come out during these meetings this week. they may even reach a settlement without the arbitrator or the can fight until it ends up in court.

To me it looks like Goodell, Smith along with Mara & Committee colluded to punish certain teams for not colluding

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:27 am

http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/ar ... 5d7a3ddaa5
Finance (Bob McNair)

Investment (Wayne Weaver)

Stadium (Art Rooney)

Business Ventures (Dean Spanos)

Super Bowl Advisory (Katie Blackburn)

International (Clark Hunt)

Management Council Executive Committee/Labor (John Mara)

Hall of Fame (Jerry Jones)

SouthLondonRedskin · Post by **SouthLondonRedskin** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:51 am

I heard Snyder has a bounty out on Goodell, who's up for it...?!?!?!

:rock:

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:12 am

I understand that Chuck Norris is a Cowboys fan...

I encourage Mr Mara, and Mr Goodell to consider their steps very carefully...

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:31 am

NFL.com just sent me an email, they said..

GRIEVE DEEZ BAMA!

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:45 am

Scottskins wrote:http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/John-Mara-Named-Chairman-of-NFLs-Management-Council-Executive-Committee/088708e6-0c97-45b8-9fc1-125d7a3ddaa5
Finance (Bob McNair)

Investment (Wayne Weaver)

Stadium (Art Rooney)

Business Ventures (Dean Spanos)

Super Bowl Advisory (Katie Blackburn)

International (Clark Hunt)

Management Council Executive Committee/Labor (John Mara)

Hall of Fame (Jerry Jones)

That is only a partial list. It was a list of new members. The other members are listed in the article.

However, I'm sure Wayne Weaver is no longer on the committee since he is no longer an NFL owner.

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:29 am

You only gotta tell me once sf ;-)

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:44 am

1niksder wrote:Mara, Goodell, and D. Smith got together...

Put Smith back in office, looked at Philthy and gave them a pass and hit Mara's other rivals with restrictions less than a day before the market opened.

I'm no D. Smith fan, but he kind of got strong-armed on this deal by Mara/Goodell. Agree to this deal or we won't raise the salary cap and you will be in hot water with the NFLPA. I suspect he will be more than happy that the Skins/Boys aren't taking this lying down.

Anyway, I am just psyched that the Redskins are going after the league on this deal. Arbitration is the smartest way to go about it to prevent the larger collusion issues from exploding. I don't see any possible way that an unbiased, third party can look at what happened and say it was fair.

Oh and John Mara can suck it.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:37 pm

Scottskins wrote:You only gotta tell me once sf

My phone will post things twice if I don't have really god reception. I usually go in and delete the duplicate.

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:53 pm

Scottskins wrote:http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/John-Mara-Named-Chairman-of-NFLs-Management-Council-Executive-Committee/088708e6-0c97-45b8-9fc1-125d7a3ddaa5
Finance (Bob McNair)

Investment (Wayne Weaver)

Stadium (Art Rooney)

Business Ventures (Dean Spanos)

Super Bowl Advisory (Katie Blackburn)

International (Clark Hunt)

Management Council Executive Committee/Labor (John Mara)

Hall of Fame (Jerry Jones)

I think these are various chairpersons of various committees as opposed to members of the Exec. Man. Council Committee which, I beleive, is composed entirely of owners.

DarthMonk

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:57 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:
Scottskins wrote:http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/John-Mara-Named-Chairman-of-NFLs-Management-Council-Executive-Committee/088708e6-0c97-45b8-9fc1-125d7a3ddaa5
Finance (Bob McNair)

Investment (Wayne Weaver)

Stadium (Art Rooney)

Business Ventures (Dean Spanos)

Super Bowl Advisory (Katie Blackburn)

International (Clark Hunt)

Management Council Executive Committee/Labor (John Mara)

Hall of Fame (Jerry Jones)

That is only a partial list. It was a list of new members. The other members are listed in the article.

However, I'm sure Wayne Weaver is no longer on the committee since he is no longer an NFL owner.

Where? I thought the article only named various committee chairs as opposed to members of the Exec. Man. Council Commmittee.

DarthMonk

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:01 pm

Burbank should overturn this penalty. I expect that he will if he's not in the NFL's pocket. Andrew Brandt would overturn it. Let's hope they think in line over there at UPenn.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:38 pm

Countertrey wrote:I understand that Chuck Norris is a Cowboys fan...

I just lost a lot of respect for him. :puke:

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:39 pm

Deadskins wrote:
Countertrey wrote:I understand that Chuck Norris is a Cowboys fan...

I just lost a lot of respect for him.

Chuck Norris doesn't need respect. Your fear is enough.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:42 pm

Sorry Charlie, I fear no Cowpie fan.

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:00 pm

Countertrey wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
Countertrey wrote:I understand that Chuck Norris is a Cowboys fan...

I just lost a lot of respect for him.

Chuck Norris doesn't need respect. Your fear is enough.

Tebow and Jesus both wear this shirt:

DarthMonk

HarleyHog · Post by **HarleyHog** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:24 pm

Mara is a pig
His team sux
Collusion sux
We did "nothing wrong", but still get hosed. A SB win will be our best revenge.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:19 pm

Chuck Norris never had respect. His allegiance to the Cowboys comes as no surprise given his record. Carry on.

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:29 pm

DarthMonk wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:
Scottskins wrote:http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/John-Mara-Named-Chairman-of-NFLs-Management-Council-Executive-Committee/088708e6-0c97-45b8-9fc1-125d7a3ddaa5
Finance (Bob McNair)

Investment (Wayne Weaver)

Stadium (Art Rooney)

Business Ventures (Dean Spanos)

Super Bowl Advisory (Katie Blackburn)

International (Clark Hunt)

Management Council Executive Committee/Labor (John Mara)

Hall of Fame (Jerry Jones)

That is only a partial list. It was a list of new members. The other members are listed in the article.

However, I'm sure Wayne Weaver is no longer on the committee since he is no longer an NFL owner.

Where? I thought the article only named various committee chairs as opposed to members of the Exec. Man. Council Commmittee.

DarthMonk

You could be right. I did a quick read through, so I might have gooned that one.

rick301 · Post by **rick301** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:32 pm

1niksder wrote:They have missed out not only signing players but they lose the future production of those players, throw in the players they have signed but they have had to limit the length of the contracts because of lack of option to use 2013 cap space now and this has hurt the growth of a rebuilding team.

This is the real issue. I think we'll get the cap space back eventually. The longer this drags on the more it will limit our ability (and the 'boys) in putting the 2012 team together and limits acquisitions/resignings.

Mara knows that. Look at the timing of the penalty. The damage has been done. This is win-win for him. He has limited the ability of two team in his conference to become more competitive. Even when we get the cap space back, Mara still wins. By then probably most of the good free agents will be signed and that may include many of ours also.

The only thing that make me smile is thinking how pi$$ed he must be that we swept his team this past year ... and how much more pi$$ed he will be when we do it again this year!