Redskin in Canada wrote:This move reverses the trend established last year to grow steadily through the draft and bring young people.
I disagree. We still have seven picks this year (and our first rounder will net us a franchise QB), seven next year (no first rounder, but that hardly means we can't have a productive draft), and six (for now) in 2014. We can continue to build through the draft.
It will definitely be harder. But our FO has already shown the ability to find talent in lower rounds, so I've got some hope there.
Still, not another 1st round pick until 2015. Ouch!
The Hogster wrote:Vincent Jackson, Ben Grubbs, c'mon down.
You know, Hog Man - this is the best part. Every FA in the league knows we are going to have a stud at QB while he drinks his coffee this morning.
What a way to start spring break!
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Yessir!! My friends who are afflicted with CFD - Cowboy Fan Disease - have already started hating!!
You have friends that are Cowboy fans...?!?!?
Oh, Hogster, I'm disappointed in you....
It's inevitable--I live in DC.
They're the worst kind too!
I have a family of guys (5 brothers) who I am very good friends with who are all Cowgirl fans. I grew up around the corner from them and went to school with one of them. I still go over and watch games with them once in a while. The arguments can get pretty heated. The best part is its their old man's fault they grew up that way. The old man is a die hard Giant fan, but served in the Navy, so he was a huge Staubach fan. He bought his sons some a few Staubach jerseys, and the rest is history. The best part about this is the old man knows how obnoxious his sons are being Cowgirl fans. This past season when they all got tickets to the Giants/Cowgirl game in the Meadowlands, he refused to sit next to them, instead getting his own ticket to sit by himself. Its quite comical when they argue football.
..............................................I LOVE THIS TRADE
there are so many GOOD ramifications that will happen here, having either Luck or RGIII as our QB
Nobody (that matters) is going to look at what we gave up - the ONLY value to look at here is WHAT WE GOT for those picks
UNBELIEVABLE that what the real fans wanted, really happened
This FO is the best
WOW
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
For all of you that are now saying "we don't have a first round pick in the next 2 drafts" - HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?
we do not have one now but with this FO ANYTHING is possible
this FO is getting it done - GREAT MOVE, HISTORIC ADDITION
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Judge wrote:That is the word that they will be using in five years when they look back on this deal.
While the Rams can use their newly acquired treasure trove of first round picks to draft positions of need and build a much more competitive team...
All the Redskins will have to show for this trade are years where they go 4-12, 6-10, 3-13 and 5-11 and routinely get realistically eliminated from playoff contention by Halloween. And no first round stud picks of their own to choose from, barring any future trades to acquire them.
RG3 is a great athlete. No question about it. He can run really fast, he's ridiculously agile and he won a Heisman Trophy.
Some guys who are not as fast and agile as RG3 are and who did NOT win the Heisman Trophy are: Joe Montana, Ben Roethlisberger, Troy Aikman, Tom Brady and BOTH Manning brothers.
(And before you go there, that's not racial commentary. It's simply the matter of fact.)
So to review...
The Rams are being given a golden opportunity to draft their way back into contention in their division from the ground up and for the long haul, and maybe even be a playoff team before very long. And with Jeff Fisher as their coach now, those chances are probably even better.
And in exchange, the Redskins are going to get a quarterback who can run really fast and who won some games in college.
And so, once again, we see that the people in charge of our favorite team opt for eye-candy and making a big splash instead of good old fashioned common sense.
Drafts are always a gamble, yes. High picks sometimes go bust. Low picks sometimes have long, productive careers. Nothing is certain and there's a large amount of luck necessary for things to work out well.
But the Redskins are taking a foolish risk on this one by gambling with so many assets, and they can expect a LOT of second-guessing when this trade doesn't work out for them.
And it won't. Watch.
RG3 is an amazingly gifted athlete.
The Redskins don't need an athlete.
They need a quarterback. Desperately.
You obviously haven't spent any time watching him. Where did you pinpoint passing accuracy? Where did you mention strong arm? Where did you mention ball security (6 ints last year). This is no runner who plays happens to play football. This is a quarterback. A very unique one.
Redskin in Canada wrote:This move reverses the trend established last year to grow steadily through the draft and bring young people.
I disagree. We still have seven picks this year (and our first rounder will net us a franchise QB), seven next year (no first rounder, but that hardly means we can't have a productive draft), and six (for now) in 2014. We can continue to build through the draft.
I agree Deadskins. People are forgetting to realize that there are very productive players to be found after round 1. This is suppose to be the deepest draft in years. We still have 6 picks in this draft i believe, and may get more if Allen trades down somewhere along the line. Bruce just has his work cut out for himself. He really has to earn his paycheck the next few years and find some late round gems.
THERE IS NO DOUBT that Bruce and Mike know what they're doing and how best to make this franchise better
They've already showed that the past 2 years and now this - WOW
We have vastly improved our chances of success from where we were at the end of 2009
This franchise is in great hands - they will find a way
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
emoses14 wrote:I know, Man! The Rams sure were. I can't believe they'd be this stupid to pass up RGIII for Sam, I can't stay healthy or upright Bradford!
I'm glad a real redskin fan sees this trade the same way I do!
The Rams made the smart move. Bradford has all the makings of a stud qb but has had no help around him. No qb would stay upright or healthy with the offensive line that he's played behind the past few years. With this trade the Rams now have 5 first round picks in the next three seasons. This has the makings of a win-win trade for both the Rams and Skins.
This team. Needed a Franchise QB more than anything else. With Manning having snubbed th Redskins that meant having to get the #2 pick in the draft. Yeah, they probably overpaid for it but when you need something as vital as a Franchise QB you do what you need to in order to make it happen.
This is an aggressive move that will set the tone for the Redskins entire offseason. It also suggests to me that Mike Shannahan realized another losing season was going to mean heading to the unemployment line and apparently he doesn't want that just yet.
Obviously we'll have to see how it all works out, but I'm excited to see the team going for it rather than sitting back and hoping for the best.
Did you guys hear something? It sounded like someone jumping on a bandwagon...
"That's a clown question, bro" - - - - - - - - - - Bryce Harper, DC Statesman "But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man That he didn't, didn't already have" - - - - - - - - - - Dewey Bunnell, America
I'll say this and depart. Ask an Giants fan if they care about the picks "lost" in the Eli trade...,2 Super Bowl wins later... You gotta pay to play.
Exactly. It's a painful price, but worth it. We have so much cap space, I hope we use it wisely. But now we could have our QB position set for 15 years.
Hail to the Redskins!
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emoses14 wrote:I know, Man! The Rams sure were. I can't believe they'd be this stupid to pass up RGIII for Sam, I can't stay healthy or upright Bradford!
I'm glad a real redskin fan sees this trade the same way I do!
The Rams made the smart move. Bradford has all the makings of a stud qb but has had no help around him. No qb would stay upright or healthy with the offensive line that he's played behind the past few years. With this trade the Rams now have 5 first round picks in the next three seasons. This has the makings of a win-win trade for both the Rams and Skins.
This trade has the potential to be Fisher's "In your face, Bud Adams" moment. Hope it works for him... just as much as I hope Griffin becomes an absolute terror to NFC Defensive coaches... especially those in the East.
"That's a clown question, bro" - - - - - - - - - - Bryce Harper, DC Statesman "But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man That he didn't, didn't already have" - - - - - - - - - - Dewey Bunnell, America
OMG - and there I was, having a fun filled Saturday - GAG ME
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
The Hogster wrote:For people talking about the price, think of it this way. We've had 1st round picks in almost every draft over the last 15 years and won nothing.
It's not like having those picks will make us a winner for sure. Talent wins games, and we just added one heck of a talent.
Exactly Hogster. No one walks into a Bentley dealer and asks "how much?" If you have to ask that question than you can't afford it. If the Bentley is your car of choice, and you have the means, you go in and write the check. That being said, lets hope RGIII is a Bentley and not a Ford Pinto.
Maybe this has been said by others but I will say it agan. If RGIII is the elite quarterback in a couple three years that the Redskins neede, this will be a great trade, a seal and well worth the price. If he is just average or out, it will be the worst trade ever. We should take a wait and see attitude until the grade is in.
NOW, we have THE QB 
