QB predictions RG3 going to 'skins

PickSixerTWSS · Post by **PickSixerTWSS** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:12 pm

"Cleveland Browns: Sign Matt Flynn
Everyone expects the Dolphins to sign Matt Flynn, and they very well could. Of course, Miami could agree to terms with Peyton Manning. And if they don't, what if they're too focused on courting Manning while Flynn is looking for a new home? And what if Joe Philbin doesn't even want Flynn as his quarterback?

If the Dolphins are set on pursuing Manning, Flynn could easily sign with the Browns. Mike Holmgren would love to bring in Flynn to run his West Coast offense. The Packer signal-caller is perfect for Holmgren's system.

Washington Redskins: Trade for Robert Griffin
I had Peyton Manning going to the Redskins in my previous update. Washington remains a strong possibility because of its cap room, but Manning may not want to play for someone like Daniel Snyder. The fact that he would have to battle his brother twice a year doesn't help matters.

If the Redskins swing and miss on Manning, there's no question that they'll become the favorites to trade up for Robert Griffin. Snyder will do everything in his power to secure a blue-chip quarterback prospect, and unlike the Browns, he won't be scared to part with a draft pick that could be relatively inconsequential in the long run.

Jacksonville Jaguars: Sign Josh Johnson
Josh Johnson has been linked to the 49ers because of the Jim Harbaugh connection. I believe Jacksonville is the favorite to sign the athletic, high-upside quarterback, however.

Greg Olson, the offensive coordinator for the Buccaneers last year, was recently hired to be the quarterbacks' coach for the Jaguars. Both Olson and Johnson love working with each other, and Olson will push for general manager Gene Smith to sign Josh Freeman's backup.

Olson will understandably want his own guy to compete with Blaine Gabbert. Gabbert showed no signs of becoming a legitimate starting quarterback in this league last year, so Jacksonville will need a fallback option just in case he doesn't improve.

Miami Dolphins: Draft Ryan Tannehill
I already discussed Flynn to Miami. He could reunite with his former coach, but the Dolphins seem set on pursuing Manning.

I don't think it'll be Manning. It very well could be, but there are two reasons why I think No. 18 will play elsewhere. First, Stephen Ross is the same as Daniel Snyder. He's an overzealous owner who will have trouble maintaining (or ever achieving) success because he does stupid things. Snyder signs old, washed-up players; Ross is more interested in surrounding himself with B-list celebrities and presenting the Dolphins as a show rather than a football team. Why would Manning want to play for Ross?

Second, Manning will have to battle Tom Brady twice per year as a member of the Dolphins. It'll be difficult for him to reach the playoffs under those circumstances.

As for Robert Griffin, I doubt the Rams would want to miss out on Justin Blackmon by moving down to No. 8. Jacksonville won't hesitate to snatch the Oklahoma State wideout off the board.

So, if Miami can't net Manning, Flynn or Griffin, it'll have to settle for Ryan Tannehill. Ross' B-list celebrity friends won't be too happy about that.

Kansas City Chiefs: Sign Chad Henne
The Chiefs aren't really in a position to do anything with the quarterback position this offseason. Scott Pioli will give Matt Cassel another year, as his options are very limited right now.

I do think Kansas City will sign Chad Henne to be a solid backup in the event of another Cassel injury. Brian Daboll, the team's current offensive coordinator, worked with Henne when the two were in Miami.

Seattle Seahawks: Draft QB on Day 2
Pete Carroll recently stated that Tarvaris Jackson will be the starting quarterback in 2012. But that doesn't mean that he won't spend a second-day pick on a quarterback.

But which one? Most of the prospects are in play. Ryan Tannehill is very talented, but Seattle will have to move up for him in the back end of the first round to get him. Carroll still has Pac-10/12 ties, so he will likely have inside information on Brock Osweiler and Nick Foles. Brandon Weeden had a great Senior Bowl week, so he's certainly an option in Round 2.

The current favorite is Kirk Cousins. He comes from a pro-style offense, and the Seahawks have shown interest in him. USC and Seahawks beat writer Scott Enyeart tweeted, "(Pete) Carroll has been evaluating Kirk Cousins since this summer at the Elite 11 camp in Malibu, where Kirk was a counselor."

Arizona Cardinals: Sign Peyton Manning
There are five reasons why I think the Cardinals are the favorites to sign Peyton Manning:

1. Larry Fitzgerald. Manning and Fitzgerald are friends, and the two of them have met during the offseason, presumably to talk about playing with each other. Manning has to love the prospect of airing it out to Fitzgerald every week.

2. Cap room. Arizona has about $22 million available, so it can sign Reggie Wayne (and perhaps Dallas Clark and Dwight Freeney if they're cut). Manning and Wayne come as a package, and the Cardinals could use a No. 2 receiver.

3. NFC West. Manning gets to avoid Tom Brady and his brother. Even better, he'll be part of a division that was won by Alex Smith last year.

4. Dome. All of the teams on this page, save for the Cardinals, play outdoors. Manning has enjoyed having a roof over his head for all of his home games throughout his career. Why change now?

5. Proven success. The Cardinals reached the Super Bowl with Kurt Warner. The coaching staff knows how to handle a veteran, Hall of Fame-bound quarterback. Manning might have this in mind when he's making this difficult decision.

New York Jets: Sign Jason Campbell
The Jets need some competition for Mark Sanchez. They've been linked to Jason Campbell for good reason. If Sanchez starts throwing multiple interceptions to 320-pound defensive linemen again, Rex Ryan will want to insert a quarterback with some experience. Campbell's not a great quarterback by any means, but he's solid enough to play the role of a game manager on a talented team. "

I found this and it was damn interesting.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:20 pm

You should really post the link, so you can credit the author...

PickSixerTWSS · Post by **PickSixerTWSS** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:27 pm

Countertrey wrote:You should really post the link, so you can credit the author...

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:06 pm

chiefhog44 · Post by **chiefhog44** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:25 pm

I will add to this.

I could see the Cardinals trading or cutting Kolb and signing Manning. The Browns would be a natural fit with much of the coaching staff from the Eagles. It wouldn't cost them much to do that and they would be able to make major upgrades with their picks.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:30 pm

chiefhog44 wrote:I will add to this.

I could see the Cardinals trading or cutting Kolb and signing Manning. The Browns would be a natural fit with much of the coaching staff from the Eagles. It wouldn't cost them much to do that and they would be able to make major upgrades with their picks.

And the Cardinals have a Dome to go along with a close friend of Peyton, who happens to be one of the best WR in the NFL.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:30 pm

chiefhog44 wrote:I will add to this.

I could see the Cardinals trading or cutting Kolb and signing Manning. The Browns would be a natural fit with much of the coaching staff from the Eagles. It wouldn't cost them much to do that and they would be able to make major upgrades with their picks.

And the Cardinals have a Dome to go along with a close friend of Peyton, who happens to be one of the best WR in the NFL.

Skeletor · Post by **Skeletor** » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:07 pm

Peyton's stats are better outdoors than indoors and better on grass than on turf so I doubt playing in a dome is that critical to him.

BY SURFACE CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT SACK RAT
ON GRASS 197 300 2,209 65.7 7.36 73 16 5 8 98.3
ON TURF 253 379 2,491 66.8 6.57 50 17 12 8 86.9

OUTDOORS 215 321 2,427 67.0 7.56 57 20 8 7 99.8
INDOORS 235 358 2,273 65.6 6.35 73 13 9 9 84.9

As for a receiver, if Peyton signs with a team, it would be a lot easier to attract at top of line free agent like VJax, Colston, Wayne or Garcon. Sure, it's not playing with Fitzgerald, but I think that notion of Peyton will only go to the place with the best receiver is a bit overblown...

jmooney · Post by **jmooney** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:52 am

The thought of Peyton on a team with Larry Fitzgerald is Scary. The man may go an entire season without an incompletion.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:19 am

Who cares where Manning goes? As long as we end up with R.G.III and a free agent QB, I don't care where he plays

HOPEFULLY the Dolphins and the Browns get Manning and Flynn

PickSixerTWSS · Post by **PickSixerTWSS** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:18 am

jmooney wrote:The thought of Peyton on a team with Larry Fitzgerald is Scary. The man may go an entire season without an incompletion.

......I think whats really scary is if Peyton on the Texans. Dominant Defense, best RB in game Andre Johnson?!?!?!?...Not to mention he would also bring Reggie Wayne, plus could you imagine what Peyton Manning's carrer would look with time in the pocket????

It would be like 4 superbowls.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:41 pm

The original post has a lot of holes but the fact remains

the Redskins will be the front runners to get RGIII ... if this FO wants him - mainly because the Browns will not make the trade

NOW ... the FO may not be as high on RGIII as we all are and may want Tannehill but ....

IF this FO wants RGIII they will be able to get him

welch · Post by **welch** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:54 pm

SkinsJock wrote:Who cares where Manning goes? As long as we end up with R.G.III and a free agent QB, I don't care where he plays

+1. My simple thoughts, as well.

(Trying to ignore the inside info predictions from people who are not Dan Snyder until the draft happens. Each of the teams will do what seems to suit them best, and the prediction-makers have no say...like Mel Kiper screaming at the Colts for "ignoring" him, and Heath Shuler, by drafting Marshall Faulk after they had dumped Jeff George.)

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:12 pm

welch wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:Who cares where Manning goes? As long as we end up with R.G.III and a free agent QB, I don't care where he plays

+1. My simple thoughts, as well.

(Trying to ignore the inside info predictions from people who are not Dan Snyder until the draft happens. Each of the teams will do what seems to suit them best, and the prediction-makers have no say...like Mel Kiper screaming at the Colts for "ignoring" him, and Heath Shuler, by drafting Marshall Faulk after they had dumped Jeff George.)

OH man - I remember that well

thanks welch - very apropro as well

SCSkinsFan · Post by **SCSkinsFan** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:37 am

So let it be written, so let it be done. RGIII era to begin soon after last nights deal. Everybody's, well amost everybody's dream came true.

StorminMormon86 · Post by **StorminMormon86** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:09 am

SCSkinsFan wrote:So let it be written, so let it be done. RGIII era to begin soon after last nights deal. Everybody's, well amost everybody's dream came true.

I don't think everyone wanted to give up what they did to acquire him, but we all (obviously) hope this works out.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:16 am

StorminMormon86 wrote:
SCSkinsFan wrote:So let it be written, so let it be done. RGIII era to begin soon after last nights deal. Everybody's, well amost everybody's dream came true.
I don't think everyone wanted to give up what they did to acquire him, but we all (obviously) hope this works out.

The 2013 #1 is a tough pill, but we can survive it if we're smart with our other picks and free agents. I'm all in on this trade.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:45 am

riggofan wrote:
StorminMormon86 wrote:
SCSkinsFan wrote:So let it be written, so let it be done. RGIII era to begin soon after last nights deal. Everybody's, well amost everybody's dream came true.
I don't think everyone wanted to give up what they did to acquire him, but we all (obviously) hope this works out.
The 2013 #1 is a tough pill, but we can survive it if we're smart with our other picks and free agents. I'm all in on this trade.

You mean the 2014 #1, right. I don't think the 2013 #1 was ever in doubt.

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:00 am

HTTR
I'm drunk v(as predicted) crying and hoping this is REAL... If its a sick prank I will fight gsp right damn now

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:10 am

Per Dan Graziano of that 4 letter network

It tells me the Redskins are 100 percent sold on Griffin. That they believe he can step right in and start next year and be the answer over the long haul. That they are convinced he can handle the kind of pressure I just talked about. That he fits what they want to do on offense and that he can pick it up quickly. There's no reason to doubt any of this. Based on everything we've seen and heard from Griffin, he fits these descriptions well, and Mike Shanahan and his coaching staff have surely researched it more deeply and directly than any of us have.

It tells me they plan to be big players in free agency. With a projected $40 million or so in cap room, they can afford to throw money at a stud wide receiver like Vincent Jackson, add depth to their offensive line, re-sign running back Tim Hightower if he's healthy, give London Fletcher the contract he wants to remain the captain of their defense and upgrade where they need to upgrade in the secondary. They will need to do the bulk of this stuff in free agency, because they're not going to have a pick after Griffin until the third round, and they must feel confident that they can get the players they plan to target and put the right pieces around Griffin right away.

I am buying this. Expect big time action in free agency. The team that is on the field in 2012 will be nothing if not dynamic.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:37 am

This FO did not bring in RGIII to be the starter on opening day

They'd love it if he can handle that but he will not be starting until Mike thinks he's the best for that job

NO! - this FO made this trade for ALL the other great reasons - they can now expect a lot of offensive and defensive players will want to be a part of an organization that now has shown they are capable of EVERYTHING
this FO just showed that they can and will find a way to make this franchise a much better place to be

RGIII is not here to "Just win now, baby" - RGIII is here to make this franchise a much better team for the next 10 plus years

EA7649 · Post by **EA7649** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:02 pm

Hes worth every dime rather than getting a subpar qb and him failing which many have. Than saying next draft lets get a franchise qb. LETS BE REAL AND GET ONE, WHEN ONES AVAILABLE! case and point

StorminMormon86 · Post by **StorminMormon86** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:32 am

SkinsJock wrote:This FO did not bring in RGIII to be the starter on opening day

If Rex Grossman is still on this team next year, you'll see RGIII opening day.