SKINS pick #6 in 2012 Draft....

[tribeofjudah]

REVISED TO PICK #6.....PREVIOUSLY #7


This according to Shefty:

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Projected draft order as of today: 1. Colts; 2. Rams; 3. Vikes; 4. Browns; 5. Jags; 6. Bucs; 7. Redskins; 8. Dolphins; 9. Panthers; 10.Bills

So let the Pontification and Hognostication begin....!!!

[1niksder]

This according to Shefty:

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Projected draft order as of today: 1. Colts; 2. Rams; 3. Vikes; 4. Browns; 5. Jags; 6. Bucs; 7. Redskins; 8. Dolphins; 9. Panthers; 10.Bills

So let the Pontification and Hognostication begin....!!!

There is still one week left, so this can all change next week.

That being said the schedule doesn't look like there will be much movement. Looking at the other nine teams on the list I can see 8 of the nine teams losing next week. So it'll come down to two games...

Let say the Skins beat Philthy and move to 6-10 and the Colts beat the Jags. That would drop the Skins to the 8th spot and the Colts to #2.

The Rams would move to #1 and Miami would would move up to #7

The Rams will trade the first pick to the highest bidder and most of the team ahead of the Skins will at least look at drafting a QB, the Bucs, Vikes and maybe the Jags will look at something other than QB. Then again the Jags may have to use a first rd pick on a QB in back to back years. Throw in the Colts if Manning isn't ready to go and that's four QB needed teams ahead of Washington.

If the Skins lose and the Jags win the Redskins will move up to the 6th spot but that's still 3 teams ahead of the Skins that may want to select a QB.

Best outcome would be for the Browns, Jags, and Bucs to all win and the Skins lose. That would have the Rams at #1, Colts second the Vikings 3rd and Washinton in the forth spot, that still two teams ahead of the Skins looking at QBs and the Rams having a auction.

Who will be available at QB is still a mystery so it's hard to say what any team will do.

Under these circumstances I'd rather see the Skins when and let the cards fall where they may. If they don't have a fiable option at QB then go O-line or trade down for more picks. If Jones and RGIII both come out the cost of moving up should go down but one of them may be available at seven or eight. If a QB they like doesn't fall to then there then they should go BPA

[Red_One43]

This according to Shefty:

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Projected draft order as of today: 1. Colts; 2. Rams; 3. Vikes; 4. Browns; 5. Jags; 6. Bucs; 7. Redskins; 8. Dolphins; 9. Panthers; 10.Bills

So let the Pontification and Hognostication begin....!!!

There is still one week left, so this can all change next week.

That being said the schedule doesn't look like there will be much movement. Looking at the other nine teams on the list I can see 8 of the nine teams losing next week. So it'll come down to two games...

Let say the Skins beat Philthy and move to 6-10 and the Colts beat the Jags. That would drop the Skins to the 8th spot and the Colts to #2.

The Rams would move to #1 and Miami would would move up to #7

The Rams will trade the first pick to the highest bidder and most of the team ahead of the Skins will at least look at drafting a QB, the Bucs, Vikes and maybe the Jags will look at something other than QB. Then again the Jags may have to use a first rd pick on a QB in back to back years. Throw in the Colts if Manning isn't ready to go and that's four QB needed teams ahead of Washington.

If the Skins lose and the Jags win the Redskins will move up to the 6th spot but that's still 3 teams ahead of the Skins that may want to select a QB.

Best outcome would be for the Browns, Jags, and Bucs to all win and the Skins lose. That would have the Rams at #1, Colts second the Vikings 3rd and Washinton in the forth spot, that still two teams ahead of the Skins looking at QBs and the Rams having a auction.

Who will be available at QB is still a mystery so it's hard to say what any team will do.

Under these circumstances I'd rather see the Skins when and let the cards fall where they may. If they don't have a fiable option at QB then go O-line or trade down for more picks. If Jones and RGIII both come out the cost of moving up should go down but one of them may be available at seven or eight. If a QB they like doesn't fall to then there then they should go BPA

I am with you about rather the Redskins winning against Philly, but after watching Philly against Dallas yesterday and manhandling the Jets last week. I think that will be 5-11 after next week.

Jags and Colts play next week so I am hoping for the Jags to lose. I think that we are better off with the Rams having the #1. That's assuming we want to make a play for Luck.

[SkinsJock]

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Under these circumstances I'd rather see the Skins win and let the cards fall where they may. If they don't have a viable option at QB then go O-line or trade down for more picks. If Jones and RGIII both come out the cost of moving up should go down but one of them may be available at seven or eight.
If a QB they like doesn't fall to them there - then they should go BPA

finally .... someone shows some sense here

thanks 1niksder

[Red_One43]

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Under these circumstances I'd rather see the Skins win and let the cards fall where they may. If they don't have a viable option at QB then go O-line or trade down for more picks. If Jones and RGIII both come out the cost of moving up should go down but one of them may be available at seven or eight.
If a QB they like doesn't fall to them there - then they should go BPA

finally .... someone shows some sense here

thanks 1niksder

If Shanny wants a QB, he counts the costs (smart FO as you say) and then he pulls the trigger if the costs are reasonable. Shanny had the 15th pick trade up for the 11th by giving up the 15th and 68th. He gets Cutler. Another example, he wanted McNabb, he counted the costs (smart FO) and pulled the trigger, gives up a 2nd and I believe ends up being a 4th. We get McNabb. Didn't work out, but, at the time, the costs seem reasonble. 2010 draft rumors are, Shanny wanted Bradford, he counted the costs (smart FO), he didn't pull the trigger cost too much.

This is history, factual if the Bradford rumor is true.

On one hand you say that you trust this FO, but when you look at this FO's history, they have been willing to trade draft picks for good QBs proven or good potential. This FO has been willing to explore trading up to get a good potential starter in Bradford. It stands to reason that when QBs with great potential come along like Luck or RGIII, assuming that this FO likes either or both, they would, at the very least, explore that possibilty and if the costs turn out to be acceptable to the FO that you trust, they would indeed pull that trigger and make that trade. If the costs are too high, then just like in 2010, they go about another plan on the books which history shows ended up being O line.

So right now, I believe that thie FO has a lot of QB plans on their board and they didn't start a couple of days ago. It started year, when McNabb didn't work out and continued when they only signed Grossman to one year for back up QB pay.

[Manchester_Redskin]

The only certainity about picking 7th is that there are 6 opportunities for someone else to trade up and steal the QB that you are after

[Redskin in Canada]

Lets watch:

Dec. 29 Valero Alamo Bowl Baylor vs. Washington

and

Jan. 2 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl Oklahoma State vs. Stanford

Everybody interested in the Draft will ...

[1niksder]

The only certainity about picking 7th is that there are 6 opportunities for someone else to trade up and steal the QB that you are after

Or six opportunities move up and get the QB they want before someone else does

[CajunSkin]

I'm not a fan of trading up. However if they do and draft a qb whO turns out to be a superstar, I will be. Lol. That's just being completely honest. Otherwise if Luck and RGIII are off the board which will most likely be the case, I'm satisfied to trade down. Get a couple of stud linemen and go with a later round QB. I love the kid from Wisconsin Russell Wilson. As far as scouting reports go his only real knock is his height. If it weren't for a few inches he'd probably be a middle 1st early 2nd.

[SkinsJock]

there will be a few franchises looking at trading up - that means the trade 'value' get's driven up too

I FULLY understand what Ray and Red_One are advocating - getting Luck would be huge for the Redskins .. but it will be costly



I can see Danny Snyder getting excited about this kind of deal and that makes me VERY worried too




reality is that no matter who is brought in to start here - we do need to draft a QB = 2 QBs that are not here now

these guys understand that their chances of staying here depend on them not screwing up on either of them


I'll admit, I could see them blowing the picks to get Andrew Luck AND getting Snyder on side for that

it's going to be interesting

[skinsfan#33]

Need to change the.title of this thread.

Skins pick sixth

[tribeofjudah]

Need to change the.title of this thread.

Skins pick sixth

Hahaha.....ok will do

[frankcal20]

With the 6th pick, the Redskins trade down, pick up several more picks. Draft Tanahill in the 2nd round and sign Matt Flynn in the offseason.

[CanesSkins26]

With the 6th pick, the Redskins trade down, pick up several more picks. Draft Tanahill in the 2nd round and sign Matt Flynn in the offseason.

I'll take that scenario because it'll result in Shanahan getting canned after next year.

[1niksder]

With the 6th pick, the Redskins trade down, pick up several more picks. Draft Tanahill in the 2nd round and sign Matt Flynn in the offseason.

I'll take that scenario because it'll result in Shanahan getting canned after next year.

What's wrong with signing a up and coming young free agent and drafting rookie project that's older than the free agent

[Red_One43]

With the 6th pick, the Redskins trade down, pick up several more picks. Draft Tanahill in the 2nd round and sign Matt Flynn in the offseason.

If you sign Matt Flynn, who is 27. Why do you spend an early round pick on a QB when you have so many other holes to fill? Grossman can fill the back up role.

[CanesSkins26]

With the 6th pick, the Redskins trade down, pick up several more picks. Draft Tanahill in the 2nd round and sign Matt Flynn in the offseason.

I'll take that scenario because it'll result in Shanahan getting canned after next year.

What's wrong with signing a up and coming young free agent and drafting rookie project that's older than the free agent

Flynn's not up and coming. He's a weak armed qb that isn't particularly athletic. If he was our qb this year we'd still be a below .500 team. We don't need anymore "projects" or guys to develop, we need to invest in a big-time college prospect or it's going to more of the same here. Flynn isn't a short-term or long-term solution, unless we need someone to hold a clipboard.

[frankcal20]

Not sure if you saw what he did today and vs NE last year but when he's played, he's been pretty good. If you're thinking like a General Manager, you have to be willing to look at all possibilities not just an open/shut case for RG3 or Luck.

[CanesSkins26]

Not sure if you saw what he did today and vs NE last year but when he's played, he's been pretty good. If you're thinking like a General Manager, you have to be willing to look at all possibilities not just an open/shut case for RG3 or Luck.

I saw today's game. It's one game, nothing more. Flynn's being way overrated because of two good games. How about the game BEFORE the New England game last year? No so Impressive. Flynn's arm makes Rex's look like a cannon. We need a real solution at qb, not taking on Flynn and a project.

[frankcal20]

What is your choice outside of the top two and Landry not coming out?

[SprintRightOption]

Sources on ESPN say that St. Louis will fire head coach Spagnola. This will have a big impact on who they choose in the draft. I bet now they stick with Bradford.

[Paralis]

Bradford's worth about as much in trade right now as Brady Quinn was when the Broncos got him. It's the ultimate too-good-to-be-true offer, and this goes double for Sanchez--if he's on the block, it's because the people with the most access to him (Bradford or Sanchez) think he can't play.

[1niksder]

Not sure if you saw what he did today and vs NE last year but when he's played, he's been pretty good. If you're thinking like a General Manager, you have to be willing to look at all possibilities not just an open/shut case for RG3 or Luck.

If they could get Luck I'd agree there wouldn't be a need for Flynn or anyother FA out there... Luck ain't happening. I'm hopeful they can get Griffin III without giving too much up but they will NEED to sign a veteran free agent.

What are their option at QB even if they got lucky and grabbed RBIII

Currently they'll be guys like JC, McNabb, Brees, and Flynn that have started and won games out there. You can see why Flynn looks good, unless you want to re-sign the FA to be that's on the team now.

You know the one that started thirteen games this year and finished the season with 26 turnover OR they can stand pat with the only QB on the roster under contract for 2012, he did start 3 games this year.


Signing Flynn and getting him into OTAs would be a no brainer... he would be a short term solution nor could he be looked at as the QB of the future. Signing him would be filling a NEED.

[CanesSkins26]

Not sure if you saw what he did today and vs NE last year but when he's played, he's been pretty good. If you're thinking like a General Manager, you have to be willing to look at all possibilities not just an open/shut case for RG3 or Luck.

If they could get Luck I'd agree there wouldn't be a need for Flynn or anyother FA out there... Luck ain't happening. I'm hopeful they can get Griffin III without giving too much up but they will NEED to sign a veteran free agent.

What are their option at QB even if they got lucky and grabbed RBIII

Currently they'll be guys like JC, McNabb, Brees, and Flynn that have started and won games out there. You can see why Flynn looks good, unless you want to re-sign the FA to be that's on the team now.

You know the one that started thirteen games this year and finished the season with 26 turnover OR they can stand pat with the only QB on the roster under contract for 2012, he did start 3 games this year.


Signing Flynn and getting him into OTAs would be a no brainer... he would be a short term solution nor could he be looked at as the QB of the future. Signing him would be filling a NEED.

But under the scenario you described the team most likely still keeps Rex. No team is going to go into camp with their main 2 qbs (Flynn and a rookie) having started a combined 2 NFL games.

[1niksder]

Bradford's worth about as much in trade right now as Brady Quinn was when the Broncos got him. It's the ultimate too-good-to-be-true offer, and this goes double for Sanchez--if he's on the block, it's because the people with the most access to him (Bradford or Sanchez) think he can't play.

Bradford's contract has $20 million in gurantees over the next two years, so not only will he cost in players and picks but will eat up cap space on the team that he goes to. This normally doesn't happen, noramally the team that signed him would be on the hook for pro rated money (the Rams will be) and that was it. Bradford signed the last of the block busters and it'l cost both teams to much in a trade.