SKINS pick #6 in 2012 Draft....

[Paralis]

Bradford's contract has $20 million in gurantees over the next two years, so not only will he cost in players and picks but will eat up cap space on the team that he goes to. This normally doesn't happen, noramally the team that signed him would be on the hook for pro rated money (the Rams will be) and that was it. Bradford signed the last of the block busters and it'l cost both teams to much in a trade.

Oh, sure. I wasn't trying address the particulars, just the general point that if we're looking for a succinct statement of player value, "available for trade" says more than "former #1 pick" or "franchise qb" pretty much every time.

[frankcal20]

Bradford's worth about as much in trade right now as Brady Quinn was when the Broncos got him. It's the ultimate too-good-to-be-true offer, and this goes double for Sanchez--if he's on the block, it's because the people with the most access to him (Bradford or Sanchez) think he can't play.

Bradford's contract has $20 million in gurantees over the next two years, so not only will he cost in players and picks but will eat up cap space on the team that he goes to. This normally doesn't happen, noramally the team that signed him would be on the hook for pro rated money (the Rams will be) and that was it. Bradford signed the last of the block busters and it'l cost both teams to much in a trade.

I thought that his bonus was already paid out and his remaining salary was around $6-7m. Totally could be wrong.

[1niksder]

Not sure if you saw what he did today and vs NE last year but when he's played, he's been pretty good. If you're thinking like a General Manager, you have to be willing to look at all possibilities not just an open/shut case for RG3 or Luck.

If they could get Luck I'd agree there wouldn't be a need for Flynn or anyother FA out there... Luck ain't happening. I'm hopeful they can get Griffin III without giving too much up but they will NEED to sign a veteran free agent.

What are their option at QB even if they got lucky and grabbed RBIII

Currently they'll be guys like JC, McNabb, Brees, and Flynn that have started and won games out there. You can see why Flynn looks good, unless you want to re-sign the FA to be that's on the team now.

You know the one that started thirteen games this year and finished the season with 26 turnover OR they can stand pat with the only QB on the roster under contract for 2012, he did start 3 games this year.


Signing Flynn and getting him into OTAs would be a no brainer... he would be a short term solution nor could he be looked at as the QB of the future. Signing him would be filling a NEED.

But under the scenario you described the team most likely still keeps Rex. No team is going to go into camp with their main 2 qbs (Flynn and a rookie) having started a combined 2 NFL games.

If that rookie where RGIII I wouldn't have a problem with it, Laundry Jones could posible work if they went this route. The rookie selected will have a lot to do with weather this would work.

No Redkins team should ever go into another season with Rex on the roster after what he did this season. Explain to me how Flynn and a rookie with 2 games of live action is worst than going into a season with Rex AND Beck like they did this season.

Beck will be able to handle Rex's 2012 roll for the Redskins.... camp arm gone during final cuts

[1niksder]

Bradford's worth about as much in trade right now as Brady Quinn was when the Broncos got him. It's the ultimate too-good-to-be-true offer, and this goes double for Sanchez--if he's on the block, it's because the people with the most access to him (Bradford or Sanchez) think he can't play.

Bradford's contract has $20 million in gurantees over the next two years, so not only will he cost in players and picks but will eat up cap space on the team that he goes to. This normally doesn't happen, noramally the team that signed him would be on the hook for pro rated money (the Rams will be) and that was it. Bradford signed the last of the block busters and it'l cost both teas to much in a trade.

I thought that his bonus was already paid out and his remaining salary was around $6-7m. Totally could be wrong.

He was paid almost $30 Million in years 1 and 2, he hit escalators in the first years that gurantees him $12 million next year and another $9 million in 2013.

[Paralis]

If that rookie where RGIII I wouldn't have a problem with it, Laundry Jones could posible work if they went this route. The rookie selected will have a lot to do with weather this would work.

No Redkins team should ever go into another season with Rex on the roster after what he did this season. Explain to me how Flynn and a rookie with 2 games of live action is worst than going into a season with Rex AND Beck like they did this season.

Beck will be able to handle Rex's 2012 roll for the Redskins.... camp arm gone during final cuts

I see this said a lot and really don't understand it. Grossman wasn't a roster problem this year. Carrying only 2 QBs and having one of them be John Beck was. Grossman's a known quantity--an average player. He's the Keyaron Fox or Reed Doughty of QBs.

The Skins were crazy to only carry 2 QBs this year and they'll be crazy to do it again next year no matter who the starter unless the backup is a rookie who looks GREAT in camp. A lot of teams do worse than Grossman as a backup every year (see: Houston 2011) and as long as he's not a locker room problem, having 3 QBs, Flynn/Grossman/tbd rookie offers better upside and downside, immediately and into the future than what the Skins did in 2011 (namely: 9WRs).

Getting a young guy is crucial, but trading up to get RGIII or Luck isn't a sure thing. No rookie is, and awarding him #2 based on anything but his performances in practice/preseason is a recipe for failure. Rookie contracts are small enough now that even the top picks don't have to be played before they're ready. Better to make them earn it.

[CanesSkins26]

Not sure if you saw what he did today and vs NE last year but when he's played, he's been pretty good. If you're thinking like a General Manager, you have to be willing to look at all possibilities not just an open/shut case for RG3 or Luck.

If they could get Luck I'd agree there wouldn't be a need for Flynn or anyother FA out there... Luck ain't happening. I'm hopeful they can get Griffin III without giving too much up but they will NEED to sign a veteran free agent.

What are their option at QB even if they got lucky and grabbed RBIII

Currently they'll be guys like JC, McNabb, Brees, and Flynn that have started and won games out there. You can see why Flynn looks good, unless you want to re-sign the FA to be that's on the team now.

You know the one that started thirteen games this year and finished the season with 26 turnover OR they can stand pat with the only QB on the roster under contract for 2012, he did start 3 games this year.


Signing Flynn and getting him into OTAs would be a no brainer... he would be a short term solution nor could he be looked at as the QB of the future. Signing him would be filling a NEED.

But under the scenario you described the team most likely still keeps Rex. No team is going to go into camp with their main 2 qbs (Flynn and a rookie) having started a combined 2 NFL games.

If that rookie where RGIII I wouldn't have a problem with it, Laundry Jones could posible work if they went this route. The rookie selected will have a lot to do with weather this would work.

No Redkins team should ever go into another season with Rex on the roster after what he did this season. Explain to me how Flynn and a rookie with 2 games of live action is worst than going into a season with Rex AND Beck like they did this season.

Beck will be able to handle Rex's 2012 roll for the Redskins.... camp arm gone during final cuts

But free agency starts before the draft, so if they wanted to sign Flynn they would have to do that before they know who they will draft. Rex sucks, no doubt, I just don't think that the Shanahans would start the season with a qb with 2 career starts. Nobody really thought that Beck could be worse than Rex, but we all saw how that turned out.

[1niksder]

Not sure if you saw what he did today and vs NE last year but when he's played, he's been pretty good. If you're thinking like a General Manager, you have to be willing to look at all possibilities not just an open/shut case for RG3 or Luck.

If they could get Luck I'd agree there wouldn't be a need for Flynn or anyother FA out there... Luck ain't happening. I'm hopeful they can get Griffin III without giving too much up but they will NEED to sign a veteran free agent.

What are their option at QB even if they got lucky and grabbed RBIII

Currently they'll be guys like JC, McNabb, Brees, and Flynn that have started and won games out there. You can see why Flynn looks good, unless you want to re-sign the FA to be that's on the team now.

You know the one that started thirteen games this year and finished the season with 26 turnover OR they can stand pat with the only QB on the roster under contract for 2012, he did start 3 games this year.


Signing Flynn and getting him into OTAs would be a no brainer... he would be a short term solution nor could he be looked at as the QB of the future. Signing him would be filling a NEED.

But under the scenario you described the team most likely still keeps Rex. No team is going to go into camp with their main 2 qbs (Flynn and a rookie) having started a combined 2 NFL games.

If that rookie where RGIII I wouldn't have a problem with it, Laundry Jones could posible work if they went this route. The rookie selected will have a lot to do with weather this would work.

No Redkins team should ever go into another season with Rex on the roster after what he did this season. Explain to me how Flynn and a rookie with 2 games of live action is worst than going into a season with Rex AND Beck like they did this season.

Beck will be able to handle Rex's 2012 roll for the Redskins.... camp arm gone during final cuts

But free agency starts before the draft, so if they wanted to sign Flynn they would have to do that before they know who they will draft. Rex sucks, no doubt, I just don't think that the Shanahans would start the season with a qb with 2 career starts. Nobody really thought that Beck could be worse than Rex, but we all saw how that turned out.

I understand they would have to grab Flynn before the draft but will have idenfied the QB they want draft. We know what we got with Rex and we need not have any part of that in the future. Flynn can coming in to compete is what he wants to do, Shanny doesn't have to want him to be the starter to sign him.

[die cowboys die]

Flynn is going to want to be more or less assured he will be "the guy"/starter before he agrees to sign with any team, or at the very least, have a legitimate shot to be the long-term starter-- he won't want to sign with a team that intends to draft a QB high. now obviously if we want to sign him AND draft a QB high, we could lie to him and get him to sign anyway-- but that doesn't seem like a good way to operate, and if he ends up seeming like the better option as a long-term starter, it's not a good foundation for his relationship with the team/coach/organization.

[SkinsJock]

I see your point dcd ... Matt Flynn will go where the money is

If Mike & Bruce want him, he's coming here


not sure about his ability but he took full advantage of the opportunity - last year he also showed he might be OK

[SkinsJock]

Mike & Bruce will decide based on the QBs they can get NOT on what happened here with Grossman & Beck

we just might see Flynn as the starter here with Beck or Grossman and the draft pick - that's better than what we had


these guys know full well that their future depends on the QB situation here and it seems obvious

1 bring in a free agent QB

2 draft a QB

3 Beck or Grossman = Plan A
another free agent = Plan B


there will be a lot of focus and preparation for the QB position and this franchise will continue to improve

we are going to see more turnover on the offensive side of the ball this off season

[Red_One43]

Mike & Bruce will decide based on the QBs they can get NOT on what happened here with Grossman & Beck

we just might see Flynn as the starter here with Beck or Grossman and the draft pick - that's better than what we had


these guys know full well that their future depends on the QB situation here and it seems obvious

1 bring in a free agent QB

2 draft a QB

3 Beck or Grossman = Plan A
another free agent = Plan B


there will be a lot of focus and preparation for the QB position and this franchise will continue to improve

we are going to see more turnover on the offensive side of the ball this off season

On the Shanny Being Honest Thread, I just posted that I can see this possibility, but if you bring in Flynn, you have to sign him. Is there is any point in re-signing Rex if you sign Flynn? You have Beck under contract so he will be there through the off season as someone who knows the O.

Kyle said that they do not have to pursue a QB that knows the O, so I thik that you have a good case for this scenario. Because of his lack of arm strength, I cannot see Flynn as the long term answer to our QB problem, but drafting a rookie without giving up draft picks, but gaining draft picks because of a trade down (if there is a run on QBs again a trade down is unlikely), just might work.

[RayNAustin]

As impressive as Flynn looked, it's still just a couple of games from a 7th round draft pick running an offensive system he's had 4 years to learn and watch and emulate how Rodgers runs it. Or, more simply put ... it proves nothing really, other than the fact that his "monster game" puts him in the most valuable free agent category that will net him a huge contract for a still unproven and untested 7th round draft pick.

Could he be the next Tom Brady? Maybe. Would you bet your career on it?

I just don't think there is enough there to make a solid evaluation.

[SkinsJock]

Ray - Andrew Luck is going to be the best bet to be the future good QB here for years to come
I'd give up a lot for Luck - I just don't think that the Colts are going to make the deal

I'm not sure I'd give up much for Griffin - be interesting to see what Mike & Bruce think about him

The FA QB does not need to do much to give us a QB that can get the job done - the expectations should not be too high


Mike & Bruce WILL FIND a FA QB ... PLUS - they need to draft a QB for the future - otherwise ..... they are not here in 2013
I have confidence in them - I also understand where Canes and others are coming from

[SprintRightOption]

So I am watching the opening drive of the Stanford game and I thought I was watching the Redskins offense. Same formations. QB bootleg. Missed catch in the end zone and then a missed field Goal. Andrew Luck would be right at home for the Redskins....And now he throws a Pick. It's a sign from the football gods. He's the new Redskins QB!!!

[skinsfan#33]

Flynn is going to want to be more or less assured he will be "the guy"/starter before he agrees to sign with any team, or at the very least, have a legitimate shot to be the long-term starter-- he won't want to sign with a team that intends to draft a QB high. now obviously if we want to sign him AND draft a QB high, we could lie to him and get him to sign anyway-- but that doesn't seem like a good way to operate, and if he ends up seeming like the better option as a long-term starter, it's not a good foundation for his relationship with the team/coach/organization.

Yes, and the way you assure him he will be the starter you give him starter money. The Skins won't be able to get him on the cheep or even at a value that is reasonable, because some team is going to give Scott Mitchell, I mean Rob Johnson, or Matt Castle, or Kevin Kolb a HUGE contract.

Flynn is going to get a contract that assures him he is the starter! I can't see a way that MS and BA could structure a contract that would allow them to sign Flynn and draft a QB high.

Drafting a QB high commits you to that guy. Signing a FA QB to a huge contact commits you to that guy.

They can't do both.

[die cowboys die]

bringing them both in might actually be more financially feasible now than it has been in the past because of the new rookie pay-scale, but yeah i don't see it happening either.

[1niksder]

Flynn is going to want to be more or less assured he will be "the guy"/starter before he agrees to sign with any team, or at the very least, have a legitimate shot to be the long-term starter-- he won't want to sign with a team that intends to draft a QB high. now obviously if we want to sign him AND draft a QB high, we could lie to him and get him to sign anyway-- but that doesn't seem like a good way to operate, and if he ends up seeming like the better option as a long-term starter, it's not a good foundation for his relationship with the team/coach/organization.

Yes, and the way you assure him he will be the starter you give him starter money. The Skins won't be able to get him on the cheep or even at a value that is reasonable, because some team is going to give Scott Mitchell, I mean Rob Johnson, or Matt Castle, or Kevin Kolb a HUGE contract.

Flynn is going to get a contract that assures him he is the starter! I can't see a way that MS and BA could structure a contract that would allow them to sign Flynn and draft a QB high.

Drafting a QB high commits you to that guy. Signing a FA QB to a huge contact commits you to that guy.

They can't do both.

If they can't get him for low level starter money (Grossman got $810K + bonus money that pushed it to $1.5M) at the start of a 2-4 year deal (he only made $600K in 2011) he might sign looking at a roster that will only have Beck on it. Re-signing Rex would be a deal-breaker, but Beck and a posible rookie gives Flynn what he says he wants. Drafting RGIII after he signs is on him. If he wants to start he has to beat him out.

No QB will sign with the Skins if they come in demanding a starting role... if that upsets any of them then they should be mad at one Donnovan McNabb, for not being written in as the #1 just because of what they're asking price.

Drafting a QB high really isn't that much of a commitment under the new CBA, considering how things have changed.... Bradford was the last big money #1 pick under the old deal, (he got $78M over 6 years, $50M guaranteed... $29M+ has been paid and he has another $21M is guaranteed and due over the next 2 years), the first big money #1 pick under the new deal, (he got his whole 4 year deal guaranteed but will make less on his total deal than Bradford will make over the next 2 years).

They can do both because they will have the cap space to do pretty much whatever they want. We have to hope they stay the course. If a player wants to play for the Skins he'll have to compete for his spot, regardless of his pay. They just have to not just throw big money after a name and continue to throw reasonable money at players that fill needs.

I'm sure Flynn knows he hasn't done enough to demand anymore than a chance and a contract that says if I'm still here in two years and done this much I'll be paid like the starter should be.

[tribeofjudah]

Shanny might select a WR as the first pick of 2012....how about Blackmon from OSU....?

Mike Shanahan: "We've got to get a wide receiver that's a playmaker. You've got to have a No. 1, no question about it. We've got [Santana] Moss, and [Jabar] Gaffney, who's going to be right at 1,000 yards. But you're still looking for a guy that can go the distance and make plays, running on a short shallow cross and go the distance. Everybody's looking for that."

[skinsfan#33]

Shanny might select a WR as the first pick of 2012....how about Blackmon from OSU....?

Mike Shanahan: "We've got to get a wide receiver that's a playmaker. You've got to have a No. 1, no question about it. We've got [Santana] Moss, and [Jabar] Gaffney, who's going to be right at 1,000 yards. But you're still looking for a guy that can go the distance and make plays, running on a short shallow cross and go the distance. Everybody's looking for that."

He also at one time said there are certain positions you just don't commit much financially or draft wise to. While he didn't specially say WR he made that comment last year after someone asked him about drafting a WR or RB high.

He has proven he can find a RB on the cheap and he rarely drafts a wr high, but that doesn't mean he pick Blackmon.

The kid looks like a stud WR, but I would still puke if we took him at #6. Most people know my feelings about using a high draft pick (say the first half of the 1st round) on a WR. They just don't give you the bang for the buck.

[skinsfan#33]

Flynn is going to want to be more or less assured he will be "the guy"/starter before he agrees to sign with any team, or at the very least, have a legitimate shot to be the long-term starter-- he won't want to sign with a team that intends to draft a QB high. now obviously if we want to sign him AND draft a QB high, we could lie to him and get him to sign anyway-- but that doesn't seem like a good way to operate, and if he ends up seeming like the better option as a long-term starter, it's not a good foundation for his relationship with the team/coach/organization.

Yes, and the way you assure him he will be the starter you give him starter money. The Skins won't be able to get him on the cheep or even at a value that is reasonable, because some team is going to give Scott Mitchell, I mean Rob Johnson, or Matt Castle, or Kevin Kolb a HUGE contract.

Flynn is going to get a contract that assures him he is the starter! I can't see a way that MS and BA could structure a contract that would allow them to sign Flynn and draft a QB high.

Drafting a QB high commits you to that guy. Signing a FA QB to a huge contact commits you to that guy.

They can't do both.

If they can't get him for low level starter money (Grossman got $810K + bonus money that pushed it to $1.5M) at the start of a 2-4 year deal (he only made $600K in 2011) he might sign looking at a roster that will only have Beck on it. Re-signing Rex would be a deal-breaker, but Beck and a posible rookie gives Flynn what he says he wants. Drafting RGIII after he signs is on him. If he wants to start he has to beat him out.

No QB will sign with the Skins if they come in demanding a starting role... if that upsets any of them then they should be mad at one Donnovan McNabb, for not being written in as the #1 just because of what they're asking price.

Drafting a QB high really isn't that much of a commitment under the new CBA, considering how things have changed.... Bradford was the last big money #1 pick under the old deal, (he got $78M over 6 years, $50M guaranteed... $29M+ has been paid and he has another $21M is guaranteed and due over the next 2 years), the first big money #1 pick under the new deal, (he got his whole 4 year deal guaranteed but will make less on his total deal than Bradford will make over the next 2 years).

They can do both because they will have the cap space to do pretty much whatever they want. We have to hope they stay the course. If a player wants to play for the Skins he'll have to compete for his spot, regardless of his pay. They just have to not just throw big money after a name and continue to throw reasonable money at players that fill needs.

I'm sure Flynn knows he hasn't done enough to demand anymore than a chance and a contract that says if I'm still here in two years and done this much I'll be paid like the starter should be.

Weather Flynn has done enough or not to warrant a starters sallery he will get it. It won't be low stater money either. Kolb got huge contract w/o doing anything to earn it. So did Scott Mitchell, Rob Johnson, and many other backup QBs that had a few good games right before they became available.

When I was referring to drafting a QB at six as a commitment that forces you to start that guy I wasn't even talking about his contract. Any player we take at #6 has to be a starter REAL SOON in 2012.

[CanesSkins26]

Flynn is going to want to be more or less assured he will be "the guy"/starter before he agrees to sign with any team, or at the very least, have a legitimate shot to be the long-term starter-- he won't want to sign with a team that intends to draft a QB high. now obviously if we want to sign him AND draft a QB high, we could lie to him and get him to sign anyway-- but that doesn't seem like a good way to operate, and if he ends up seeming like the better option as a long-term starter, it's not a good foundation for his relationship with the team/coach/organization.

Yes, and the way you assure him he will be the starter you give him starter money. The Skins won't be able to get him on the cheep or even at a value that is reasonable, because some team is going to give Scott Mitchell, I mean Rob Johnson, or Matt Castle, or Kevin Kolb a HUGE contract.

Flynn is going to get a contract that assures him he is the starter! I can't see a way that MS and BA could structure a contract that would allow them to sign Flynn and draft a QB high.

Drafting a QB high commits you to that guy. Signing a FA QB to a huge contact commits you to that guy.

They can't do both.

If they can't get him for low level starter money (Grossman got $810K + bonus money that pushed it to $1.5M) at the start of a 2-4 year deal (he only made $600K in 2011) he might sign looking at a roster that will only have Beck on it. Re-signing Rex would be a deal-breaker, but Beck and a posible rookie gives Flynn what he says he wants. Drafting RGIII after he signs is on him. If he wants to start he has to beat him out.

No QB will sign with the Skins if they come in demanding a starting role... if that upsets any of them then they should be mad at one Donnovan McNabb, for not being written in as the #1 just because of what they're asking price.

Drafting a QB high really isn't that much of a commitment under the new CBA, considering how things have changed.... Bradford was the last big money #1 pick under the old deal, (he got $78M over 6 years, $50M guaranteed... $29M+ has been paid and he has another $21M is guaranteed and due over the next 2 years), the first big money #1 pick under the new deal, (he got his whole 4 year deal guaranteed but will make less on his total deal than Bradford will make over the next 2 years).

They can do both because they will have the cap space to do pretty much whatever they want. We have to hope they stay the course. If a player wants to play for the Skins he'll have to compete for his spot, regardless of his pay. They just have to not just throw big money after a name and continue to throw reasonable money at players that fill needs.

I'm sure Flynn knows he hasn't done enough to demand anymore than a chance and a contract that says if I'm still here in two years and done this much I'll be paid like the starter should be.

Weather Flynn has done enough or not to warrant a starters sallery he will get it. It won't be low stater money either. Kolb got huge contract w/o doing anything to earn it. So did Scott Mitchell, Rob Johnson, and many other backup QBs that had a few good games right before they became available.

When I was referring to drafting a QB at six as a commitment that forces you to start that guy I wasn't even talking about his contract. Any player we take at #6 has to be a starter REAL SOON in 2012.

I agree. Even Charlie Whitehurst, when he was traded to the Seahawks got a 2 year, $8 million contract with up to $2 million more in incentives, and he had thrown zero career regular season passes in 4 years at that point.

[1niksder]

Weather Flynn has done enough or not to warrant a starters sallery he will get it. It won't be low stater money either. Kolb got huge contract w/o doing anything to earn it. So did Scott Mitchell, Rob Johnson, and many other backup QBs that had a few good games right before they became available.

When I was referring to drafting a QB at six as a commitment that forces you to start that guy I wasn't even talking about his contract. Any player we take at #6 has to be a starter REAL SOON in 2012.

I agree. Even Charlie Whitehurst, when he was traded to the Seahawks got a 2 year, $8 million contract with up to $2 million more in incentives, and he had thrown zero career regular season passes in 4 years at that point.

Rob Johnson and Scott Mitchell are going so far back we aren't even talking about the same NFL. Kolb was traded for with one year left on his deal, the Cards choice to give him that deal. The Redskins have traded for a few players in the last year of of their contracts (see Tim Hightower), oddly Beck is the only guy to get extended under this situations.

As far as Whitehurst goes that too was a trade and again that's on the Team Management they over paid in a panic... they needed help and a lockout was coming. This front office has only done that once since coming here. Whitehurst was a mistake and it was corrected in the one way you guys say won't happen.


The Seahawks overpaid for Whitehurst, then signed the hot free agent QB on the market (Tim Hasselbeck) then spent a top ten pick on a top rated rookie QB (Jake Locker). The big money guy rode the pine, the vet FA wasn't overpaid to sign and won the starting job, and the top ten pick barely saw the field and will compete for the starting role in 2012.

[CanesSkins26]

Weather Flynn has done enough or not to warrant a starters sallery he will get it. It won't be low stater money either. Kolb got huge contract w/o doing anything to earn it. So did Scott Mitchell, Rob Johnson, and many other backup QBs that had a few good games right before they became available.

When I was referring to drafting a QB at six as a commitment that forces you to start that guy I wasn't even talking about his contract. Any player we take at #6 has to be a starter REAL SOON in 2012.

I agree. Even Charlie Whitehurst, when he was traded to the Seahawks got a 2 year, $8 million contract with up to $2 million more in incentives, and he had thrown zero career regular season passes in 4 years at that point.

Rob Johnson and Scott Mitchell are going so far back we aren't even talking about the same NFL. Kolb was traded for with one year left on his deal, the Cards choice to give him that deal. The Redskins have traded for a few players in the last year of of their contracts (see Tim Hightower), oddly Beck is the only guy to get extended under this situations.

As far as Whitehurst goes that too was a trade and again that's on the Team Management they over paid in a panic... they needed help and a lockout was coming. This front office has only done that once since coming here. Whitehurst was a mistake and it was corrected in the one way you guys say won't happen.


The Seahawks overpaid for Whitehurst, then signed the hot free agent QB on the market (Tim Hasselbeck) then spent a top ten pick on a top rated rookie QB (Jake Locker). The big money guy rode the pine, the vet FA wasn't overpaid to sign and won the starting job, and the top ten pick barely saw the field and will compete for the starting role in 2012.

I think you might be mixing up teams. Whitehurst is on the Seahwaks, but it was the Titans that drafted Locker. Following the Whitehurst trade and contract extension the Seahawks are still looking for a qb.

[welch]

(I predict that this topic will be beaten like the most irritating drum until the draft is finished. There will come a time, I thinkm, when we will be throwing rotten eggs and tomatoes at anyone who mentions it.)

[jr_uscg]

Sign Flynn and trade back in the draft like we did last year. We have to many holes to fill. Gotta go with youth.