Proposed Rule Changes For 2012

[1niksder]

Proposed Rule Changes For 2012


Here’s a look at the proposed rule changes for the 2012

Bills propose that replay officials in the booth should be in charge of making all decisions related to instant replay

Steelers propose adjusting the horse-collar tackle rule to remove the exception for quarterback that are inside of the pocket

Steelers proposes that the NFL adopt the postseason overtime rules for the regular season

Competition committee suggests adopting the college rule for too many men on the field

Competition committee proposes protection for defensive players that suffer helmet-to-helmet hits

Competition committee proposes automatic replay review of turnovers

Competition committee proposes delaying the trading deadline and 90-player offseason roster deadline by 2-weeks

Competition committee proposes adjusting the final cutdown from Saturday to Friday because the first week starts on a Wednesday

Competition committee proposes changing the rules for injured reserve rules to allow players to return later in the season

Competition committee proposes a roster exemption for a player with a concussion, one per team

[DarthMonk]

I propose the following:

Don't start the PLAY CLOCK until all defensive players in the field of play are no longer offside.

My gripe is after long gains. The offense has to hustle like crazy to snap the ball within 25 seconds. A timeout is often burned. I find it inconsistent that the play clock ticks down on the offense while the defense is still offside.

BTW - in late game scenarios the refs do not allow a snap until the defense is onside. They wait as long as defenders are making an honest effort to get onside.

Anyway, the way things stand now the offense is essentially punished for long gains.

I also recall the defense (in the Super Bowl?) using 12 men on the field to their advantage. Anybody remember that?

DarthMonk

[1niksder]

I propose the following:

Don't start the PLAY CLOCK until all defensive players in the field of play are no longer offside.

My gripe is after long gains. The offense has to hustle like crazy to snap the ball within 25 seconds. A timeout is often burned. I find it inconsistent that the play clock ticks down on the offense while the defense is still offside.

But if the offense is lined up they can snap the ball and get a easy 5 yards because the D was off-sides. Not starting the play clock would delute the effectiveness of the 2 min. offense.

I also recall the defense (in the Super Bowl?) using 12 men on the field to their advantage. Anybody remember that?

DarthMonk

Competition committee suggests adopting the college rule for too many men on the field, which is a dead-ball foul if a team lines up on offense for more than three seconds, or if a team on defense lines up with too many men and the snap is imminent. In those cases, the officials will blow the play dead and assess a five-yard penalty instead of waiting for the play to start and time runs of the clock. Now (if passed) if it happens after the clock has started the would be put back on the clock.

This would be a good rule change as is:

Adding an injured reserve exemption so that if a player was on the roster through the first regular season weekend, that player can be placed on injured reserve and designated for return, and then can return to practice six weeks later and play in a game eight weeks later, rather than having all players on injured reserve out for the season, and Moving the trade deadline from Week 6 to Week 8.

[Countertrey]

Not especially interested... until they start giving defenses their testicles back.

[DarthMonk]

But if the offense is lined up they can snap the ball and get a easy 5 yards because the D was off-sides. Not starting the play clock would delute the effectiveness of the 2 min. offense.

This is always the first objection I get - even when I mention it in advance:

BTW - in late game scenarios the refs do not allow a snap until the defense is onside. They wait as long as defenders are making an honest effort to get onside.

Here's the response: No. They can't. The refs don't let them. The refs give the D a chance to get onside now. They actually hold the ball if defenders are making an honest effort. Happens every game.

... and I'm talking play clock not game clock.

The offense should not have a play clock ticking down when they couldn't snap it if they wanted to.

Now if the D just runs off the field to get the play clock going the offense can line up and snap against less than 11 guys. This rewards hustle instead of penalizing long gains.

DarthMonk

[1niksder]

But if the offense is lined up they can snap the ball and get a easy 5 yards because the D was off-sides. Not starting the play clock would delute the effectiveness of the 2 min. offense.

This is always the first objection I get - even when I mention it in advance:

BTW - in late game scenarios the refs do not allow a snap until the defense is onside. They wait as long as defenders are making an honest effort to get onside.

Here's the response: No. They can't. The refs don't let them. The refs give the D a chance to get onside now. They actually hold the ball if defenders are making an honest effort. Happens every game.

... and I'm talking play clock not game clock.

The offense should not have a play clock ticking down when they couldn't snap it if they wanted to.

Note: I omitted that part of your post mostly because the clock stops on first downs... but I've seen it happen on plays that don't result in first downs, so I had no defense or reason to justify them not addressing the whole issue.

Now if the D just runs off the field to get the play clock going the offense can line up and snap against less than 11 guys. This rewards hustle instead of penalizing long gains.

DarthMonk

The rule for this happening and resulting in 12 men on the field really won't change... another part of the issue not being addressed.

[DarthMonk]

Not especially interested... until they start giving defenses their testicles back.

Ain't that the truth.

DarthMonk

[DarthMonk]

1nik:

I think we have our wires crossed. For one, the play clock is not the game clock. And since when does the clock stop on first downs? I've seen that in college in the last few minutes of a half until they spot the ball but not in the pros. In fact, after going out of bounds (pros) they now only stop the clock long enough to spot the ball until late in the half.

My 12 men on the field question is unrelated. I saw defenses doing it to stop the clock IF they got caught. No time run-off for the defense. Something needs to be done about that.

I'm also not sure how the defense running off the field results in 12 men on the field. I was talking about the play clock running with the defense still offside.

DarthMonk

But if the offense is lined up they can snap the ball and get a easy 5 yards because the D was off-sides. Not starting the play clock would delute the effectiveness of the 2 min. offense.

This is always the first objection I get - even when I mention it in advance:

BTW - in late game scenarios the refs do not allow a snap until the defense is onside. They wait as long as defenders are making an honest effort to get onside.

Here's the response: No. They can't. The refs don't let them. The refs give the D a chance to get onside now. They actually hold the ball if defenders are making an honest effort. Happens every game.

... and I'm talking play clock not game clock.

The offense should not have a play clock ticking down when they couldn't snap it if they wanted to.

Note: I omitted that part of your post mostly because the clock stops on first downs... but I've seen it happen on plays that don't result in first downs, so I had no defense or reason to justify them not addressing the whole issue.

Now if the D just runs off the field to get the play clock going the offense can line up and snap against less than 11 guys. This rewards hustle instead of penalizing long gains.

DarthMonk

The rule for this happening and resulting in 12 men on the field really won't change... another part of the issue not being addressed.

[DarthMonk]

Here's another one:

I understand the letter of the law regarding intnetional grounding but the rule seems very wrong to me. "Hey, I'll step outside the pocket and become a running threat and now I can avoid a sack as long as I throw it far enough."

WTF.

I know rules are nerdy and the fabulous sports babe (remember her) would not discuss them but ...

DarthMonk