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2012 Draft & Free Agency
It's never too early for the Redskins Nation to look ahead to next season. Here is my list of acquisitions that I believe the Skins should make between FA and the NFL Draft. What are yours?
Free Agent Signings
Carl Nicks
OG
Saints
6'5 343
26 yrs
Nicks is a young, powerful, Pro Bowl OG who is athletic and surprisingly agile for a big guy. He is a definite upgrade at either guard spot, but more importantly, it gives the Redskins the luxury of quality depth. Between Nicks, Chester, and Lichtensteiger, the Skins would beef up their entire line depth and also have the chance to bring Kory back slowly coming off of his injury.
Vincent Jackson
WR
Chargers
6'5
29 yrs
Jackson is 29 yrs old, but he has (i) kept in great condition and (ii) sat out most of the prior year on a contract dispute. He should be able to be had at a cheaper cost--due to his age--than Dwayne Bowe who is also a FA WR next year. I was in favor of drafting Jackson, but we passed. He's a big, fast receiver who runs good routes, gets himself open, and is a much need force in the Red Zone. Pairing him on the outside, with Moss in the slot, and Hankerson at the other edge would give the Redskins a much more formidable WR rotation and adds to the team's depth. Guys like Austin, Armstrong etc should compete for backup jobs which is what those guys are on any other team. Dwayne Bowe would also be a quality pickup, but at age 27, he will likely command a more expensive deal.
NFL Draft
Round 1
Matt Barkley
QB USC
Athletic, accurate QB who excels in USC's pro-style offense. While RG3 might move ahead of him on Draft Boards, I believe that Barkley fits our offense better. In fact, I don't see another QB--other than Luck--who would be as good a fit as Barkley. He's a confident guy who has all of the tools to be a franchise QB. He has a canon for an arm, good mechanics & footwork, and is mobile enough to make plays with his legs. If he's there, I think this is a no-brainer. He plays like a cross between D. Brees & Elway (albeit in college). I think he will be a great pro for years to come in Washington.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzaAkdFavnA
Round 2
Jayron Hosley
CB VA Tech
Hosley had 9 picks as a sophomore, and followed that up with a great junior season too. He may not be there when we pick in 2, but if he is, he's a steal. He's a physical corner who is explosive and agile in coverage. Having him in the rotation would be a huge upgrade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4yWAOqviFY
Remainder of Draft
Impossible to predict but I would use the rest of the draft to acquire youth at OL, ILB, S & CB.
I would re-sign Fred Davis, Fletcher & Laron Landry. Even with these moves, I think the Skins still finish around .500. But, we would have something real to build on going into the future. Chances are V Jackson wouldn't want to come here. If that is the case, Bowe may be a solution. But, we need a good receiver on the outside if we are going to run Kyle's offense.
Free Agent Signings
Carl Nicks
OG
Saints
6'5 343
26 yrs
Nicks is a young, powerful, Pro Bowl OG who is athletic and surprisingly agile for a big guy. He is a definite upgrade at either guard spot, but more importantly, it gives the Redskins the luxury of quality depth. Between Nicks, Chester, and Lichtensteiger, the Skins would beef up their entire line depth and also have the chance to bring Kory back slowly coming off of his injury.
Vincent Jackson
WR
Chargers
6'5
29 yrs
Jackson is 29 yrs old, but he has (i) kept in great condition and (ii) sat out most of the prior year on a contract dispute. He should be able to be had at a cheaper cost--due to his age--than Dwayne Bowe who is also a FA WR next year. I was in favor of drafting Jackson, but we passed. He's a big, fast receiver who runs good routes, gets himself open, and is a much need force in the Red Zone. Pairing him on the outside, with Moss in the slot, and Hankerson at the other edge would give the Redskins a much more formidable WR rotation and adds to the team's depth. Guys like Austin, Armstrong etc should compete for backup jobs which is what those guys are on any other team. Dwayne Bowe would also be a quality pickup, but at age 27, he will likely command a more expensive deal.
NFL Draft
Round 1
Matt Barkley
QB USC
Athletic, accurate QB who excels in USC's pro-style offense. While RG3 might move ahead of him on Draft Boards, I believe that Barkley fits our offense better. In fact, I don't see another QB--other than Luck--who would be as good a fit as Barkley. He's a confident guy who has all of the tools to be a franchise QB. He has a canon for an arm, good mechanics & footwork, and is mobile enough to make plays with his legs. If he's there, I think this is a no-brainer. He plays like a cross between D. Brees & Elway (albeit in college). I think he will be a great pro for years to come in Washington.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzaAkdFavnA
Round 2
Jayron Hosley
CB VA Tech
Hosley had 9 picks as a sophomore, and followed that up with a great junior season too. He may not be there when we pick in 2, but if he is, he's a steal. He's a physical corner who is explosive and agile in coverage. Having him in the rotation would be a huge upgrade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4yWAOqviFY
Remainder of Draft
Impossible to predict but I would use the rest of the draft to acquire youth at OL, ILB, S & CB.
I would re-sign Fred Davis, Fletcher & Laron Landry. Even with these moves, I think the Skins still finish around .500. But, we would have something real to build on going into the future. Chances are V Jackson wouldn't want to come here. If that is the case, Bowe may be a solution. But, we need a good receiver on the outside if we are going to run Kyle's offense.
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Re: 2012 Draft & Free Agency
The Hogster wrote:It's never too early for the Redskins Nation to look ahead to next season. Here is my list of acquisitions that I believe the Skins should make between FA and the NFL Draft. What are yours?
Free Agent Signings
Carl Nicks
OG
Saints
6'5 343
26 yrs
Nicks is a young, powerful, Pro Bowl OG who is athletic and surprisingly agile for a big guy. He is a definite upgrade at either guard spot, but more importantly, it gives the Redskins the luxury of quality depth. Between Nicks, Chester, and Lichtensteiger, the Skins would beef up their entire line depth and also have the chance to bring Kory back slowly coming off of his injury.
Vincent Jackson
WR
Chargers
6'5
29 yrs
Jackson is 29 yrs old, but he has (i) kept in great condition and (ii) sat out most of the prior year on a contract dispute. He should be able to be had at a cheaper cost--due to his age--than Dwayne Bowe who is also a FA WR next year. I was in favor of drafting Jackson, but we passed. He's a big, fast receiver who runs good routes, gets himself open, and is a much need force in the Red Zone. Pairing him on the outside, with Moss in the slot, and Hankerson at the other edge would give the Redskins a much more formidable WR rotation and adds to the team's depth. Guys like Austin, Armstrong etc should compete for backup jobs which is what those guys are on any other team. Dwayne Bowe would also be a quality pickup, but at age 27, he will likely command a more expensive deal.
NFL Draft
Round 1
Matt Barkley
QB USC
Athletic, accurate QB who excels in USC's pro-style offense. While RG3 might move ahead of him on Draft Boards, I believe that Barkley fits our offense better. In fact, I don't see another QB--other than Luck--who would be as good a fit as Barkley. He's a confident guy who has all of the tools to be a franchise QB. He has a canon for an arm, good mechanics & footwork, and is mobile enough to make plays with his legs. If he's there, I think this is a no-brainer. He plays like a cross between D. Brees & Elway (albeit in college). I think he will be a great pro for years to come in Washington.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzaAkdFavnA
Round 2
Jayron Hosley
CB VA Tech
Hosley had 9 picks as a sophomore, and followed that up with a great junior season too. He may not be there when we pick in 2, but if he is, he's a steal. He's a physical corner who is explosive and agile in coverage. Having him in the rotation would be a huge upgrade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4yWAOqviFY
Remainder of Draft
Impossible to predict but I would use the rest of the draft to acquire youth at OL, ILB, S & CB.
I would re-sign Fred Davis, Fletcher & Laron Landry. Even with these moves, I think the Skins still finish around .500. But, we would have something real to build on going into the future. Chances are V Jackson wouldn't want to come here. If that is the case, Bowe may be a solution. But, we need a good receiver on the outside if we are going to run Kyle's offense.
I agree with all of that, except for Hosley. Depending on our cap situation I'd like to make a run at Dwayne Bowe, but Jackson would be a good addition too.
Hosley, though, is so incredibly overrated. He is similar to Hall in that he makes the occasional big play and gets lots of hype for that, but gets beat like a drum far too often in coverage. I've just about every game of his this year and haven't been at all impressed. If you watch the Tech games against Miami and the two against Clemson, but teams were actually going after him, and had success doing it.
In the second round for corner I'd look at Janoris Jenkins, who seems to have gotten himself straightened out, or Chase Minnifield from UVA.
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Burgundy&Wha? wrote:Minnifield will be gone in the first, likely.
I'd stay away from Hokie corners.
He very well could be. It's looking like a pretty deep CB draft though, assuming that some of these juniors declare, so we could get a pretty solid CB in the second round if we go that route.
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I would love if we got Barkley with our 1st pick. If he's not there I'll take RGIII. I am not a Landry Jones fan, so if neither Barkley nor RGIII is there, I trade back. In the 2nd round I would go after that guy Barron, the saftey from Alabama. He is a solid tackler and a good ball hawk. I would let Landry walk. I know a lot of you will disagree, but Laron is extremely overrated in my book. He's hurt way too much for my liking, and does not make any plays in the passing game when healthy. If Barron is not there, I take the best C or OG available, hopefully, Kontz (WISC), Brewster (OHST), or Zeitler (WISC). 3rd round, I would look for maybe a homerun hitter on offense, either a speedster WR or RB. LeMichael James woul be ideal if he slips because of his size. After that, depth depth depth, particularly on the O-line & secondary. I am not familiar with who will be a FA this off-season, but if we can get O-line or WR help it would be a plus.
Re: 2012 Draft & Free Agency
The Hogster wrote:It's never too early for the Redskins Nation to look ahead to next season. Here is my list of acquisitions that I believe the Skins should make between FA and the NFL Draft. What are yours?
Free Agent Signings
Carl Nicks
OG
Saints
6'5 343
26 yrs
Nicks is a young, powerful, Pro Bowl OG who is athletic and surprisingly agile for a big guy. He is a definite upgrade at either guard spot, but more importantly, it gives the Redskins the luxury of quality depth. Between Nicks, Chester, and Lichtensteiger, the Skins would beef up their entire line depth and also have the chance to bring Kory back slowly coming off of his injury.
Vincent Jackson
WR
Chargers
6'5
29 yrs
Jackson is 29 yrs old, but he has (i) kept in great condition and (ii) sat out most of the prior year on a contract dispute. He should be able to be had at a cheaper cost--due to his age--than Dwayne Bowe who is also a FA WR next year. I was in favor of drafting Jackson, but we passed. He's a big, fast receiver who runs good routes, gets himself open, and is a much need force in the Red Zone. Pairing him on the outside, with Moss in the slot, and Hankerson at the other edge would give the Redskins a much more formidable WR rotation and adds to the team's depth. Guys like Austin, Armstrong etc should compete for backup jobs which is what those guys are on any other team. Dwayne Bowe would also be a quality pickup, but at age 27, he will likely command a more expensive deal.
NFL Draft
Round 1
Matt Barkley
QB USC
Athletic, accurate QB who excels in USC's pro-style offense. While RG3 might move ahead of him on Draft Boards, I believe that Barkley fits our offense better. In fact, I don't see another QB--other than Luck--who would be as good a fit as Barkley. He's a confident guy who has all of the tools to be a franchise QB. He has a canon for an arm, good mechanics & footwork, and is mobile enough to make plays with his legs. If he's there, I think this is a no-brainer. He plays like a cross between D. Brees & Elway (albeit in college). I think he will be a great pro for years to come in Washington.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzaAkdFavnA
Round 2
Jayron Hosley
CB VA Tech
Hosley had 9 picks as a sophomore, and followed that up with a great junior season too. He may not be there when we pick in 2, but if he is, he's a steal. He's a physical corner who is explosive and agile in coverage. Having him in the rotation would be a huge upgrade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4yWAOqviFY
Remainder of Draft
Impossible to predict but I would use the rest of the draft to acquire youth at OL, ILB, S & CB.
I would re-sign Fred Davis, Fletcher & Laron Landry. Even with these moves, I think the Skins still finish around .500. But, we would have something real to build on going into the future. Chances are V Jackson wouldn't want to come here. If that is the case, Bowe may be a solution. But, we need a good receiver on the outside if we are going to run Kyle's offense.
Very good post. Agree on Barkley (I hope he comes out). Nicks would be nice upgrade and we do need OL. Is Jackson a locker room problem? I don't know but we do need a stud WR. Not sure about Hosley; just don't know much about him. But we do need an upgrade at CB. Need to also think about ILB and replacing Fletcher down the road. Landry is a concern because of his injuries so we might need to address that as well. I would not give up any draft picks in the 2012 draft.
THIS IS A FACT
This franchise's most important addition in the next 6 months will be a QB
ALL of the top QBs may be gone by the time we pick .......
Mike & Bruce will have to find a way to:
have a QB in place to start next season
Draft a QB that they can get ready to play ... SOON
OR .... one or both of them will not be here in February of 2013, at the latest
if you do not like Mike or what is going on here - just hope that these 2 continue to make bad decisions at QB
totally agree that we have issues with our secondary - the defensive issues will be easier to deal with than the offensive woes
This franchise's most important addition in the next 6 months will be a QB
ALL of the top QBs may be gone by the time we pick .......
Mike & Bruce will have to find a way to:
have a QB in place to start next season
Draft a QB that they can get ready to play ... SOON
OR .... one or both of them will not be here in February of 2013, at the latest

if you do not like Mike or what is going on here - just hope that these 2 continue to make bad decisions at QB
totally agree that we have issues with our secondary - the defensive issues will be easier to deal with than the offensive woes
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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SkinsJock wrote:THIS IS A FACT
This franchise's most important addition in the next 6 months will be a QB
ALL of the top QBs may be gone by the time we pick .......
Mike & Bruce will have to find a way to:
have a QB in place to start next season
Draft a QB that they can get ready to play ... SOON
OR .... one or both of them will not be here in February of 2013, at the latest![]()
if you do not like Mike or what is going on here - just hope that these 2 continue to make bad decisions at QB
totally agree that we have issues with our secondary - the defensive issues will be easier to deal with than the offensive woes
I think that if we take a QB with what looks to be a Top 5 pick, that player will start right away. The trend nowadays is to allow top QBs to play now. The days of sitting for 3 years are over, and guys like Big Ben, Flacco, Sanchez, Newton, Dalton, Matt Ryan, etc have proven that these guys can get it done. Hell, Newton & Dalton didn't even have full offseasons, and they are playing well enough to win games.
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I don't see Mike putting ANYONE in there until he's sure about the players around him
The drafted QB will not be made to start until he shows that he will not only be OK but also will be good
The offense here is not quite in place yet to handle a rookie QB
Hopefully we can get Barkley
he's closest to being NFL ready - I would be surprised if Mike puts him in until the line and the other players are ready
The drafted QB will not be made to start until he shows that he will not only be OK but also will be good
The offense here is not quite in place yet to handle a rookie QB
Hopefully we can get Barkley
he's closest to being NFL ready - I would be surprised if Mike puts him in until the line and the other players are ready
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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SkinsJock wrote:I don't see Mike putting ANYONE in there until he's sure about the players around him
The drafted QB will not be made to start until he shows that he will not only be OK but also will be good
The offense here is not quite in place yet to handle a rookie QB
Hopefully we can get Barkley
he's closest to being NFL ready - I would be surprised if Mike puts him in until the line and the other players are ready
Says who?

This will be year 3 of a 5 year contract. He can't afford to go with Grossman or Beck next year, with the franchise on the bench. The NFL doesn't work like that anymore. If we had any of the rookies drafted last year, i.e. Dalton, Newton, or Ponder, they'd be starting for us now. Mike doesn't have enough time to try and let a guy develop on the bench. Mike benched Plummer with a winning record. What makes you think he'll give Grossman or Beck a longer leash with Barkley on the bench?
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Nice list - I enjoyed it! I heard mike & mike mention on the radio the other day that Barkley was surprisingly short. Any truth? I see he is listed at 6-2.
I don't know man. We might not like it, but I still think Grossman will be the stop gap for at least part of the season next year. Lavar said the same thing on the radio yesterday.
I don't know if drafting a QB in the first round is going to work for us or not. But I completely understand why people want to use that pick so bad on a QB. We gotta try something!!
This will be year 3 of a 5 year contract. He can't afford to go with Grossman or Beck next year, with the franchise on the bench.
I don't know man. We might not like it, but I still think Grossman will be the stop gap for at least part of the season next year. Lavar said the same thing on the radio yesterday.
I don't know if drafting a QB in the first round is going to work for us or not. But I completely understand why people want to use that pick so bad on a QB. We gotta try something!!
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riggofan wrote:Nice list - I enjoyed it! I heard mike & mike mention on the radio the other day that Barkley was surprisingly short. Any truth? I see he is listed at 6-2.This will be year 3 of a 5 year contract. He can't afford to go with Grossman or Beck next year, with the franchise on the bench.
I don't know man. We might not like it, but I still think Grossman will be the stop gap for at least part of the season next year. Lavar said the same thing on the radio yesterday.
I don't know if drafting a QB in the first round is going to work for us or not. But I completely understand why people want to use that pick so bad on a QB. We gotta try something!!
I've heard Drew Brees is surprisingly short also.
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riggofan wrote:Nice list - I enjoyed it! I heard mike & mike mention on the radio the other day that Barkley was surprisingly short. Any truth? I see he is listed at 6-2.This will be year 3 of a 5 year contract. He can't afford to go with Grossman or Beck next year, with the franchise on the bench.
I don't know man. We might not like it, but I still think Grossman will be the stop gap for at least part of the season next year. Lavar said the same thing on the radio yesterday.
I don't know if drafting a QB in the first round is going to work for us or not. But I completely understand why people want to use that pick so bad on a QB. We gotta try something!!
I don't think anybody really knows how tall he actually is. We'll see at the combine I suppose. If he measures in the 6'1-6'2 range it shouldn't affect his draft stock, but it he comes in below that it could certainly have an impact.
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CanesSkins26 wrote:riggofan wrote:Nice list - I enjoyed it! I heard mike & mike mention on the radio the other day that Barkley was surprisingly short. Any truth? I see he is listed at 6-2.This will be year 3 of a 5 year contract. He can't afford to go with Grossman or Beck next year, with the franchise on the bench.
I don't know man. We might not like it, but I still think Grossman will be the stop gap for at least part of the season next year. Lavar said the same thing on the radio yesterday.
I don't know if drafting a QB in the first round is going to work for us or not. But I completely understand why people want to use that pick so bad on a QB. We gotta try something!!
I don't think anybody really knows how tall he actually is. We'll see at the combine I suppose. If he measures in the 6'1-6'2 range it shouldn't affect his draft stock, but it he comes in below that it could certainly have an impact.
Kevin Sheean on Sportstalk 980 said that he looks shorter in person as well. But, that doesn't bother me at all. His performance on the field matters more to me. As the other poster said, Drew Brees isn't tall either. Neither is Aaron Rodgers. Besides, I don't think our current QBs are towering figures either.
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The Hogster wrote:SkinsJock wrote:I don't see Mike putting ANYONE in there until he's sure about the players around him
The drafted QB will not be made to start until he shows that he will not only be OK but also will be good
The offense here is not quite in place yet to handle a rookie QB
Hopefully we can get Barkley
he's closest to being NFL ready - I would be surprised if Mike puts him in until the line and the other players are ready
Says who?
This will be year 3 of a 5 year contract. He can't afford to go with Grossman or Beck next year, with the franchise on the bench. The NFL doesn't work like that anymore. If we had any of the rookies drafted last year, i.e. Dalton, Newton, or Ponder, they'd be starting for us now. Mike doesn't have enough time to try and let a guy develop on the bench. Mike benched Plummer with a winning record. What makes you think he'll give Grossman or Beck a longer leash with Barkley on the bench?
maybe you legal types are a little sloooow - Mike's NOT starting a rookie QB here next season in the first few games
Grossman or Beck will be lucky to be here as waterboys

Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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SkinsJock wrote:The Hogster wrote:SkinsJock wrote:I don't see Mike putting ANYONE in there until he's sure about the players around him
The drafted QB will not be made to start until he shows that he will not only be OK but also will be good
The offense here is not quite in place yet to handle a rookie QB
Hopefully we can get Barkley
he's closest to being NFL ready - I would be surprised if Mike puts him in until the line and the other players are ready
Says who?
This will be year 3 of a 5 year contract. He can't afford to go with Grossman or Beck next year, with the franchise on the bench. The NFL doesn't work like that anymore. If we had any of the rookies drafted last year, i.e. Dalton, Newton, or Ponder, they'd be starting for us now. Mike doesn't have enough time to try and let a guy develop on the bench. Mike benched Plummer with a winning record. What makes you think he'll give Grossman or Beck a longer leash with Barkley on the bench?
maybe you legal types are a little sloooow - Mike's NOT starting a rookie QB here next season in the first few games
Grossman or Beck will be lucky to be here as waterboys
Says who? So, you're saying that we will let both Beck and Grossman go, and start some other Free Agent even with a guy like Matt Barkley on the bench??
Umkay. Great. If anything, Grossman is here next year until the rookie plays. But, to think we will have some other guy in as a stopgap is a stretch. Have you even seen the FA list for next year?? Any on that list has experience in this system?
I'll tell you. Some guy named Drew Brees--he's pretty good, but I think he's gonna get a new deal dont you think. Then there's Matt Flynn from Green Bay. Matt Flynn may be an upgrade over our QB situation, but he'd be coming in learning this offense on the fly.
Nobody can predict trades. Maybe they trade for a guy like Leinart, or TJ Yates. I doubt it though. I'm going with Matt Barkley & Grossman or Beck as the guys that are here.
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The Hogster wrote:SkinsJock wrote:The Hogster wrote:SkinsJock wrote:I don't see Mike putting ANYONE in there until he's sure about the players around him
The drafted QB will not be made to start until he shows that he will not only be OK but also will be good
The offense here is not quite in place yet to handle a rookie QB
Hopefully we can get Barkley
he's closest to being NFL ready - I would be surprised if Mike puts him in until the line and the other players are ready
Says who?
This will be year 3 of a 5 year contract. He can't afford to go with Grossman or Beck next year, with the franchise on the bench. The NFL doesn't work like that anymore. If we had any of the rookies drafted last year, i.e. Dalton, Newton, or Ponder, they'd be starting for us now. Mike doesn't have enough time to try and let a guy develop on the bench. Mike benched Plummer with a winning record. What makes you think he'll give Grossman or Beck a longer leash with Barkley on the bench?
maybe you legal types are a little sloooow - Mike's NOT starting a rookie QB here next season in the first few games
Grossman or Beck will be lucky to be here as waterboys
Says who? So, you're saying that we will let both Beck and Grossman go, and start some other Free Agent even with a guy like Matt Barkley on the bench??
Umkay. Great. If anything, Grossman is here next year until the rookie plays. But, to think we will have some other guy in as a stopgap is a stretch. Have you even seen the FA list for next year?? Any on that list has experience in this system?
I'll tell you. Some guy named Drew Brees--he's pretty good, but I think he's gonna get a new deal dont you think. Then there's Matt Flynn from Green Bay. Matt Flynn may be an upgrade over our QB situation, but he'd be coming in learning this offense on the fly.
Nobody can predict trades. Maybe they trade for a guy like Leinart, or TJ Yates. I doubt it though. I'm going with Matt Barkley & Grossman or Beck as the guys that are here.
The number 1 guy on the free agent list next year will probably be Jason Campbell. Shanahan has already let him go once.
Campbell may be able to help somebody but he certainly cannot help here
this guy has a very limited skill set for playing QB and is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, by any stretch
this guy has a very limited skill set for playing QB and is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, by any stretch
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
SORRY Hogster - you're making stuff up .... again
We are going to find a FA QB to start - Grossman will be here as insurance + to help both the FA & the rookie get ready

We are going to find a FA QB to start - Grossman will be here as insurance + to help both the FA & the rookie get ready
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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GoSkins wrote:SkinsJock wrote:SORRY Hogster - you're making stuff up .... again![]()
We are going to find a FA QB to start - Grossman will be here as insurance + to help both the FA & the rookie get ready
And what FA will that be? He must know our system and be productive from Day 1.
Yeah that makes absolutely no sense to me. What quality FA wants to come here and learn a new system to play a few games until our first round QB starts? Do you really want to spend valuable practice time and reps on this FA that you could be giving your new first round QB??
I understand people don't like Grossman, but you gotta be realistic that he or even Beck make the most sense in this role.
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ArlingtonSkinsFan wrote:riggofan wrote:Nice list - I enjoyed it! I heard mike & mike mention on the radio the other day that Barkley was surprisingly short. Any truth? I see he is listed at 6-2.This will be year 3 of a 5 year contract. He can't afford to go with Grossman or Beck next year, with the franchise on the bench.
I don't know man. We might not like it, but I still think Grossman will be the stop gap for at least part of the season next year. Lavar said the same thing on the radio yesterday.
I don't know if drafting a QB in the first round is going to work for us or not. But I completely understand why people want to use that pick so bad on a QB. We gotta try something!!
I've heard Drew Brees is surprisingly short also.
So is Rex Grossman! hah. The only reason I asked was because mike & mike made it sound like they thought there was no way Barkley was really 6'2".
We look like we are NOT getting Luck or Barkley - none of the other QBs is going to be able to play QB very well for quite a while
Mike & Bruce will NOT start next season with Grossman and Beck as their top QBs
Mike & Bruce have to make changes and improvements to our offense AND having the same guys at QB is NOT getting that done
Lavar does not know squat about this offense and what is needed here
Mike & Bruce will NOT start next season with Grossman and Beck as their top QBs
Mike & Bruce have to make changes and improvements to our offense AND having the same guys at QB is NOT getting that done
Lavar does not know squat about this offense and what is needed here
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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SkinsJock wrote:We look like we are NOT getting Luck or Barkley - none of the other QBs is going to be able to play QB very well for quite a while
They said the same thing about Cam. Fact of the matter is, it's up to the individual and hopefully whoever we grab will be ready. We've seen guys that the scouts/fans said were "ready" and they looked terrible.
The road to the number 1 pick gaining speed!