Redskins strike a deal with rams

[Countertrey]

Request:

Don't let Redsins_Fanatic hijack by replying to his posts.

OK.

I searched for these vanity plates a few weeks ago and they were taken:

RG3

RGIII

I think someone snatched them up for re-sale later. Dog!

DarthMonk

You should try STF4GRF...

[Snout]

I am resigned the accept this and cheer for my team. But in the deep recesses of my memory, I keep thinking "Heath Shuler." I remember Redskins fans back then insisted that he should have won the Heisman, but he was robbed.

Hey, speaking of the Heisman, if RGIII comes that means that the Redskins have employed 3 of the last 20 Heisman winners, the other two being Desmond Howard (1991) and Danny Wuerffel (1996).

If we want more Heisman quarterbacks as potential backups, Chris Weinke (2000), Eric Crouch (2001), Jason White (2003) and Troy Smith (2006) may be available.

Aaaaarrggghhhh!

[Countertrey]

This kid ain't Heath Shuler.

[welch]

This kid ain't Heath Shuler.

Of course, we didn't know Heath Shuler was fundamentally broken until the Redskins had him, but RG3 sure looks good. As far as we, outside Redskin Park, can see, RG3 is the best in a long while.

A 220 pound QB with an arm who is only a shade slower than Darrel Green???

Wow.

Breath-taking.

And both CT and I lived through long years when the Redskins had no 1st round picks...we called it "The Future is Now"...and it was a pretty good time.

If the team drafts smart in the lower rounds, as well as the second, third, and fourth, the Skins will be fine.

For the record, I think the Redskins had no 1st round pick between Ray (?) MacDonald and Art Monk. Joe Jacoby, Russ Grimm, Jeff Bostic, and Mark Sclereth were not first rounders. Neither were Charles Mann and Dexter Manley.

Good deal.

[Smithian]

So I was thrilled about the move last night. Loved it.

Slept on it.

Thought about it some more.

Realized the risks. Considered the positives.

Yup, still love it.

[Kilmer72]

I guess Hitler can relax:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... -zOo6ydhQY

DarthMonk

LMAO!!!!

[Prowl33]

By comparison, the Giants gave up a swap of 1st rounders, a third and fifth rounder, and a 1st rounder in the next season.
We gave up swap of 1st rounders, a 2nd rounder a 1st rounder in the next season, and a first rounder in 2014.

So broken down, this years 1st round draft picks were a wash, next years 1st rounders were a wash, the 1st in 2014 is like a 3rd this year, so those cancel out. So it comes down to this years 2nd to this years 3rd and 5th. Someone break out the value chart, but the totals between those have got to be fairly close right?

Throw the trade chart out the window with the new CBA. Also, how is our # 1 in 2014 like a 3rd rounder???

because its a 1st rounder 3 years from now. Its like money, you have to discount for present value. $10 promised to you in 3 years is not worth $10 to you today. Conversely, $10 in hand today will be worth more, given x rate of interest, in 3 years. So, the value of a #1 drops or rises depending on what year its good in. OUr first this year is worth much more to the rams then the one we're giving them in 2014.

I understand what your saying with this, and I'm not arguing with the decision of us trading... but a first round pick is a first round pick. Come next year, and the year after, it's not a "2nd or 3rd round value" it's a first round pick we no longer have.

That being said... this will either be the best, or worst decision the organization has ever made, and no one will know that answer until we atleast get through this season.

[SkinsJock]

This is a VERY good trade for the Redskins

This is also a VERY good trade for the Rams

we gave up 2 first round picks and a 2nd round pick

Anyone that cannot see this as being a VERY good move by the Redskins is VERY pessimistic


what a great day for Redskins fans

AND


we have 6 months to wait to watch this franchise begin the road back to consistently contending for the playoffs

We may or not be there this season but we will be ijn the playoffs for many years to come

NOT because we may have RGIII as the QB but because we have a FO that will do what it takes to make this franchise great again

FANTASTIC trade

UNBELIEVABLE

[Countertrey]

This kid ain't Heath Shuler.

Of course, we didn't know Heath Shuler was fundamentally broken until the Redskins had him, but RG3 sure looks good. As far as we, outside Redskin Park, can see, RG3 is the best in a long while.

A 220 pound QB with an arm who is only a shade slower than Darrel Green???

Wow.

Breath-taking.

And both CT and I lived through long years when the Redskins had no 1st round picks...we called it "The Future is Now"...and it was a pretty good time.

If the team drafts smart in the lower rounds, as well as the second, third, and fourth, the Skins will be fine.

For the record, I think the Redskins had no 1st round pick between Ray (?) MacDonald and Art Monk. Joe Jacoby, Russ Grimm, Jeff Bostic, and Mark Sclereth were not first rounders. Neither were Charles Mann and Dexter Manley.

Good deal.

There is some irony in that there is a family connection between both periods of no-first-rounder. The first one resulted in our first Super Bowl appearance, and many very competitive seasons, as well as the real birth of the rivalry with the Cowboys... Good times. Perhaps, again? Let's hope.

This is certainly a good start.

[Red_One43]

Cosell expects RG3 to be “excellent fit” for Redskins offense

NFL Films analyst Greg Cosell is a frequent guest on PFT Live. He might watch more game tape than any human on the planet. Cosell is a trusted voice on player personnel evaluation, and he’s signed off on the Redskins’ trade up for Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III. Cosell wrote on Twitter Saturday that Griffin will be an “excellent fit” in Redskins coach Mike Shanahan’s offense, which historically features an athletic quarterback capable of making throws on the run. Cosell explained that Shanahan’s “play-action and boot-action pass game” sets up “downfield shot plays.”

Griffin’s primary strengths are his athleticism and vertical passing accuracy. He can run and has a big arm, and those traits will go to use in Washington’s system.

By any measure, the Redskins surrendered more draft-pick compensation than the No. 2 overall selection is theoretically worth. But the foundation of the trade was not just quarterback acquisition. The Redskins acquired a quarterback that quintessentially fits what they want to do.

When Shanahan thinks a QB fits his O, he goes after him. True, McNabb failed here, but there was no question that McNabb's skill set fit Shanny's O. Look at all the 50 yard pass completions, he had early in the season. He made Armstrong into what looked like a promising deep threat.
I take it that RGIII will not lack the work ethic, wil work on his footwork and will wear the wrist band, if need be.

Next up for the O, WR and OL.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... s-offense/

[DarthMonk]

Cosell expects RG3 to be “excellent fit” for Redskins offense

NFL Films analyst Greg Cosell is a frequent guest on PFT Live. He might watch more game tape than any human on the planet. Cosell is a trusted voice on player personnel evaluation, and he’s signed off on the Redskins’ trade up for Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III. Cosell wrote on Twitter Saturday that Griffin will be an “excellent fit” in Redskins coach Mike Shanahan’s offense, which historically features an athletic quarterback capable of making throws on the run. Cosell explained that Shanahan’s “play-action and boot-action pass game” sets up “downfield shot plays.”

Griffin’s primary strengths are his athleticism and vertical passing accuracy. He can run and has a big arm, and those traits will go to use in Washington’s system.

By any measure, the Redskins surrendered more draft-pick compensation than the No. 2 overall selection is theoretically worth. But the foundation of the trade was not just quarterback acquisition. The Redskins acquired a quarterback that quintessentially fits what they want to do.

When Shanahan thinks a QB fits his O, he goes after him. True, McNabb failed here, but there was no question that McNabb's skill set fit Shanny's O. Look at all the 50 yard pass completions, he had early in the season. He made Armstrong into what looked like a promising deep threat.
I take it that RGIII will not lack the work ethic, wil work on his footwork and will wear the wrist band, if need be.

Next up for the O, WR and OL.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... s-offense/

Thanks, Red.

Long time no read.

DarthMonk

[Manchester_Redskin]

Three things ..

1. If the Griffin hype continues to build, who is to say that the Colts dont draft him instead and we get Luck. At one stage Luck was a shoe-in for the Heisman and we all know how that ended. Either way we are getting a projected franchise QB, something we havnt had in the 30 years I have been supporting them.

2. If we make the playoffs and beyond these next couple of years then those first rounders will be picks in the 20's , we win a superbowl and the first round is effectively no better than the 1st pick of round 2

3. We are mostly giving up 2 first round picks ..... Suppose we had the chance to make a similar deal two years ago. Our first rounds picks since then have been a guy who'd rather do dope then play football ... and a trade down, measure that against a franchise QB and its a no-contest.

We have done the right thing.

[RayNAustin]

^^^ A+

Though it would be a surprise, it's not out of the realm of possibilities that the Colts could take RG3, leaving Luck to the Redskins. They've made no statement about who they will select, so until they do, it's all up to what direction they are planning to go offensively.

They're in full rebuild mode, and RG3's edge in mobility as a scrambler might appeal to certain offensive strategies. Either way, the Redskins can't lose, as both guys have great potential to be top tier talents ... and I expect both to be extremely successful, and if the Colts maintain their secrecy, draft day will be like a fortune cookie.

Neither guy is a consolation prize ... and I'd be equally excited to have either one throwing the football for the Skins.

[Countertrey]

While Luck would thrive in Shanahan's offense, Griffin brings some intangibles, due to his incredible athleticism, but clear preferrence to pass the ball. He would bring a new dimension. But, Ray is right. Neither is a "consolation" prize. I'd be equally thrilled with Luck.

[The Hogster]

I'm all in on Griffin. But, if Luck "Fell" to us, I mean c'mon. Whose going to complain?

[Deadskins]

Though it would be a surprise, it's not out of the realm of possibilities that the Colts could take RG3, leaving Luck to the Redskins. They've made no statement about who they will select

I read a report somewhere that Irsay want's Luck, and won't be dissuaded no matter how well RGIII showed at the combine or at his pro day.

[Countertrey]

Though it would be a surprise, it's not out of the realm of possibilities that the Colts could take RG3, leaving Luck to the Redskins. They've made no statement about who they will select

I read a report somewhere that Irsay want's Luck, and won't be dissuaded no matter how well RGIII showed at the combine or at his pro day.

I think that Luck has to be considered as the clear favorite to go to the Colts. After all, Irsay likes him enough to release the man who is probably the best quarterback in NFL history. You don't do that for just any football player. They have no reason to play games with it, unless it's to get a contract done before the draft. I don't see that, because he's already let the cat out of the bag... he's in love with Luck.

[CanesSkins26]

^^^ A+

Though it would be a surprise, it's not out of the realm of possibilities that the Colts could take RG3, leaving Luck to the Redskins. They've made no statement about who they will select, so until they do, it's all up to what direction they are planning to go offensively.

They're in full rebuild mode, and RG3's edge in mobility as a scrambler might appeal to certain offensive strategies. Either way, the Redskins can't lose, as both guys have great potential to be top tier talents ... and I expect both to be extremely successful, and if the Colts maintain their secrecy, draft day will be like a fortune cookie.

Neither guy is a consolation prize ... and I'd be equally excited to have either one throwing the football for the Skins.

The Colts leaving us with Luck would make this trade even better for us. With that said, no way they pass on Luck.

[DarthMonk]

I'm all in on Griffin. But, if Luck "Fell" to us, I mean c'mon. Whose going to complain?

My feelings exactly. I pushed my chips in October. I was at the same table as coboykillerzRED.

DarthMonk

[rskin72]

Think Irsay is on record as having stated that he will take Luck with #1 pick. That is ok by me because I believe RGIII will be a more potent version of Michael Vick......and is taller, faster, and appears to be more motivated to actually learn the playbook and study opposition defenses that Vick ever was.

If we ended up with Luck, I wouldn't be unhappy, but I have been on the RGIII bandwagon for a little while now, and hopefully will enjoy watching him (and his teammates) win a few more games next season that we have managed in the past few years......

With either QB, I think/hope that we have found our QB for the next decade or so.

[cowboyhater4life]

I'm all in on Griffin. But, if Luck "Fell" to us, I mean c'mon. Whose going to complain?

+1

[Countertrey]

Think Irsay is on record as having stated that he will take Luck with #1 pick. That is ok by me because I believe RGIII will be a more potent version of Michael Vick......and is taller, faster, and appears to be more motivated to actually learn the playbook and study opposition defenses that Vick ever was.

If we ended up with Luck, I wouldn't be unhappy, but I have been on the RGIII bandwagon for a little while now, and hopefully will enjoy watching him (and his teammates) win a few more games next season that we have managed in the past few years......

With either QB, I think/hope that we have found our QB for the next decade or so.

Griffin is NOT a bigger, better version of Vick. Outside of incredible athleticism, the resemblance ends there. All you have to do is listen to him, and you begin to understand. He is a Junior in college, and is nearly done his Masters degree. He is a pocket passer, who happens to be an incredible athlete. Watch the NFLN segment with Mooch coaching him up, and you see an incredibly acute mind. Word is, he performed like this in the Redskins interview at the combine... that is what committed the FO to get this trade done.

This kid is more like what you'd get if you put the leadership of Warren Moon and the football mind of Joe Montana in Mike Vick's body... and then made it bigger and stronger. There have been many incredible athletes playing quarterback... but very few quarterbacks who were incredible athletes. I think we just got us one of the latter. How's THAT for hyperbole?

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

I'm all in on Griffin. But, if Luck "Fell" to us, I mean c'mon. Whose going to complain?

My feelings exactly. I pushed my chips in October. I was at the same table as coboykillerzRED.

DarthMonk

Awww its a beautiful thing... We are close to buying family RGiii jerseys!
Whiff for Griff!
Can't wait for all the Photoshop pics to be real
With my home NCAA team umm lobos winning the conference tourni Friday night then making my dreams of rgiii come true... It was an epic weekend indeed

[CanesSkins26]

@STLouisRams: The Rams have officially submitted trade with Washington involving the No. 2 pick to the NFL.

[SkinsJock]

^^^ Looks like Canes is still kind of thinking this might not happen

with what we've seen recently from the league office, he might be right

anyone else think the NFL is going to veto this trade because it helps the Redskins too much