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How and Why Athletes Go Broke

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A fascinating story from SI, which printed earlier this year but which I didn't see until just now. It's really amazing what happens to these young men when the stardom and the money hits.

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What the hell happened here? Seven floors above the iced-over Dallas North Tollway, Raghib (Rocket) Ismail is revisiting the question. It's December, and Ismail is sitting in the boardroom of Chapwood Investments, a wealth management firm, his white Notre Dame snow hat pulled down to his furrowed brow.

In 1991 Ismail, a junior wide receiver for the Fighting Irish, was the presumptive No. 1 pick in the NFL draft. Instead he signed with the CFL's Toronto Argonauts for a guaranteed $18.2 million over four years, then the richest contract in football history. But today, at a private session on financial planning attended by eight other current or onetime pro athletes, Ismail, 39, indulges in a luxury he didn't enjoy as a young VIP: hindsight.

"I once had a meeting with J.P. Morgan," he tells the group, "and it was literally like listening to Charlie Brown's teacher." The men surrounding Ismail at the conference table include Angels outfielder Torii Hunter, Cowboys wideout Isaiah Stanback and six former pros: NFL cornerback Ray Mickens and fullback Jerald Sowell (both of whom retired in 2006), major league outfielder Ben Grieve and NBA guard Erick Strickland ('05), and linebackers Winfred Tubbs ('00) and Eugene Lockhart ('92). Ismail ('02) cackles ruefully. "I was so busy focusing on football that the first year was suddenly over," he says. "I'd started with this $4 million base salary, but then I looked at my bank statement, and I just went, What the...?"

Before Ismail can elaborate on his bewilderment—over the complexity of that statement and the amount of money he had already lost—eight heads are nodding, eight faces smiling in sympathy. Hunter chimes in, "Once you get into the financial stuff, and it sounds like Japanese, guys are just like, 'I ain't going back.' They're lost."

At the front of the room Ed Butowsky also does a bobblehead nod. Stout, besuited and silver-haired, Butowsky, 47, is a managing partner at Chapwood and a former senior vice president at Morgan Stanley. His bailiwick as a money manager has long been billionaires, hundred-millionaires and CEOs—a club that, the Steinbrenners' pen be damned, still doesn't include many athletes. But one afternoon six years ago Butowsky was chatting with Tubbs, his neighbor in the Dallas suburb of Plano, and the onetime Pro Bowl player casually described how money spills through athletes' fingers. Tubbs explained how and when they begin earning income (often in school, through illicit payments from agents); how their pro salaries are invested (blindly); and when the millions evaporate (before they know it).

"The details were mind-boggling," recalls Butowsky, who would later hire Tubbs to work in business development at Chapwood. "I couldn't believe what I was hearing."

What happens to many athletes and their money is indeed hard to believe. In this month alone Saints alltime leading rusher Deuce McAllister filed for bankruptcy protection for the Jackson, Miss., car dealership he owns; Panthers receiver Muhsin Muhammad put his mansion in Charlotte up for sale on eBay a month after news broke that his entertainment company was being sued by Wachovia Bank for overdue credit-card payments; and penniless former NFL running back Travis Henry was jailed for nonpayment of child support.

In a less public way, other athletes from the nation's three biggest and most profitable leagues—the NBA, NFL and Major League Baseball—are suffering from a financial pandemic. Although salaries have risen steadily during the last three decades, reports from a host of sources (athletes, players' associations, agents and financial advisers) indicate that:

• By the time they have been retired for two years, 78% of former NFL players have gone bankrupt or are under financial stress because of joblessness or divorce.

• Within five years of retirement, an estimated 60% of former NBA players are broke.


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I agree it's a shame but hardly surprising, really - the number of people that have won incredible amounts in the lottery only to have little or none left after a very short time is a documented fact - if you don't know how to make money or at the least understand how to make what you have grow, the chances are very good that when you get any you will not have it for very long - not a big deal, just the way things are. Let's face it, if you don't respect the talent God gave you and find a way to make sure you can enjoy your retirement then there's really no need for you to have any money - here today and gone tomorrow if you don't respect the value of your money :lol:

One of the brighter financial guys once said that you could take all the money from the top 5% wealthiest people and give it all to the other 95% and the 5% would have it all back AND more in a matter of years solely because they understand how to make it and how to keep it :lol:
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One of the brighter financial guys once said that you could take all the money from the top 5% wealthiest people and give it all to the other 95% and the 5% would have it all back AND more in a matter of years solely because they understand how to make it and how to keep it



Sounds like the redistribution of wealth Obama and Administration is hoping for!!!
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I don't think many would consider that Obama or anyone in the present administration knows anything about how to manage anything fiscally - the socialistic approach by these guys is a little worrying to most I think and the financial impact of this medical fiasco is scary to say the least

The statement was made a little while ago and who actually said it escapes me now, but I will see if I can locate it

It is a terrible shame that the athletes of today get a lot of advice about how to maximise their contracts and their earnings but little to none about how to ensure there is anything left when they are not playing anymore

I think everyone knows what the unscrulous segments of society will do if they can be a part of some kids athletic talent and more should be done IMO to punish anyone who is giving kids money at the high school and college level. Iwould like to somehow make sure the kids know that no matter what they sign or commit to at the high school or college level, if someone gives them money and they turn them in - then the legal system should send that person or agent to jail
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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If they would simply invest safely, such as T-bills, or even just put the money in an interest bearing account, they would be set for life. When people come into a lot of money quickly, however, the temptation to live high on the hog is too great I suppose.
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Deadskins wrote:If they would simply invest safely, such as T-bills, or even just put the money in an interest bearing account, they would be set for life. When people come into a lot of money quickly, however, the temptation to live high on the hog is too great I suppose.


And who wants to invest in a boring, mundane "diversified portfolio" when this guy I know from high school guarantees a 35% annual return on his business idea! All he needs is $2 mil in start up capital. . .
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I have a hard time feeling sorry for athletes who just blow all their money. There's just no excuse for that.

First of all, the majority of pro athletes (and nearly ALL NFL athletes) have gone to college. When you know you're going pro you need to educate yourself somewhat on personal finance.

I am not rich, but when I graduated school and started working full time I read all I could on personal finance. Not that I am some high powered financial guru, but I know enough that I feel like I can put my money to work. The idea that a guy would be expecting that financial winfall and just do nothing proactive in understanding the responsibility involved is ridiculous.

At today's player salaries there's no reason even a mediocre player can't set up their family for several generations.
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A lot of these athletes aren't coming from backgrounds that lead by example OR teach on how to invest and save, even IF they go to skool and learn about it.
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Chris Luva Luva wrote:A lot of these athletes aren't coming from backgrounds that lead by example OR teach on how to invest and save, even IF they go to skool and learn about it.


And I suspect there's generally very little learning going on in some of those top football schools, anyway.
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Two old adages comes to mind.

"The more you make, the more you spend..."
"More money, more problems..."

Great find on this article.
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Irn-Bru wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:A lot of these athletes aren't coming from backgrounds that lead by example OR teach on how to invest and save, even IF they go to skool and learn about it.


And I suspect there's generally very little learning going on in some of those top football schools, anyway.


Sadly, you're both most likely very right.

Thanks for the link - interesting stuff.
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I wonder what does it mean that Ed Butowsky also does a bobblehead nod? Ed Butowsky Wealth Management
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If I'm the NFL I would require all players develop a financial plan, which would call for setting aside a certain % of their income and have it managed by investment professionals.
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Why is it the NFL's responsibility to help the players

The players understand what they are doing .... NOT :twisted:


there are many players that don't fall into financial ruin and those players that do have nobody to blame but themselves

nobody makes them make stupid decisions with their money
for the most part - they don't want anyone telling them what to do
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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SkinsJock wrote:Why is it the NFL's responsibility to help the players

The players understand what they are doing .... NOT :twisted:


there are many players that don't fall into financial ruin and those players that do have nobody to blame but themselves

nobody makes them make stupid decisions with their money
for the most part - they don't want anyone telling them what to do


These are young men who have no experience in dealing with large sums of money. They need help. Why not help them?
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SkinsJock wrote:Why is it the NFL's responsibility to help the players

The players understand what they are doing .... NOT :twisted:


there are many players that don't fall into financial ruin and those players that do have nobody to blame but themselves

nobody makes them make stupid decisions with their money
for the most part - they don't want anyone telling them what to do


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GoSkins wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:Why is it the NFL's responsibility to help the players

The players understand what they are doing .... NOT :twisted:


there are many players that don't fall into financial ruin and those players that do have nobody to blame but themselves

nobody makes them make stupid decisions with their money
for the most part - they don't want anyone telling them what to do


These are young men who have no experience in dealing with large sums of money. They need help. Why not help them?


There's a difference between offering to help and forcing them to do things. For the players incapable of handling the money, you can't solve the underlying problem by giving them homework they will resent and taking part of their paycheck away. They will squander the rest of what they make and then raid the retirement money with big penalties for withdrawing early.

I think it'd be a good idea for the NFL to develop its own set of index funds that it endorses and encourage players to contribute. They could show the historical growth of the funds and show players that their X million will turn into X+1 million by the time they retire, leaving them X hundred thousand a year to live on for the rest of their lives.

Education is the best way to fight this problem, but I think the NFL could do a little more in terms of official programs to help, too.
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Irn-Bru wrote:
GoSkins wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:Why is it the NFL's responsibility to help the players

The players understand what they are doing .... NOT :twisted:


there are many players that don't fall into financial ruin and those players that do have nobody to blame but themselves

nobody makes them make stupid decisions with their money
for the most part - they don't want anyone telling them what to do


These are young men who have no experience in dealing with large sums of money. They need help. Why not help them?


There's a difference between offering to help and forcing them to do things. For the players incapable of handling the money, you can't solve the underlying problem by giving them homework they will resent and taking part of their paycheck away. They will squander the rest of what they make and then raid the retirement money with big penalties for withdrawing early.

I think it'd be a good idea for the NFL to develop its own set of index funds that it endorses and encourage players to contribute. They could show the historical growth of the funds and show players that their X million will turn into X+1 million by the time they retire, leaving them X hundred thousand a year to live on for the rest of their lives.

Education is the best way to fight this problem, but I think the NFL could do a little more in terms of official programs to help, too.

A index fund would be cool but the players still need to know why they have more money down the road by investing in these funds or they'll continue to make the bad investments that they do now... Official Educational Programs seems like a good investment for the NFL & NFLPA
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Don'T get me wrong - I'd like to see the NFL help in any way it can

I just think that you have a lot of kids that have been dreaming about getting really rich off of the NFL
they are going to listen to their friends and family before they listen to their bosses


there are just so many examples of people that get a lot of money and have absolutely no idea of how to keep it
they will for the most part be given advice by people that are more interested in what's in it for them
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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SkinsJock wrote:Don'T get me wrong - I'd like to see the NFL help in any way it can

I just think that you have a lot of kids that have been dreaming about getting really rich off of the NFL
they are going to listen to their friends and family before they listen to their bosses


there are just so many examples of people that get a lot of money and have absolutely no idea of how to keep it
they will for the most part be given advice by people that are more interested in what's in it for them
That's why there should be a outside group that's available through their Bosses and approved by their Union but has know connection to either. It should be a option but not mandatory.
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There's no doubt the players need help adjusting and it's not all finanacial either

The players have to bear part of the brunt here but the NFLPA, the NFL and the veterans all aught to do a better job
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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